If Trump Is REALLY Interested In Combating Fraud, Then He Needs To Go After The Thousands Of Veterans Who Are Filing Fraudulent Claims With The VA

20 years of war will do that.
War didn't cause this. --

About 556,000 veterans receive disability benefits for eczema, 332,000 for hemorrhoids, 110,000 for benign skin growths, 81,000 for acne and 74,000 for varicose veins, the most recently available figures from VA show. Individual payouts for such mundane conditions vary, but collectively they cost billions of dollars a year.
 
If Americans take away anything from this thread it is that democrats hate American soldiers and want to cut their benefits.

Democrats = traitors
 
Hilarious case of fraud. --

In Nebraska, agents discovered that Steven M. Woodall, a veteran who served in the active-duty Army and National Guard in the 1980s and early 1990s, had a 100 percent disability rating for blindness even though state records showed he had an “unrestricted” driver’s license.

There was more. Police logs from his hometown of South Sioux City showed that he had reported witnessing crimes with his own eyes, including acts of burglary and trespassing. He also had obtained a permit to carry a concealed handgun and passed a marksmanship test at a shooting

range.
 
This is the REAL fraud that Trump needs to do something about.....not the nonsense that he and other Republicans have complained about with Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.,

Thousands of military veterans have been filing fraudulent VA claims for years.....and 99.99% of them get away with it. These veterans get away with it because The Department Of Veteran Affairs does not have enough investigators to combat this disability fraud.

In some cases, military veterans have gotten hundreds of thousands of dollars, some over $1 million dollars, in disability payments from the VA over several decades.

From the Washington Post. --

VA’s $193 billion disability program — one of the biggest line items in the federal budget — has become a rich target for fraudsters, according to a Washington Post investigation. Each year, the agency’s inspector general opens dozens of criminal cases into veterans like Kilpatrick who are suspected of faking injuries or illnesses for money.

But former officials said they suspect those cases represent only a fraction of the fraud that occurs. They said VA has failed to reckon with the full scope of disability fraud — as seen in videos The Post obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the government — and allowed it to become entrenched and endemic at the expense of veterans with legitimate needs.


“The system is vulnerable to manipulation,” said Michael Missal, who served as VA’s inspector general for nearly nine years until January, when President Donald Trump fired him and 16 other independent federal watchdogs. “There’s a high risk that people can either lie about their condition or exaggerate their condition.”


Here is one of the worst cases of disability fraud that I read about. This guy claimed to be paralyzed, but he wasn't. He got away with it for 3 years. --

During visits to Atlanta VA Medical Center, the Iraq War veteran arrived in a wheelchair, claiming multiple sclerosis had paralyzed his arms and legs. By the time he turned 35, the onetime athlete said he could barely move from the neck down, leaving him dependent on others to eat, dress and bathe, according to court records.

Obligated to help a former soldier in need, the Department of Veterans Affairs began paying Kilpatrick $7,900 a month in tax-free disability benefits in 2015, the records show. The federal government also gave him $20,000 for a specially equipped Jeep Cherokee to make it easier for his wife to take him to medical appointments.

The hoax lasted for three years and might have continued indefinitely, if not for a whistleblower who sent VA proof that Kilpatrick was lying: videos of the Army veteran backflipping on a trampoline, prancing around a sports field like a ballerina and swan diving into a playground ball pit.



Here is another egregious case of disability fraud. This guy claimed to be blind, but he wasn't. He got away with it for years. --

VA raised Hoover’s disability rating to 100 percent and declared him permanently unable to work, which boosted his compensation to more than $3,800 a month. The government also enrolled him in blindness rehabilitation courses, training him how to navigate obstacles with a long white cane.

But Hoover had faster ways to get around. In January 2012 — the same month that VA classified him as completely disabled for blindness — he walked into the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to renew his driver’s license, records show.

He passed the eye test with 20/40 vision while wearing corrective lenses. Unaware that VA considered Hoover blind, the state of Florida gave him a new license plus perks in gratitude for his military service, including free disabled veteran plates for his vehicle.


From that point forward, according to the documents, Hoover claimed he was blind when he visited VA for medical appointments. Meanwhile, he cashed his disability checks and bought expensive toys, including an 11-foot boat, a three-wheeled motorcycle and a motorized canoe. Then he bragged on Facebook about how much fun he was having.


A Post review of 70 fraud prosecutions since 2017 shows VA regularly falls victim to half-baked schemes.

Is this what youre on about?
 
It doesn't take much to get Veterans (like myself) filled with righteous indignation over allegations of VA. fraud but it happens and we need to deal with it rationally.
 
It doesn't take much to get Veterans (like myself) filled with righteous indignation over allegations of VA. fraud but it happens and we need to deal with it rationally.
Then you should be upset with Trump for trying to cut VA staffing.

If anything, Trump needs to increase the number of VA investigators in order to arrest veterans filing these fraudulent claims.
 
LMAO Dems have finally come up with a winning strategy, attack veterans and wounded warriors. Let us know how that works out Dems.

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Of course there is fraud in the system. All government systems, especially those initiated and administered by Democrats, are subject to fraud and abuse and there will be people who exploit them for personal gain.

But the number of hoops a veteran has to jump through to get benefits are pretty significant. Sometimes it requires legal intervention for a person legally entitled to them to get those benefits.

I have a LOT of veterans in my family and among my friends and not a single one of them drawing disability does not qualify for that benefit. That makes me believe that fraud and abuse in the VA exists, but is not as widespread as the OP would suggest.

The answer of course is for whistle blowers to report those who are obviously cheating the system. That would take care of almost all of any problem that exists.
 
What do you mean? Maybe you should try reading the entire article.

I read a bunch of it. Its a wordy article that never gets to the point. I see a lot of talk about all of the different types of claims being made, but no number telling me how many fraud cases per year they find.
 
I read a bunch of it. Its a wordy article that never gets to the point. I see a lot of talk about all of the different types of claims being made, but no number telling me how many fraud cases per year they find.
It's obvious the fraud is rampant. For some reason, you just don't want to see it.

I guess you rather whine about brown people and illegal immigrants committing Medicaid or Social Security fraud. However, nothing that they are doing compares to this VA fraud being committed by military veterans.
 
It's obvious the fraud is rampant. For some reason, you just don't want to see it.

I guess you rather whine about brown people and illegal immigrants committing Medicaid or Social Security fraud. However, nothing that they are doing compares to this VA fraud being committed by military veterans.
It is not obvious
 
Thousands of military veterans have been filing fraudulent VA claims for years.....and 99.99% of them get away with it. These veterans get away with it because The Department Of Veteran Affairs does not have enough investigators to combat this disability fraud.
If you knew this why did you keep it a secret? rhetorical question of course as it answers itself.
 
This is the REAL fraud that Trump needs to do something about.....not the nonsense that he and other Republicans have complained about with Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.,

Thousands of military veterans have been filing fraudulent VA claims for years.....and 99.99% of them get away with it. These veterans get away with it because The Department Of Veteran Affairs does not have enough investigators to combat this disability fraud.

In some cases, military veterans have gotten hundreds of thousands of dollars, some over $1 million dollars, in disability payments from the VA over several decades.

From the Washington Post. --

VA’s $193 billion disability program — one of the biggest line items in the federal budget — has become a rich target for fraudsters, according to a Washington Post investigation. Each year, the agency’s inspector general opens dozens of criminal cases into veterans like Kilpatrick who are suspected of faking injuries or illnesses for money.

But former officials said they suspect those cases represent only a fraction of the fraud that occurs. They said VA has failed to reckon with the full scope of disability fraud — as seen in videos The Post obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the government — and allowed it to become entrenched and endemic at the expense of veterans with legitimate needs.


“The system is vulnerable to manipulation,” said Michael Missal, who served as VA’s inspector general for nearly nine years until January, when President Donald Trump fired him and 16 other independent federal watchdogs. “There’s a high risk that people can either lie about their condition or exaggerate their condition.”


Here is one of the worst cases of disability fraud that I read about. This guy claimed to be paralyzed, but he wasn't. He got away with it for 3 years. --

During visits to Atlanta VA Medical Center, the Iraq War veteran arrived in a wheelchair, claiming multiple sclerosis had paralyzed his arms and legs. By the time he turned 35, the onetime athlete said he could barely move from the neck down, leaving him dependent on others to eat, dress and bathe, according to court records.

Obligated to help a former soldier in need, the Department of Veterans Affairs began paying Kilpatrick $7,900 a month in tax-free disability benefits in 2015, the records show. The federal government also gave him $20,000 for a specially equipped Jeep Cherokee to make it easier for his wife to take him to medical appointments.

The hoax lasted for three years and might have continued indefinitely, if not for a whistleblower who sent VA proof that Kilpatrick was lying: videos of the Army veteran backflipping on a trampoline, prancing around a sports field like a ballerina and swan diving into a playground ball pit.



Here is another egregious case of disability fraud. This guy claimed to be blind, but he wasn't. He got away with it for years. --

VA raised Hoover’s disability rating to 100 percent and declared him permanently unable to work, which boosted his compensation to more than $3,800 a month. The government also enrolled him in blindness rehabilitation courses, training him how to navigate obstacles with a long white cane.

But Hoover had faster ways to get around. In January 2012 — the same month that VA classified him as completely disabled for blindness — he walked into the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to renew his driver’s license, records show.

He passed the eye test with 20/40 vision while wearing corrective lenses. Unaware that VA considered Hoover blind, the state of Florida gave him a new license plus perks in gratitude for his military service, including free disabled veteran plates for his vehicle.


From that point forward, according to the documents, Hoover claimed he was blind when he visited VA for medical appointments. Meanwhile, he cashed his disability checks and bought expensive toys, including an 11-foot boat, a three-wheeled motorcycle and a motorized canoe. Then he bragged on Facebook about how much fun he was having.

Idiot ^^^
 
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This is the REAL fraud that Trump needs to do something about.....not the nonsense that he and other Republicans have complained about with Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.,

Thousands of military veterans have been filing fraudulent VA claims for years.....and 99.99% of them get away with it. These veterans get away with it because The Department Of Veteran Affairs does not have enough investigators to combat this disability fraud.

In some cases, military veterans have gotten hundreds of thousands of dollars, some over $1 million dollars, in disability payments from the VA over several decades.

From the Washington Post. --

VA’s $193 billion disability program — one of the biggest line items in the federal budget — has become a rich target for fraudsters, according to a Washington Post investigation. Each year, the agency’s inspector general opens dozens of criminal cases into veterans like Kilpatrick who are suspected of faking injuries or illnesses for money.

But former officials said they suspect those cases represent only a fraction of the fraud that occurs. They said VA has failed to reckon with the full scope of disability fraud — as seen in videos The Post obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the government — and allowed it to become entrenched and endemic at the expense of veterans with legitimate needs.


“The system is vulnerable to manipulation,” said Michael Missal, who served as VA’s inspector general for nearly nine years until January, when President Donald Trump fired him and 16 other independent federal watchdogs. “There’s a high risk that people can either lie about their condition or exaggerate their condition.”


Here is one of the worst cases of disability fraud that I read about. This guy claimed to be paralyzed, but he wasn't. He got away with it for 3 years. --

During visits to Atlanta VA Medical Center, the Iraq War veteran arrived in a wheelchair, claiming multiple sclerosis had paralyzed his arms and legs. By the time he turned 35, the onetime athlete said he could barely move from the neck down, leaving him dependent on others to eat, dress and bathe, according to court records.

Obligated to help a former soldier in need, the Department of Veterans Affairs began paying Kilpatrick $7,900 a month in tax-free disability benefits in 2015, the records show. The federal government also gave him $20,000 for a specially equipped Jeep Cherokee to make it easier for his wife to take him to medical appointments.

The hoax lasted for three years and might have continued indefinitely, if not for a whistleblower who sent VA proof that Kilpatrick was lying: videos of the Army veteran backflipping on a trampoline, prancing around a sports field like a ballerina and swan diving into a playground ball pit.



Here is another egregious case of disability fraud. This guy claimed to be blind, but he wasn't. He got away with it for years. --

VA raised Hoover’s disability rating to 100 percent and declared him permanently unable to work, which boosted his compensation to more than $3,800 a month. The government also enrolled him in blindness rehabilitation courses, training him how to navigate obstacles with a long white cane.

But Hoover had faster ways to get around. In January 2012 — the same month that VA classified him as completely disabled for blindness — he walked into the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to renew his driver’s license, records show.

He passed the eye test with 20/40 vision while wearing corrective lenses. Unaware that VA considered Hoover blind, the state of Florida gave him a new license plus perks in gratitude for his military service, including free disabled veteran plates for his vehicle.


From that point forward, according to the documents, Hoover claimed he was blind when he visited VA for medical appointments. Meanwhile, he cashed his disability checks and bought expensive toys, including an 11-foot boat, a three-wheeled motorcycle and a motorized canoe. Then he bragged on Facebook about how much fun he was having.

There will always be fraud in federal programs. When dishonest people here how slow and incompetent the people who process claims are they know that those in that agency who are responsible for fraud prevention will be as bad if not worse, so they take advantage.

But why would you want Trump only to go after VA fraud and not fraud in other federal programs?
 
There will always be fraud in federal programs. When dishonest people here how slow and incompetent the people who process claims are they know that those in that agency who are responsible for fraud prevention will be as bad if not worse, so they take advantage.

But why would you want Trump only to go after VA fraud and not fraud in other federal programs?
Because this fraud is obviously the worst. There are thousands of veterans faking blindness and paralysis, for ****'s safe. It has cost the VA billions of dollars.

Veterans are also receiving a fortune for minor maladies. Just read this --

The most-claimed disability by far is tinnitus, or ringing in the ears, another condition that is difficult to confirm with certainty. Last year, nearly 3.3 million veterans — more than half of those on disability — received benefits for it. By itself, tinnitus carries a 10 percent rating, which pays $176 a month, more with dependents.

Many veterans legitimately suffer from hearing loss; repeated exposure to gunfire and loud noises comes with the territory in the armed forces.

Yet, since 2001, the number of approved tinnitus claims has increased more than 20-fold, up from 162,000 cases. The spike has in part been driven by a thriving industry of paid consultants, sometimes called claims sharks. Many advertise their services in flashy online videos, sharing tips to inflate payouts for conditions that are difficult to disprove.
 

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