If the Dems win in Georgia today

But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.
 
But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.

The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.
 
What does it mean? Well, for starters it means the seats in the Senate would be split 50-50 and VP Kamala Harris would cast the deciding vote. But what it really means is that the democrats could change our gov't forever if they have the votes to abolish the filibuster, which as you no doubt know means the majority party in the Senate could pass any bill with only a simple majority. The Senate currently requires 60 votes to stop the debate on a given bill, and you can't vote on any bill until that vote (called cloture) passes.

There is a reason for that requirement. The 60 votes for cloture is there to prevent what is called the "tyranny of the majority". It was feared that the minority party would have no say at all in the Senate, as it currently doesn't in the House. They can squawk all they want but they cannot do anything of substance in the House. Not so in the Senate, up to now at least; these days there is no appetite in either party to cooperate and compromise, it' all obstruction to politically hurt the majority and hopefully get them voted out of office in the next election. And it works too at least sometimes. Hence, no working together on just about anything.

There are 2 Senate seats up for grabs today; if the GOP takes one or both of them then the controversy is over and the filibuster lives for at least 2 more years. But if the democrats take both seats, well..

I believe that if the democrats take both seats they will abolish the filibuster in some way that tries to avoid looking like a power grab but fools no one. The intense pressure from their base will be too hard to ignore IMHO. And if that happens then compromise and cooperation will forever be gone. When one side does that, the other side will follow suit when they take over, and they eventually will. Maybe that will spur the rise of a 3rd political party that would require some kind of coalition; I think that would be a good thing with or without the filibuster. Otherwise, it's a one-party gov't if you can manage to control everything.

Change the senate rules.....like McConnel did for Supreme Court nominees?
 
But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.

The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.
81M did.
 
The democrats will go full insane. That's what people who only believe in power and nothing else always do.
 
But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.

The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.
81M did.

Less the fraudulent votes and ballot box stuffing. :itsok:
 
But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.

The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.
81M did.

Less the fraudulent votes and ballot box stuffing. :itsok:

Sounds like there should be some arrests then.

Where are they?
 
But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.

The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.
81M did.

Less the fraudulent votes and ballot box stuffing. :itsok:

What fraudulent votes?

Remember, everyone from the CISA to the DOJ to the State election officials to international observers all confirm an election void of large scale fraud.
 
But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.

The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.
81M did.

Less the fraudulent votes and ballot box stuffing. :itsok:

Sounds like there should be some arrests then.

Where are they?

In their conspiracy addled imaginations?
 
lol Democrats elected a 'Reverend' in Georgia, after years of ranting about the evil Christians and 'theocracy', their ridiculous interpretations of the Establishment Clause, etc..

Where are the threads where left wingers cry and moan about that?
 
Change the senate rules.....like McConnel did for Supreme Court nominees?
Yes, the same as Harry Reid did for cabinet nominations and federal judge positions. You guys opened Pandora's box, don't be bitching cuz the other side followed your lead. The same as Pelosi is doing now in the House. Don't be pointing fingers, your side does not have the high moral ground.
 
Change the senate rules.....like McConnel did for Supreme Court nominees?
Yes, the same as Harry Reid did for cabinet nominations and federal judge positions. You guys opened Pandora's box, don't be bitching cuz the other side followed your lead. The same as Pelosi is doing now in the House. Don't be pointing fingers, your side does not have the high moral ground.

Then Dems will be continuing in a tradition that Republicans have been eager participants in.

You reap what you sow.
 
Change the senate rules.....like McConnel did for Supreme Court nominees?
Yes, the same as Harry Reid did for cabinet nominations and federal judge positions. You guys opened Pandora's box, don't be bitching cuz the other side followed your lead. The same as Pelosi is doing now in the House. Don't be pointing fingers, your side does not have the high moral ground.

Then Dems will be continuing in a tradition that Republicans have been eager participants in.

You reap what you sow.

So will you. I have to laugh, you guys started it and now you're bitching cuz we followed suit. Eff you.
 
The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.

How is the GOP rigging elections? Far as I can tell, there's only one party who stands accused or rigging elections for some time now and it ain't the GOP.

If you want an example of GOP rigging the best is the grass roots tea party movement that gave those spineless Republicans in congress back control of congress. What did the spineless Republicans do? They took a giant crap on the tea party representatives, mocking them, threatening them. With control of congress the RINO's went right back to the status quo with open contempt for the tea party reps who delivered the freaking win to them.

Now GOP election rigging is via gerrymandering first, once they have a district that's guaranteed to vote Republican the GOP hand picks the candidate who will occupy that seat. That voters elect the candidate is a farce. And the GOP has bought and paid for that representative so when they arrive in Washington they are there to do the GOP's bidding not vote to represent their constituents.
 
The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.

How is the GOP rigging elections? Far as I can tell, there's only one party who stands accused or rigging elections for some time now and it ain't the GOP.

If you want an example of GOP rigging the best is the grass roots tea party movement that gave those spineless Republicans in congress back control of congress. What did the spineless Republicans do? They took a giant crap on the tea party representatives, mocking them, threatening them. With control of congress the RINO's went right back to the status quo with open contempt for the tea party reps who delivered the freaking win to them.

Now GOP election rigging is via gerrymandering first, once they have a district that's guaranteed to vote Republican the GOP hand picks the candidate who will occupy that seat. That voters elect the candidate is a farce. And the GOP has bought and paid for that representative so when they arrive in Washington they are there to do the GOP's bidding not vote to represent their constituents.

You are entitled to your opinion, ridiculous though it is. If you think anything you said amounts to election rigging then you are an ideological fool.
 
But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.

The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.
Voters always matter in an election because their voting decisions determine who will lead the nation. Does party, mainstream media, Facebook, Twitter, USMB, local news outlets, TV adds, talk radio etc influence voters? Of course it does but voters make their decision the old fashion way. They listen to their spouse, their minister, their next door neighbor. They consider the candidates position on abortion, business, healthcare, government spending, basketball, aliens, space travel, global warming, and the price of milk. And of course the personal stuff such as the candidates wife, how he smiles and frowns and thousand of other factors that have nothing to do with the ability to lead the nation.
 
But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.

The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.
Voters always matter in an election because their voting decisions determine who will lead the nation. Does party, mainstream media, Facebook, Twitter, USMB, local news outlets, TV adds, talk radio etc influence voters? Of course it does but voters make their decision the old fashion way. They listen to their spouse, their minister, their next door neighbor. They consider the candidates position on abortion, business, healthcare, government spending, basketball, aliens, space travel, global warming, and the price of milk. And of course the personal stuff such as the candidates wife, how he smiles and frowns and thousand of other factors that have nothing to do with the ability to lead the nation.






Not any more. The progressive left has now completely corrupted the voting process. There is no need to vote in a national election ever again.
 
But I think you guys may lose Romney and he becomes an Independent.

Romney is a traitor of the first order.
Which is something that needs to happen in both parties. We send people to Washington to represent us, not the party.






Those days are long over. The Party apparatchiks took over the voting process decades ago. That's why we have only had the choice of the lesser of two evils.

That's all the political parties would give us. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the political class controls the country and they just successfully eliminated voting at the national level.

Look for a unending stream of idiots to run this country into the dirt in short order.

The political parties have been RIGGING elections for quite some time now, voters really no longer matter.
Voters always matter in an election because their voting decisions determine who will lead the nation. Does party, mainstream media, Facebook, Twitter, USMB, local news outlets, TV adds, talk radio etc influence voters? Of course it does but voters make their decision the old fashion way. They listen to their spouse, their minister, their next door neighbor. They consider the candidates position on abortion, business, healthcare, government spending, basketball, aliens, space travel, global warming, and the price of milk. And of course the personal stuff such as the candidates wife, how he smiles and frowns and thousand of other factors that have nothing to do with the ability to lead the nation.






Not any more. The progressive left has now completely corrupted the voting process. There is no need to vote in a national election ever again.
:cuckoo:
 

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