Sun Devil 92
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Whether they've bought in or not is still not clear to me.
Many, it seems on both sides, are voting against the other side.
I just have to wonder if many on the left and right are not just fed up with the stupidity of our government on both sides.
I noticed you were defending Harry Reid earlier. Unfortunately, based on what I hear, many on both sides find him to be the poster boy of politicians they'd love to see go away. Not because he's a democrat (there are plenty in the GOP that should go too), but because he really does create a sense of "untrustworthiness" in so many (again both left and right).
I know many conservatives who hate the whole right wing bullbag that flys around each election. At the same time they see no value in the other side either. It seems they tend to support those they think will do the least damage. This is not the majority of conservatives I know...just the thoughtful ones.
I, personally, really miss the Sam Nunn's of the world.
Defending Harry Reid? Oh you mean proving Harry DIDN'T admit he lied about the Moocher Romney?
My problem with conservatives and the ideology they support, it has NEVER worked as promised and they are always on the wrong side of issues.
I miss HONEST conservatives like Goldwater. Today's conservatives just follow Reagan as a (Faux) savior and continue his lying ways!
My fav quote on the problem with Gov't:
The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.
P. J. O'Rourke
This is where you take the hit.
You see, it isn't about whether he admitted lying (he never did from what I can tell), because he didn't have to.
Most of my liberal friends wish Harry would have a heart attack. He's been a boat anchor on the image of the senate.
This what you say and there is how you say it.
Just to be clear....there are other senate dems who are the same in my estimation and a host of republicans.
While I don't agree with Bernie Sanders for the most part....I like the way he conducts himself.
I really do miss Sam Nunn.
Take the hit? For showing Harry DIDN'T admit he lied as the right winger posited? Sorry. Fail
Harry has done a great job of keeping the far right extremists from rolling over the more moderate (than Harry) Obama. I'm not surprised you don't get it though
Yes, I miss honest conservatives like Goldwater too, unfortunately we have Reagan as being a "moderate" today in the GOP that's how far right the GOP has gone the past 20+ years!
Don't disagree with you on how far things have gone to the right in the past 20 years.
Harry has done a great job of giving the left (and liberalism) a bad name. I know you get it, but your are just a stormtrooper.
Harry a liberal??? lol
Oh I guess if we go by Rushblo's or crazy people like the ones supporting the Tea Baggers, sure. Most normal Americans see him as a moderate conservative from Nevada, not a liberal known area!
Next you'll tell me Obama is a Marxist, lol
Why do you make stuff up ?
I didn't say Harry was a liberal. He is left of center.
If you can put down your arrogant pre-conceptions and try to digest these simple statements it might be helpful.
I don't think Harry is a liberal. I think Harry is an opportunist.
I said, Harry is giving the left (and liberalism....associated with being left...even though that is incorrect) a bad name.
Harry is not popular. Many in his party wish he'd go away.
If I wanted to see him go away, it is not because of his politics (I don't think Harry has any other that what takes care of Harry)...it is because our federal government is loaded with rancor and he has been a prime promoter of it.
The right is no better...but there is no one person as visible (in the media) as Harry.
It's not about Harry...it's about the institution.