Zone1 If Homosexuality Is A Sin, Then Where Does It Come From?

[Hafar1014]

See: 7 deadly sins

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Animals dont have lust their reproduction is 100% biological.

 

[Hafar1014]

Well, if you say that people are only gay because they are inspired by other gay people, then when did the first gay person come from? So, that does not make sense

But today that it is not also culturally mediated, since all men in ancient Sparta participated in gay sex, also seems wrong since they all could not have had the 'gay gene'

The answer I think is somewhere in between.

As for myself, I believe man is a fallen creature, and as such, is subject to dysfunction in all aspects of their existence, whether it be spiritual dysfunction or emotional or physical or sexual.

We are just all screwed up is all.

All men didnt have gay sex in Greece. They didnt have word for it and called all sexuality eros. They just didnt care

 

[ChristisKing]

They would not just shoot him, they would still find a way to put him on a cross, no doubt.

I just had this scene flash into my head of "Teacher, what is a woman?" and Jesus crying out "Security!! Somebody please get him out of here!!"

I don’t have a Bible.

Surprise, surprise.

Animals dont have lust their reproduction is 100% biological.

I don't know what animals have to do with it other than the fact don't gay animals exist?

 

[Hafar1014]

Humans are born sinners

Thats a belief that psychology would define as depression. Its also has no basis in the bible sin there is no original sin

 

[Mac-7]

Imagine if the Bible was written today. He would probably get a variety of different responses then.

Lib editors at Simon & Schuster would insist on rewriting Adam and Eve to Adam and Steve

 

[ChristisKing]

And yes I do believe that Jesus has a sense of humor.

 

[Hafar1014]

I just had this scene flash into my head of "Teacher, what is a woman?" and Jesus crying out "Security!! Somebody please get him out of here!!"


Surprise, surprise.



I don't know what animals have to do with it other than the fact don't gay animals exist?

No gay animals dont exist but they do make mistakes.

 

[dudmuck]

I used to think that people could just choose to be gay, so I was shaking my head about why gay Christians exist. However, I recently had my mind changed and learned that people can be devout Christians and still be gay and just not act upon it so my question is why are people born gay if it's a sin? Where does homosexuality come from if God creates everybody?

this could probably be best understood from Augustine of Hippo --> https://qspirit.net/augustine-hippo-queer-saint/

which can help explain how the Roman Catholics split off and became what they are, which is not from this, but instead is from rational reasoning. But this bisexuality is often overlooked as another component.

 

[BothWings]

I've written the following account a number of times on this board, when this topic comes up. I should keep it handy somewhere as a text that I can cut and paste when the need arises.

I have a friend who is a senior who worked for over 30 years as an administrator at state juvenile mental health facilities and detention centers. Early in her career the inmates and/or patients were segregated by gender. As a result many of the first sexual experiences of these young people were homosexual. Eventually the facilities became desegregated, and males and females were starting to be housed together. The majority of the ones that had already had their sexual awakening with the same sex and had multiple experiences thereof, retained those preferences even after having the opposite sex available and willing. She said it was very obvious this was learned behavior. No I'm not going to say that it's impossible that maybe some people are born with homosexual tendencies already, but in many people the behavior is definitely learned.

 

[Mac-7]

Thats a belief that psychology would define as depression. Its also has no basis in the bible sin there is no original sin

We are all born sinners

 

[ChristisKing]

No gay animals dont exist but they do make mistakes.

Time to relive my childhood. This is way back when Miley was normal.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

But today that it is not also culturally mediated, since all men in ancient Sparta participated in gay sex, also seems wrong since they all could not have had the 'gay gene'

Did you see the dinner party scene from “The Birdcage”, in which the soup bowls had pictures of naked Greek boys playing leapfrog?

 

[Hafar1014]

We are all born sinners

Only if youre a Christian with personality issues. Jews are not born sinners and we wrote Genesis. There is no original sin or fall of man. Its Gods moral teaching of man and trial for mans freedom.
Believing youre born in sin is a self destructive belief. Its also just plain dumb

 

[odanny]

I mean, I don't want this being shoved down my throat

I always wondered why the most vocal critics of homosexuals always use this phrase.

It doesn't take very long to figure out how these critics really feel, and what they really want.

 

[Hafar1014]

I always wondered why the most vocal critics of homosexuals always use this phrase.

It doesn't take very long to figure out how these critics really feel, and what they really want.

Dont heterosexuals do this too

 

[ChristisKing]

I always wondered why the most vocal critics of homosexuals always use this phrase.

It doesn't take very long to figure out how these critics really feel, and what they really want.

Do tell.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Out of the evil of men's hearts.....

 

[ChristisKing]

Out of the evil of men's hearts.....

Yeah, but not all gay people are evil. Gay conservatives exist you know.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Yeah, but not all gay people are evil. Gay conservatives exist you know.

Yeah so.......doesn't make it better

 

[ChristisKing]

Yeah so.......doesn't make it better

I didn't say that it did I was just saying that a lot of them are regular people unfortunately with sinful sexual desire.