If Democrats want to continue losing, they will continue listening to Republicans telling them what they should do.

[Man With A Plan]

Because I'm not a Democrat, nor have I ever been, nor could I ever be.

I told you, you wouldn't understand. But I tried.

I've heard you claim that a thousand times, Mac and still here you are arguing the liberal party line. Only now you've gone full Jake Tapper and decided that you like everything that the GOP likes...you just don't want Trump being in charge of it! Try harder, dude...you look foolish.

 

[Mac1958]

I've heard you claim that a thousand times, Mac and still here you are arguing the liberal party line. Only now you've gone full Jake Tapper and decided that you like everything that the GOP likes...you just don't want Trump being in charge of it! Try harder, dude...you look foolish.

So I go back to my first question: On which actual issues am I liberal?

There must be many. Right?

 

[rightwinger]

That is pretty much the government side of anything that are social agendas. A lot of it does not trickle down as much as when it started from the taxpayer's wallet. You guys turned hospitals and medicine into a business.

Insurance companies are just a middle man adding nothing to the healthcare system.
But they decide what healthcare you can receive, what you pay, how much you get in a catastrophe.
Insurance companies make a tremendous profit for their work.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Because I'm not a Democrat, nor have I ever been, nor could I ever be.

I told you, you wouldn't understand. But I tried.

So let me see if I understand you...
You accuse me of subjecting you to a "wall of words"? It was as long as it was because the list of things that you on the left are totally out of touch on is rather long.
Then you turn around and tell us that you're actually FOR all of the things that the far left wing of the Democrat Party is campaigning against but you just don't like the way that Trump is DOING those things because it's Trump? Simple question for you, Mac! Why didn't you do ALL of those things when Obama was in charge or when Biden was in charge?

Trust Mac, he’s actually a right leaning moderate…it is his typing fingers that are left as fuck.
I called Mac out on his lying bullshit for years…that’s why his free speech hating oppressive ass has me on ignore.

 

[dblack]

What about the independents, centrists and libertarians who would love to vote for someone besides Trump? Should Democrats listen to them?

 

[Mac1958]

What about the independents, centrists and libertarians who would love to vote for someone besides Trump? Should Democrats listen to them?

You would think.

But as long as the wings control the parties, their philosophy will always be "we weren't wingy ENOUGH".

 

[Greenbeard]

Of course we're not. You're putting people who didn't have healthcare before or were paying out of pocket on a plan where the Government pays for everything. That means more people getting more treatments. Let's be honest here...either the quality of care goes way down...or we're going to be spending huge amounts of money on this!

The official National Health Expenditures Projections put health care spending over the next six years (2026-2031) at $38.48 trillion. So if you're saying Medicare for All would cost $30T over that period, that would be . . . less.

 

[Hector12]

Countries with socialized medicine spend less per capita for health care than the United States and have healthier populations.

 

[dblack]

Countries with socialized medicine spend less per capita for health care than the United States and have healthier populations.

Doctor Trump will see you now ...
Bend over.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Countries with socialized medicine spend less per capita for health care than the United States and have healthier populations.

Fewer new meds, less modern equipment, rationing and long waits for care.

Yeah, I see why that would be cheaper.

 

[Hector12]

Fewer new meds, less modern equipment, rationing and long waits for care.

Yeah, I see why that would be cheaper.

How does the quality of the U.S. health system compare to other countries?​

Despite spending nearly twice as much per capita on healthcare compared to similarly large and wealthy nations, the United States has a lower life expectancy than peer nations and has seen worsening measures of health outcomes since the COVID-19 pandemic.

This chart collection combines various measures of quality of care in the United States and other large, high-income nations (based on gross domestic product and per capita GDP) to show how the U.S. stacks up against its peers and how that has changed over time.

Generally, the U.S. performs worse in long-term health outcomes measures (such as life expectancy), certain treatment outcomes (such as maternal mortality and congestive heart failure hospital admissions), some patient safety measures (such as obstetric trauma with instrument and medication or treatment errors), and patient experiences of not getting care due to cost.

How does the quality of the U.S. health system compare to other countries? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

Across a wide variety of measures of quality, the U.S. health system appears to perform worse than peer nations on more indicators than it does better. Across a wide variety of measures of quality, the U.S. health system appears to perform worse than peer nations on more indicators than it does...

www.healthsystemtracker.org

 

[Man With A Plan]

So I go back to my first question: On which actual issues am I liberal?

There must be many. Right?

None! Since the left is cratering suddenly you're a born again conservative! You've gone full Jake Tapper!

 

[Mac1958]

None! Since the left is cratering suddenly you're a born again conservative! You've gone full Jake Tapper!

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I've asked that same question dozens of times, and I never get an answer.

Okie dokie.

 

[whitehall]

Maybe if democrats and their minions in the media stopped playing the race card every time they get in trouble they might get some of the Country on board with their crazy agenda.

 

[Godboy]

What we are seeing here after the last election are white Democrats talking like right-wing nutjobs. They're repeating right-wing talking points about what Democrats need to do. Bernie Sanders is one of them. Republicans have used identity politics since at least the Civil Rights Act. But for some reason when Republicans whine and pretend to be poor, innocent, and oppressed, the media repeats it and follow that false narrative. In this video we will see Berne Sanders repeating right wing talking points and he gets busted by Roland Martin. The claim that the Democratic Party has done nothing for the working class is a lie. Nobody went too woke. Its all a lie, and if any Democrat continues with this, they should get voted out. America needs to face its race problem and do so now. If Democrats want to continue losing, they will continue listening to Republicans telling them what they should do.

Clown shoes Roland Martin? You listen to THAT buffoon?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I've asked that same question dozens of times, and I never get an answer.

Okie dokie.

My point, Mac...is that you suddenly appear to be "fluid" in your beliefs! You love all things conservative...but you still hate Trump because he's not nice to people? It's a classic "jail house conversion"! Everyone's turning on the left and praise be to Jesus...you're a convert!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What we are seeing here after the last election are white Democrats talking like right-wing nutjobs. They're repeating right-wing talking points about what Democrats need to do. Bernie Sanders is one of them. Republicans have used identity politics since at least the Civil Rights Act. But for some reason when Republicans whine and pretend to be poor, innocent, and oppressed, the media repeats it and follow that false narrative. In this video we will see Berne Sanders repeating right wing talking points and he gets busted by Roland Martin. The claim that the Democratic Party has done nothing for the working class is a lie. Nobody went too woke. Its all a lie, and if any Democrat continues with this, they should get voted out. America needs to face its race problem and do so now. If Democrats want to continue losing, they will continue listening to Republicans telling them what they should do.

Booty Juice/Maryland Dad ‘28

 

[IDIOCRACY]

What we are seeing here after the last election are white Democrats talking like right-wing nutjobs. They're repeating right-wing talking points about what Democrats need to do. Bernie Sanders is one of them. Republicans have used identity politics since at least the Civil Rights Act. But for some reason when Republicans whine and pretend to be poor, innocent, and oppressed, the media repeats it and follow that false narrative. In this video we will see Berne Sanders repeating right wing talking points and he gets busted by Roland Martin. The claim that the Democratic Party has done nothing for the working class is a lie. Nobody went too woke. Its all a lie, and if any Democrat continues with this, they should get voted out. America needs to face its race problem and do so now. If Democrats want to continue losing, they will continue listening to Republicans telling them what they should do.

I read you're pleading for a return to DEI and WOKE. Sorry IM#2, those have been exposed for what they are, which is the concepts and practices are not more or less than poison, and destroy everything, including brains.

 

[IM2]

I read you're pleading for a return to DEI and WOKE. Sorry IM#2, those have been exposed for what they are, which is the concepts and practices are not more or less than poison, and destroy everything, including brains.

You can't read. What I'm saying is that Democrats don't need to listen to the people who have st 3 out of the last 4 national elections. The last-place team in the NFL doesn't get to tell the Eagles how to play football because they won one game.

 

[IM2]

Maybe if democrats and their minions in the media stopped playing the race card every time they get in trouble they might get some of the Country on board with their crazy agenda.

I think that the right needs tpo shut the fuck up with this race card shit. Because that's ALL you guys do.