Idaho Republicans pass resolution urging Supreme Court to end marriage equality

[fncceo]

I really have to ask…what the hell is wrong with these people ?

It is the inevitable backlash against taking things too far the other way.

When companies and government agencies, and even the military, are pushing a ban on words such as “wife” or the mandatory use of non-traditional pronouns with consequences for misgendering, people are going to push back.

This is the direct consequence on trying to radically re-engineer society by legislation without so much as the courtesy of open debate.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

You're not that bright are you https://www.usmessageboard.com/members/ohpleasejustquit.83053/ ?

Pathetic! No actual thoughts on the topic. A mind is a terrible thing to waste

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

It takes a special kind of stupid to think when they tell us that's what they're doing, you refuse to believe them because it blows your cult beliefs all to Hell.

Trans kids' treatment can start younger, new guidelines say

A leading transgender health association has lowered its recommended minimum age for gender transition treatment in teens, including starting sex hormones at age 14 and some surgeries at 15.

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The topic is gay marriage.

However I will say this about your red herring troll post . Gender affirming care is a difficult and contentious issue . This is just one person providing an opinion . Most of us who advocate for trans people agree that great care must be taken when it comes to irreversible proceedures for minors, and any one else for that matter.

Now, can you set aside your anti trans hysteria long enough to make an on topic comment on gay marriage ?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

It is the inevitable backlash against taking things too far the other way.

When companies and government agencies, and even the military, are pushing a ban on words such as “wife” or the mandatory use of non-traditional pronouns with consequences for misgendering, people are going to push back.

This is the direct consequence on trying to radically re-engineer society by legislation without so much as the courtesy of open debate.

How the hell was the legalization of same sex marriage "going to far" ? Marriage has always been evolving and this was the natural and predictable next step. A number of European countries took that step before we did with hardly a notice. . Who the **** is banning words like "wife" ? And what the hell do you mean by no open debate,? Where the **** have you been during all of those years of protracted litigation?

 

[mudwhistle]

The topic is gay marriage.

However I will say this about your red herring troll post . Gender affirming care is a difficult and contentious issue . This is just one person providing an opinion . Most of us who advocate for trans people agree that great care must be taken when it comes to irreversible proceedures for minors, and any one else for that matter.

Now, can you set aside your anti trans hysteria long enough to make an on topic comment on gay marriage ?

I have no anti-trans hatred.

My sister is gay and I have had gay friends.

My sister hates gay activists as much as anyone, because she feels they make things worse for everyone.

And by training children to be gay or trans without their parents permission, I don't see any difference between what they're doing and your average pedophile. They're not just trying to help trans folks with the disorder, but create new ones where none would have been.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I have no anti-trans hatred.

My sister is gay and I have had gay friends.

My sister hates gay activists as much as anyone, because she feels they make things worse for everyone.

And by training children to be gay or trans without their parents permission, I don't see any difference between what they're doing and your average pedophile. They're not just trying to help trans folks with the disorder, but create new ones where none would have been.

"training children to be gay or trans" That does it for me. I can't deal with that level of stupidity

 

[mudwhistle]

"training children to be gay or trans" That does it for me. I can't deal with that level of stupidity

Then get out of here. Take your behind to Bluesky.

It's pretty clear what's going on.

Strange how so many of these folks are getting arrested for porn and child abuse.

 

[initforme]

Divorce must be made easier and quicker regardless. Marriage is less and less popular.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I have no anti-trans hatred.

My sister is gay and I have had gay friends.

My sister hates gay activists as much as anyone, because she feels they make things worse for everyone.

And by training children to be gay or trans without their parents permission, I don't see any difference between what they're doing and your average pedophile. They're not just trying to help trans folks with the disorder, but create new ones where none would have been.

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I have had plenty of gay friends. We got along well because they didn't demand any particular behavior from me, beyond that I treated them with respect and dignity. They never expected from me that I march in their "pride" parade. They certainly never demanded access to any children. The one cross dresser I knew and loved never demanded I call him "her".

They never tried to convince me that I owed them more "rights" than they already had.

I now live in a small, conservative, mainly Christian town, and gays don't live here. I don't pine for the days when my neighborhood was largely gay.

Whatever.

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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

"training children to be gay or trans" That does it for me. I can't deal with that level of stupidity

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[initforme]

I'm a lifelong Christian. I've seen zero need for the emphasis on the word "marriage". The word causes more grief than it has helped society. Marriage rates are going down. People are waiting much longer to get married so those are positive trends.

 

[martybegan]

Can a couple where one is barren? How about two seniors who want to get married?

Those are either defects or natural progression. If everything is working properly two sex couples can procreate, same sex couples cannot.

 

[martybegan]

On a public policy basis, what is your argument for Idaho trying to make it illegal?
-What is the positive impact to society?
-What is the positive impact to the persons involved?
-What is the positive impact of children/step children from previous marriages?

Because they were forced to allow issuance because of a crap SC decision?

Again, I'm all for forcing Idaho to recognize SSM licenses issued outside their State, same as any other valid issued marriage license, I just don't see why we need to force them to ISSUE SSM's if they don't want to.

 

[Moonglow]

It is the inevitable backlash against taking things too far the other way.

When companies and government agencies, and even the military, are pushing a ban on words such as “wife” or the mandatory use of non-traditional pronouns with consequences for misgendering, people are going to push back.

This is the direct consequence on trying to radically re-engineer society by legislation without so much as the courtesy of open debate.

Funny thing is I never had to do what you claim people were forced to do.

 

[Moonglow]

Those are either defects or natural progression. If everything is working properly two sex couples can procreate, same sex couples cannot.

Marriage is not always about having kids.

 

[martybegan]

You can think whatever the **** you want. That does not make you right

And trying to combine both makes you wrong.

Remember, I'm all for forcing States to recognize those SSM licenses issued by other States, I just don't believe the federal Constitution requires States to all issue SSM licenses.

 

[martybegan]

False equivalency logical fallacy- which is a desperate attempt to score a point when one has no actual rational or logical argument

Let me try to explain to you how things work on a grade level that you might be able to deal with, Local, state and the Federal government pass many laws, some of which are challenged on constitutional grounds When such challenges occur, the state or body defending the law must explain why the law is necessary and what the justification is for any restrictions on what might be considered your rights.

Those laws are subject to one of two l legal standards for based on certain factors , Those standards are either strict scrutiny or a rational basis review. From my link below:

Google Search

www.google.com

In the case or marriage, the states that tried to ban same sex marriage were unable to provide a compelling reason for the law, or, even a rational basis. Now why don’t you try to challenge the laws against murder and see what happens.? Ya think that the government just might have a case based on a compelling societal interest for the laws to be upheld?

Please stop being so obtuse > I'm embarrassed for you

Actually the court as usual thought it could get rid of an issue, like with Roe.

With Obergfell they have come close to success with that, but because of all this Trans bullshit, you are now seeing the backlash, and backlashes have a habit of overreaching similar to what they are reacting to.

 

[martybegan]

Marriage is not always about having kids.

It's the original purpose, to create a contract between a man and a woman (or sometimes women) for reasons of parentage, inheritance, and back then sadly, akin to ownership of said women.

 

[Moonglow]

It's the original purpose, to create a contract between a man and a woman (or sometimes women) for reasons of parentage, inheritance, and back then sadly, akin to ownership of said women.

Really, I guess God was the officiator at Adam and Eve's wedding.

 

[martybegan]

Really, I guess God was the officiator at Adam and Eve's wedding.

More towards the Sumerians, Phoenicians, and Babylonians.