I Wonder How Many Divorces Will Result From The Election

[Dr Grump]

Agreed.

But money is the biggest cause of divorce.

Getting divorced over politics ??????

I think James Carville and Mary Matalin are still married (how she does not strangle that stupid bastard is beyond me.....I couldn't sit at a table and listen to his yayayayayayamering).

Same with George Conway. She must be great in the sack. That is the only explanation...

 

[WTH_Progs?]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

I'll never forget day after 2016, liberal setting, about 40-50 cubicles & offices in a room, State employees and contractors. Late riser I get their 1-2 hours later than most, developers like the early hours. Could have heard a pin drop and tense. My buddy comes over a little excited, quiet enough, nothing harmful to a normal person. A woman came over crying, asking us to stop. Soon after everyone rec'd an email demanding we not discuss the election. Mind you they'd NEVER sent an email that even closely resembled that demand. Fuckin hypocrites, if Hillary won you'd think they were celebrating Halloween.

Beautiful gal liked me Even bought me a truck so to speak. She comes in late for a meeting, looked like a drunk cry into the late morning. Plops a bag of candy in front of me, rushes over to the other end, where I mentioned she normally liked me (ha!). Sits down and says aren't you going to pass the candy? Then she unfriended on Facebook. Seen her since, I like her anyway, fuck it, she's so beautiful blond until the alcohol catches up. Wise says keep a distance, the hot/crazy matrix applies.

 

[Grace Is Stoked]

My husband and I don't have identical political beliefs across the board but we share the same ethics, values, and morals and so for the most part we see eye to eye on most political issues. The main differences we have would be on the level of importance of certain issues compared to others but we both agree that they are all important. Obviously there are married couples that hold opposite points of view on important political beliefs but I honestly think that would be tough over time.

 

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Divisive is about setting groups of people against each other.

Targeting political players is not setting groups of people against one another.

Whitmer, is targeted based on her actions in office and the alleged violations of the law.


What group is being demonized or set against others in that example?

Every other sentence out of trumps mouth is demeaning Democrats or the left or some
Childish name he’s calling somebody. Now he is in straight up commieville trying to criminalize his political opponents. It’s weak and fucking pathetic

 

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

The vast majority of his "lies" are harmless hyperbole, not intended to mislead anyone AND, "lying" is not something new.


Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

I disagree. I’ve never seen anybody in leadership be as dishonest and provocative as Trump. He is responsible for much of the chaos we are seeing in our society IMO

Except I explained my conclusion and you not only failed to explain yours, you failed to challenge mine.


Here it is, for you to try. I can see why you did not try though, it is pretty brilliant and well thought out.



Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

Keep patting yourself on the back, it takes a real genius to frame up a cherry picked argument. You really think I’m talking about crowd size? Come on, don’t be an idiot. Trump does exactly what you just complained about the Dems doing. He calls his opponents criminals, commies, he says they are going to destroy your neighborhoods, he promotes conspiracy theories, he floods the zone with lie after lie, can’t even tell the truth during a pandemic. The dude is out of control. Can’t get him out of power soon enough.

 

[Slade3200]

My husband and I don't have identical political beliefs across the board but we share the same ethics, values, and morals and so for the most part we see eye to eye on most political issues. The main differences we have would be on the level of importance of certain issues compared to others but we both agree that they are all important. Obviously there are married couples that hold opposite points of view on important political beliefs but I honestly think that would be tough over time.

Do one of you support Trump and the other Biden?

 

[Grace Is Stoked]

My husband and I don't have identical political beliefs across the board but we share the same ethics, values, and morals and so for the most part we see eye to eye on most political issues. The main differences we have would be on the level of importance of certain issues compared to others but we both agree that they are all important. Obviously there are married couples that hold opposite points of view on important political beliefs but I honestly think that would be tough over time.

Do one of you support Trump and the other Biden?

No, our political differences are subtle and mainly are about which issues each of us prioritize over other issues but for the most part we agree on most things. He is voting for Biden and I'm not voting for president. Our politics are a little more locally focused typically I would say.

 

[beagle9]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

And Biden the career politician, race baiting, quid pro quo Joe never lies eh ? You see this is the problem "hypocrisy" is off the chain, and the work this president has gotten done is attempted to be wiped out by the left, and this is all due to jealousy, whining, and just pure politized corrupt agenda's that threaten the entire nation.

 

[beagle9]

What does a ternader and a deevorce have in common with a Trump supporter? Somebody always loses a trailer.

And then the demoncrats take your hard earned tax dollars, and give them another one for free.

 

[beagle9]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Pathetic because he won't do to the Democrats what they swear they want to do to him ? Yes that is pathetic.

 

[beagle9]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Divisive is about setting groups of people against each other.

Targeting political players is not setting groups of people against one another.

Whitmer, is targeted based on her actions in office and the alleged violations of the law.


What group is being demonized or set against others in that example?

Every other sentence out of trumps mouth is demeaning Democrats or the left or some
Childish name he’s calling somebody. Now he is in straight up commieville trying to criminalize his political opponents. It’s weak and fucking pathetic

Trump attacks those who have unrelentingly attacked him without good cause. They take his words, and they twist them in hopes to brainwash the minion's. It's pathetic because it has worked to some extent or degree, but most aren't fooled by it, and look at Trump's work he has done as President. Trump 2020. Yeahhhhhhhaaaaa.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Sounds like all of you are getting divorced from each other.

 

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

And Biden the career politician, race baiting, quid pro quo Joe never lies eh ? You see this is the problem "hypocrisy" is off the chain, and the work this president has gotten done is attempted to be wiped out by the left, and this is all due to jealousy, whining, and just pure politized corrupt agenda's that threaten the entire nation.

Not even close to the same league as Trump... however, Biden should always be held to account if and when he does lie/mislead/or spin his way through a message

 

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Pathetic because he won't do to the Democrats what they swear they want to do to him ? Yes that is pathetic.

If that’s what you thought I meant then you’re a complete idiot. If you were being sarcastic then you are not very good and making a solid argument/counterpoint. Do better

 

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Divisive is about setting groups of people against each other.

Targeting political players is not setting groups of people against one another.

Whitmer, is targeted based on her actions in office and the alleged violations of the law.


What group is being demonized or set against others in that example?

Every other sentence out of trumps mouth is demeaning Democrats or the left or some
Childish name he’s calling somebody. Now he is in straight up commieville trying to criminalize his political opponents. It’s weak and fucking pathetic

Trump attacks those who have unrelentingly attacked him without good cause. They take his words, and they twist them in hopes to brainwash the minion's. It's pathetic because it has worked to some extent or degree, but most aren't fooled by it, and look at Trump's work he has done as President. Trump 2020. Yeahhhhhhhaaaaa.

Is that right?? Can you give a few examples of how Dr Fauci has unrelentingly attacked Trump without good cause?

 

[Correll]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Divisive is about setting groups of people against each other.

Targeting political players is not setting groups of people against one another.

Whitmer, is targeted based on her actions in office and the alleged violations of the law.


What group is being demonized or set against others in that example?

Every other sentence out of trumps mouth is demeaning Democrats or the left or some
Childish name he’s calling somebody. Now he is in straight up commieville trying to criminalize his political opponents. It’s weak and fucking pathetic

YOu seem to be confused about what divisive is. Calling a political actor a name is not setting one group of Americans against another group of Americans. It is an attack on one politician. That is not "divisive".


Claiming that whites who vote for Trump are wacist, DOES set minorities and liberals against all Trump supporters, and visa versa. That is divisive.



You know, words are supposed to actually MEAN shit, not just be shit you throw at your enemies.

 

[Correll]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

The vast majority of his "lies" are harmless hyperbole, not intended to mislead anyone AND, "lying" is not something new.


Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

I disagree. I’ve never seen anybody in leadership be as dishonest and provocative as Trump. He is responsible for much of the chaos we are seeing in our society IMO

Except I explained my conclusion and you not only failed to explain yours, you failed to challenge mine.


Here it is, for you to try. I can see why you did not try though, it is pretty brilliant and well thought out.



Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

Keep patting yourself on the back, it takes a real genius to frame up a cherry picked argument. You really think I’m talking about crowd size? Come on, don’t be an idiot. Trump does exactly what you just complained about the Dems doing. He calls his opponents criminals, commies, he says they are going to destroy your neighborhoods, he promotes conspiracy theories, he floods the zone with lie after lie, can’t even tell the truth during a pandemic. The dude is out of control. Can’t get him out of power soon enough.

Name his most serious lie, that one that you were thinking of, when you said "can't get him out of power soon enough".

 

[Correll]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

And Biden the career politician, race baiting, quid pro quo Joe never lies eh ? You see this is the problem "hypocrisy" is off the chain, and the work this president has gotten done is attempted to be wiped out by the left, and this is all due to jealousy, whining, and just pure politized corrupt agenda's that threaten the entire nation.

Not even close to the same league as Trump... however, Biden should always be held to account if and when he does lie/mislead/or spin his way through a message

Been hearing Biden ads, attacking Trump for fear mongering and then, panic mongering about all kinds of shit.


It is pathetic beyond words, that you support that guy.

 

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Divisive is about setting groups of people against each other.

Targeting political players is not setting groups of people against one another.

Whitmer, is targeted based on her actions in office and the alleged violations of the law.


What group is being demonized or set against others in that example?

Every other sentence out of trumps mouth is demeaning Democrats or the left or some
Childish name he’s calling somebody. Now he is in straight up commieville trying to criminalize his political opponents. It’s weak and fucking pathetic

YOu seem to be confused about what divisive is. Calling a political actor a name is not setting one group of Americans against another group of Americans. It is an attack on one politician. That is not "divisive".


Claiming that whites who vote for Trump are wacist, DOES set minorities and liberals against all Trump supporters, and visa versa. That is divisive.



You know, words are supposed to actually MEAN shit, not just be shit you throw at your enemies.

The notion it that you don’t think Trump is divisive is absolutely absurd. It’s a waste of time arguing about it. You carry on in your fantasy world if you must making your fake narratives that Mr Innocent is just defending himself and targeting individual opponents. It’s horseshit and we both know it. Don’t waste my time with retarded debates like this

 

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

The vast majority of his "lies" are harmless hyperbole, not intended to mislead anyone AND, "lying" is not something new.


Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

I disagree. I’ve never seen anybody in leadership be as dishonest and provocative as Trump. He is responsible for much of the chaos we are seeing in our society IMO

Except I explained my conclusion and you not only failed to explain yours, you failed to challenge mine.


Here it is, for you to try. I can see why you did not try though, it is pretty brilliant and well thought out.



Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

Keep patting yourself on the back, it takes a real genius to frame up a cherry picked argument. You really think I’m talking about crowd size? Come on, don’t be an idiot. Trump does exactly what you just complained about the Dems doing. He calls his opponents criminals, commies, he says they are going to destroy your neighborhoods, he promotes conspiracy theories, he floods the zone with lie after lie, can’t even tell the truth during a pandemic. The dude is out of control. Can’t get him out of power soon enough.

Name his most serious lie, that one that you were thinking of, when you said "can't get him out of power soon enough".

I’ve been through this over and over and over again throughout the years. There is a new lie everyday that I can point to. Y’all have blinders on. The lie of the week he is spreading right now is calling the Biden’s an organized crime family, a criminal enterprise. Are you fucking kidding me?! He is so desperate to make his opponent a criminal so he can run the same campaign as he did vs Hillary. It’s pretty despicable