I Wonder How Many Divorces Will Result From The Election

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

And Biden the career politician, race baiting, quid pro quo Joe never lies eh ? You see this is the problem "hypocrisy" is off the chain, and the work this president has gotten done is attempted to be wiped out by the left, and this is all due to jealousy, whining, and just pure politized corrupt agenda's that threaten the entire nation.

Not even close to the same league as Trump... however, Biden should always be held to account if and when he does lie/mislead/or spin his way through a message

Been hearing Biden ads, attacking Trump for fear mongering and then, panic mongering about all kinds of shit.


It is pathetic beyond words, that you support that guy.

Yes I absolutely support that guy. What specifically did Biden accuse Trump of in those ads that isn’t verified or true?

 

[mudwhistle]

Couples should get to know one another on ALL levels. Doesn't mean it always happens that way. I grew up in a very liberal environment, yet now, Conservative on most views. Each party should be respectful towards one another, as in any relationship.

I’d bet the farm; if couples don’t share common political ground in these times...there’s far bigger problems in the relationship.

Agreed.

But money is the biggest cause of divorce.

Getting divorced over politics ??????

I think James Carville and Mary Matalin are still married (how she does not strangle that stupid bastard is beyond me.....I couldn't sit at a table and listen to his yayayayayayamering).

Those two are a perfect example of what used to be politics in this country.

Now people who are on opposite sides literally hate each other.

Liberals lie about anything and everything and they attack Deplorables at every opportunity.
Conservatives just walk away leaving them screaming like Hyenas.

 

[mudwhistle]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

The vast majority of his "lies" are harmless hyperbole, not intended to mislead anyone AND, "lying" is not something new.


Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

I disagree. I’ve never seen anybody in leadership be as dishonest and provocative as Trump. He is responsible for much of the chaos we are seeing in our society IMO

Except I explained my conclusion and you not only failed to explain yours, you failed to challenge mine.


Here it is, for you to try. I can see why you did not try though, it is pretty brilliant and well thought out.



Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

Keep patting yourself on the back, it takes a real genius to frame up a cherry picked argument. You really think I’m talking about crowd size? Come on, don’t be an idiot. Trump does exactly what you just complained about the Dems doing. He calls his opponents criminals, commies, he says they are going to destroy your neighborhoods, he promotes conspiracy theories, he floods the zone with lie after lie, can’t even tell the truth during a pandemic. The dude is out of control. Can’t get him out of power soon enough.

Name his most serious lie, that one that you were thinking of, when you said "can't get him out of power soon enough".

I’ve been through this over and over and over again throughout the years. There is a new lie everyday that I can point to. Y’all have blinders on. The lie of the week he is spreading right now is calling the Biden’s an organized crime family, a criminal enterprise. Are you fucking kidding me?! He is so desperate to make his opponent a criminal so he can run the same campaign as he did vs Hillary. It’s pretty despicable

When you're entire family is breaking the law that's what they used to call a crime family.
Hunter is the Fredo of that family.

 

[toobfreak]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Lemmee guess. In every case, the husband is a calm, rational, informed, reasoned Trump supporter and the wife is a wild-eyed, full tilt, rabid Trump hater fearer Biden lover unwilling tio listen to reason.

Am I close?

 

[toobfreak]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

This will make Mac1958 piss his panties....Real men are in command of their households...this shit doesn’t happen in households run by alpha males.

Alpha Male. That is a dirty word in Progressive World.

 

[toobfreak]

My 22-year marriage didn’t survive Trump’s election

A longtime Washington state couple took each other to have and to hold, for better or for worse – until Donald Trump forced them to part. Gayle McCormick, of Bellingham, was shocked when her hubby …

nypost.com

Yep...lots of emotion.

The Progressive Agenda is aimed at many of the weaker female minds and the young liberal pussy male. Democrats aim for the easy marks. Fortunately not all women are so gullible.

 

[kaz]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

I don't get how a marriage could fall apart over politics. Then again, I don't think I could have ever married a leftist in the first place

 

[toobfreak]

Obama is the reason we have Trump. Nobody seems to realize that. Obama and the establishment turned their backs on a lot of us

More than turned his back. He outright targeted us.

Fortunately Biden will be president to ALL Americans.

 

[kaz]

Thats unbelievable.

I saw a piece on the news today about the elderly getting hooked on FOX News and the right wing hate websites. A daughter was talking about what happened to her father. He was angry, bitter, agitated, ranting on about evil Democrats, and becoming more miserable and unhappy. Family stopped visiting him.

Then he started having mild cognitive problems and couldn't remember his passwords or get into his websites, so he unplugged and went out for a walk and started reconnecting with the real world, and real people. When he stopped logging into alt right websites, watching FOX News and got out of his right wing bubble, he recovered his mental health and stability and his personality returned to normal.

There are a lot of concerns around the brainwashing and radicalizing effects of right wing sites, on both the elderly, and the young. When the internet first became available to the public, everyone welcomed the idea of uncensored voices and lack of supression of information. Instead what we're seeing is the exploitation of the gullible, home made porn, child sex trafficking, and the enemies of democracy promoting conspiracy theories and lies.

FOX News may have trouble getting their broadcast license renewed, given their crass dishonesty and promotion of Trump's lies and conspiracy theories.

Nah...when I said "thats unbelievable" I was referring to him saying he had friends.

Don't quit your day job, Don Rickles. You and your four year old friends sitting around saying blob, blobber blobbing blob for hours do have fun though, huh? Anyway, here you go!

 

[toobfreak]

My significant other is a lefty loony and I've become more right-wing since watching Trump actually do what he said he would do. That said, we are doing just fine. Just keep the politics out of the bedroom and agree that each can vote their conscience during elections. What goes on in the home is what's important and never go to bed angry with each other.

I see what broke up my marriage now.

I used to turn on Michael Savage on the car radio on the ride home from my in-laws and made the mistake that my wife's silence meant he was actually getting through to her.

 

[Correll]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Divisive is about setting groups of people against each other.

Targeting political players is not setting groups of people against one another.

Whitmer, is targeted based on her actions in office and the alleged violations of the law.


What group is being demonized or set against others in that example?

Every other sentence out of trumps mouth is demeaning Democrats or the left or some
Childish name he’s calling somebody. Now he is in straight up commieville trying to criminalize his political opponents. It’s weak and fucking pathetic

YOu seem to be confused about what divisive is. Calling a political actor a name is not setting one group of Americans against another group of Americans. It is an attack on one politician. That is not "divisive".


Claiming that whites who vote for Trump are wacist, DOES set minorities and liberals against all Trump supporters, and visa versa. That is divisive.



You know, words are supposed to actually MEAN shit, not just be shit you throw at your enemies.

The notion it that you don’t think Trump is divisive is absolutely absurd. It’s a waste of time arguing about it. You carry on in your fantasy world if you must making your fake narratives that Mr Innocent is just defending himself and targeting individual opponents. It’s horseshit and we both know it. Don’t waste my time with retarded debates like this

That pain you feel when someone asks you to support your claims, that is your brain warning you of danger.


Danger to your fragile world view, built on lies.

 

[Cecilie1200]

My 22-year marriage didn’t survive Trump’s election

A longtime Washington state couple took each other to have and to hold, for better or for worse – until Donald Trump forced them to part. Gayle McCormick, of Bellingham, was shocked when her hubby …

nypost.com

Yep...lots of emotion.

I like how all these headlines blame Trump, when a reading of the articles tells us that the real problem isn't Trump or his Presidency, but leftist sanctimony, bullying, and intolerance.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

The division started a long time ago.

Really, it was the Reagan Carter race where things got stupidly negative.

Since then it has gotten worse and worse.

Trump ran. That is his right. He hasn't been any different in the WH than what we expected. He's a gunner.

I blame the left for their bullshit....what I don't get is that they can't ignore him. They are constantly triggered.

Next...they have no fucking candidates. Bernie, Dizzy Lizzy and the Petrified Piece of Shit Biden....all terrible. All East Coast 1%ers.

And that pisses the left off even more. They really have no good leadership. Please don't tell me you like Schumer and Pelosi. I mean holy fuck.

So, I knew what I was getting with Trump.

But he didn't do any of the terrible shit people were all freaked out over.

The last I heard...he's gaining with young blacks becasue (up until covid....and they seem tolerant) they were getting better opportunity.

But...he's a racist.

So....don't blame Trump.

BTW: I seriously dislike Obama...always have. But I thought the GOP treated him like shit and I didn't like it.

It's impossible for conservatives to understand leftist intolerance, because we aren't assholes.

 

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

The vast majority of his "lies" are harmless hyperbole, not intended to mislead anyone AND, "lying" is not something new.


Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

I disagree. I’ve never seen anybody in leadership be as dishonest and provocative as Trump. He is responsible for much of the chaos we are seeing in our society IMO

Except I explained my conclusion and you not only failed to explain yours, you failed to challenge mine.


Here it is, for you to try. I can see why you did not try though, it is pretty brilliant and well thought out.



Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

Keep patting yourself on the back, it takes a real genius to frame up a cherry picked argument. You really think I’m talking about crowd size? Come on, don’t be an idiot. Trump does exactly what you just complained about the Dems doing. He calls his opponents criminals, commies, he says they are going to destroy your neighborhoods, he promotes conspiracy theories, he floods the zone with lie after lie, can’t even tell the truth during a pandemic. The dude is out of control. Can’t get him out of power soon enough.

Name his most serious lie, that one that you were thinking of, when you said "can't get him out of power soon enough".

I’ve been through this over and over and over again throughout the years. There is a new lie everyday that I can point to. Y’all have blinders on. The lie of the week he is spreading right now is calling the Biden’s an organized crime family, a criminal enterprise. Are you fucking kidding me?! He is so desperate to make his opponent a criminal so he can run the same campaign as he did vs Hillary. It’s pretty despicable

When you're entire family is breaking the law that's what they used to call a crime family.
Hunter is the Fredo of that family.

If they are breaking the law then why aren’t they in jail?. Why aren’t they being investigated? Why did they come out clean after two senate investigations?? Y’all are full of shit and these are unfounded accusations

 

[Slade3200]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Divisive is about setting groups of people against each other.

Targeting political players is not setting groups of people against one another.

Whitmer, is targeted based on her actions in office and the alleged violations of the law.


What group is being demonized or set against others in that example?

Every other sentence out of trumps mouth is demeaning Democrats or the left or some
Childish name he’s calling somebody. Now he is in straight up commieville trying to criminalize his political opponents. It’s weak and fucking pathetic

YOu seem to be confused about what divisive is. Calling a political actor a name is not setting one group of Americans against another group of Americans. It is an attack on one politician. That is not "divisive".


Claiming that whites who vote for Trump are wacist, DOES set minorities and liberals against all Trump supporters, and visa versa. That is divisive.



You know, words are supposed to actually MEAN shit, not just be shit you throw at your enemies.

The notion it that you don’t think Trump is divisive is absolutely absurd. It’s a waste of time arguing about it. You carry on in your fantasy world if you must making your fake narratives that Mr Innocent is just defending himself and targeting individual opponents. It’s horseshit and we both know it. Don’t waste my time with retarded debates like this

That pain you feel when someone asks you to support your claims, that is your brain warning you of danger.


Danger to your fragile world view, built on lies.

My claims have been supported. If you don’t see it then you don’t see it. I don’t have the interest in explaining why the sky is blue to a manchild

 

[Oldestyle]

Thats unbelievable.

I saw a piece on the news today about the elderly getting hooked on FOX News and the right wing hate websites. A daughter was talking about what happened to her father. He was angry, bitter, agitated, ranting on about evil Democrats, and becoming more miserable and unhappy. Family stopped visiting him.

Then he started having mild cognitive problems and couldn't remember his passwords or get into his websites, so he unplugged and went out for a walk and started reconnecting with the real world, and real people. When he stopped logging into alt right websites, watching FOX News and got out of his right wing bubble, he recovered his mental health and stability and his personality returned to normal.

There are a lot of concerns around the brainwashing and radicalizing effects of right wing sites, on both the elderly, and the young. When the internet first became available to the public, everyone welcomed the idea of uncensored voices and lack of supression of information. Instead what we're seeing is the exploitation of the gullible, home made porn, child sex trafficking, and the enemies of democracy promoting conspiracy theories and lies.

FOX News may have trouble getting their broadcast license renewed, given their crass dishonesty and promotion of Trump's lies and conspiracy theories.

Wow...you seriously just tried to claim that FOX News causes cognitive problems? That kind of stupid is hard to believe!

 

[Oldestyle]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

All Trump; has done, is refuse to be intimidated by you people.

No he has done much much more than refusing to be inditmidated. That’s a rather weak statement on your part.

Hint: The hidden meanings you imagine that he is sending out with "code words", don't actually count as something HE did.


Cause it is all in your head.


Like when he said that there were "nice people" on both sides of the issue of historical statues, and the libs heard though "code words" that he "meant" ws,


that was not something Trump actually DID.

That was just insanity you people were suffering from.


ALL your complaints about him are like that. You are delusional.

I don’t lend any weight to those secret messages or dog whistles you are attributing to me. I go off the things I directly see and hear. The fact you pretend there is nothing antagonistic or divisive about the living troll we have for a president just shows how out of touch from reality you are.

Give me your best example.

Come on, this is just obvious stuff. He has crowds of thousands chanting to lock up his political opponents. That’s one out of many many thousands of disgusting divisive and completely inappropriate things for a president to do and it is pushing our country in a horrible direction

The way that Hillary was given a pass for criminal behavior was a valid political issue.

That is not divisive. THat does not slander a whole group of the population or set them against another group.


That was a valid political issue. PARTISANS, might have been upset at their leader being targeted but saying something about Hillary is not slandering tens of millions of Americans, like when you guys pretend that anyone who opposes you must be an ist of a phobe of some sort.

I’m not talking about Hillary. His crowds right now are chanting to lock up Whitmer and also the Biden family who Trump is now calling a criminal enterprise. The dude is just pathetic.

Divisive is about setting groups of people against each other.

Targeting political players is not setting groups of people against one another.

Whitmer, is targeted based on her actions in office and the alleged violations of the law.


What group is being demonized or set against others in that example?

Every other sentence out of trumps mouth is demeaning Democrats or the left or some
Childish name he’s calling somebody. Now he is in straight up commieville trying to criminalize his political opponents. It’s weak and fucking pathetic

YOu seem to be confused about what divisive is. Calling a political actor a name is not setting one group of Americans against another group of Americans. It is an attack on one politician. That is not "divisive".


Claiming that whites who vote for Trump are wacist, DOES set minorities and liberals against all Trump supporters, and visa versa. That is divisive.



You know, words are supposed to actually MEAN shit, not just be shit you throw at your enemies.

The notion it that you don’t think Trump is divisive is absolutely absurd. It’s a waste of time arguing about it. You carry on in your fantasy world if you must making your fake narratives that Mr Innocent is just defending himself and targeting individual opponents. It’s horseshit and we both know it. Don’t waste my time with retarded debates like this

That pain you feel when someone asks you to support your claims, that is your brain warning you of danger.


Danger to your fragile world view, built on lies.

My claims have been supported. If you don’t see it then you don’t see it. I don’t have the interest in explaining why the sky is blue to a manchild

You always claim that you views have been "supported" Slade and then proceed to refuse to support them! It's amusing...

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is laughable...If there are couples splitting up over politics, then there are deeper issues than that....No one that I know of splits over politics...And if they do, then they weren't meant for each other in the first place.

When things get this bad, it digs deep at relationships, family, and friends. Some might ask their wife if they believe that a woman should be killing their babies at various stages as a form of birth control ? The answers to alot of such question's can be daming to a relationship. Otherwise who wants to live with an accessory to someone murdering they babies ?

This is what happens when you spend your dating time prior to marriage focusing on whether or not you like the same restaurants or the same movies, rather than grilling your potential partner on the important issues. People thought my husband and I were weird for marrying two months after we met, but we spent that two months grilling each other like the Spanish Inquisition. Hell, just the fact that my husband had the same view of dating that I did told me we were perfect for each other.

 

[Correll]

I have two sets of friends who worry me.

It's gotten that ugly. In both cases, they have strong family ties that pull them in certain directions. In one case....the mom is no longer interested in going to her in-laws. Her kids can't go either which I think is a damn shame. But she's been told she really isn't welcome there. It all stems from several large arguments.

Well, that is where we are at.

In 2016, it seemed we heard of divorces over the election. I wonder if people can keep it together despite the clown show we have going on now.

Politics has always been taboo but never as toxic as it is now. I know you blame the Dems but do you honestly not see the roll that Trump has played and continues to play with this horrible division?

Trump has brought likeminded families like mine together politically...he’s helped them form a tighter bond, and he’s given good real Americans hope and confidence in our government/ democracy. CNN hasn’t told you these stories have they?

I’ve seen enough with my eyes. I’m glad your fam gets a laugh out of our president, that’s great and all but unfortunately the negative effects that others are experience far out number the good

Trump isn't responsible for these "negative effects " these people feel. These people are in control of THEMSELVES, along with their FEELINGS AND BEHAVIORS. That's nothing but more "victim" behavior.

Exactly right..... Going against the grain in life usually brings about negative effects, and it definitely dulls the senses.

I don’t see Trump as going against the grain as much as dishonestly trolling his opponents.

Trump is going with the grain by doing his job as he promised the American people. The left is the one going against the grain by fighting with the majority of the American people.

I don’t see Trump as doing his job when he constantly lies and spin about what’s going on. True he faces a waive of opposition from the media and his political opponents but that tends to happen when those in power lie and insult instead of engage in honest discourse and communication

Trump is a braggart and uses a lot of hyperbole. That does not justify the reaction we have seen from you people.


You should look at this. It is quite funny, but makes a very valid point.

There have been a lot of unjustified overreactions to Trump. There have also been very justified reactions that call him out when he lies which is pretty much all the time. Either way none of that justifies how he conducts himself, the effects of which are his responsibility

The vast majority of his "lies" are harmless hyperbole, not intended to mislead anyone AND, "lying" is not something new.


Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

I disagree. I’ve never seen anybody in leadership be as dishonest and provocative as Trump. He is responsible for much of the chaos we are seeing in our society IMO

Except I explained my conclusion and you not only failed to explain yours, you failed to challenge mine.


Here it is, for you to try. I can see why you did not try though, it is pretty brilliant and well thought out.



Far worse "lies" have been told, than bragging about the size of a crowd, or about just how good an economy is/was.


PRETENDING that he is a ws, or an Authoritarian, or a freaking Russian Agent, those a lies designed to deceive people and to set large portions of the population against each other.

And they have succeeded, as we seen in the op, or in the streets with violent mobs killing each other.

Trump is not responsible for any of that. Your side's reactions is.

Keep patting yourself on the back, it takes a real genius to frame up a cherry picked argument. You really think I’m talking about crowd size? Come on, don’t be an idiot. Trump does exactly what you just complained about the Dems doing. He calls his opponents criminals, commies, he says they are going to destroy your neighborhoods, he promotes conspiracy theories, he floods the zone with lie after lie, can’t even tell the truth during a pandemic. The dude is out of control. Can’t get him out of power soon enough.

Name his most serious lie, that one that you were thinking of, when you said "can't get him out of power soon enough".

I’ve been through this over and over and over again throughout the years. There is a new lie everyday that I can point to. Y’all have blinders on. The lie of the week he is spreading right now is calling the Biden’s an organized crime family, a criminal enterprise. Are you fucking kidding me?! He is so desperate to make his opponent a criminal so he can run the same campaign as he did vs Hillary. It’s pretty despicable

No, not the most recent one, the most serious one. A reasonable request.

Ask you to back up your claim, is not unreasonable.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Meh, 4 generations of our entire family are pro Trump...he's that good!

My 11-year-old was listening to the news with me this morning while we had coffee - yes, he listens to the news AND he drinks coffee - and there was a video clip of this leftist bitch going berserk and screaming at Republicans about how horrible they are (pretty standard, of course). He looks up at me and says, "That woman could get run over by a parked car."