What does a winning authoritarian election result do to the continuation of just and equal self rule under our Constitution?

[whutTHEYsay]

Okay, good. btw, I am a black Republican and also proud about it.

Do you know what Trump meant on January 6, 2021 when he said if Mike Pence does the right thing during accounting of the votes in the joint session of Congress that he was going to win the 2020 election and make you a black Republican happy.

How was Trump going to magically legally and constitutionally “win“ on January 6, 2029 14 days before the newly elected president was supposed to be sworn in? How?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Okay, good. btw, I am a black Republican and also proud about it.

I was in high school in April 1968 when Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated. Half of my friends in high school were black in a town where about a third of the population was black in my small town of 30.000. My town had three other auto plants and a foundry much other manufacturing and the jobs were good. My dad was a UAW, but he was an alcoholic and a racist, but he was what they called a functioning alcoholic because he was also a workaholic, and I swear the man never slept.

One of my best friends at the time was a white guy who had a passion for Motorcycles, British Motorcycles, but we were also strongly opposed to the war in Vietnam, and we spent time at the library studying up on the war, Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King commitment to peaceful protest and the relation ship of Christianity to it all.

So when the community organized a memorial service for MLK, my friend and I did not hesitate to go. It was in an auditorium so I don’t know what the capacity was but it seem like a few thousand. I was shocked, but not surprised. I guess to see that my friend and I were the only two white human beings locked with handover hand, swaying and chanting we shall overcome..

That was an experience I shall never forget it’s rare to find that much love in a room of grieving people.

It would be a while before I could vote, but I was old enough to be sent to fight the war in Vietnam for what I began to wonder.

I marched in protest against the war and stood politically for civil rights and women’s rights at its peak between 1968 and 1972.

I was not a radical because I’d become a father, and that became my priority in life

One thing has never changed. Is that during that period. I saw the Democratic Party as being the only party that stood for a pluralistic multicultural society in the way that are founding fathers intended it to be. They set it up so that it could make progress in that moral direction.

So I am old enough to understand that even though George Wallace started out as a Democrat, the Democrats rejected him, and he had to run as an independent, and after he was shot, the Republican Party took over his base of white Christian support in the old confederate south.

Because of my experience between 1963 and 1972 I could never vote for a Republican for anything even dog catcher if he was my best friend running for it. I just in good conscience could never pull that lever.

And in my opinion under Donald Trump, the Republican is even worse than it was in 1972.


When I cast my vote for KAMALA/WALZ/BIDEN I do so with vigor enthusiasm and joy because I know they are on their way to a win.

Let’s just hope Don Trump and you get the message that the Republican party doesn’t try the shit they tried before when Trump lost on November 3, 2020.

 

[roderick]

I was in high school in April 1968 when Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated. Half of my friends in high school were black in a town where about a third of the population was black in my small town of 30.000. My town had three other auto plants and a foundry much other manufacturing and the jobs were good. My dad was a UAW, but he was an alcoholic and a racist, but he was what they called a functioning alcoholic because he was also a workaholic, and I swear the man never slept.

One of my best friends at the time was a white guy who had a passion for Motorcycles, British Motorcycles, but we were also strongly opposed to the war in Vietnam, and we spent time at the library studying up on the war, Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King commitment to peaceful protest and the relation ship of Christianity to it all.

So when the community organized a memorial service for MLK, my friend and I did not hesitate to go. It was in an auditorium so I don’t know what the capacity was but it seem like a few thousand. I was shocked, but not surprised. I guess to see that my friend and I were the only two white human beings locked with handover hand, swaying and chanting we shall overcome..

That was an experience I shall never forget it’s rare to find that much love in a room of grieving people.

It would be a while before I could vote, but I was old enough to be sent to fight the war in Vietnam for what I began to wonder.

I marched in protest against the war and stood politically for civil rights and women’s rights at its peak between 1968 and 1972.

I was not a radical because I’d become a father, and that became my priority in life

One thing has never changed. Is that during that period. I saw the Democratic Party as being the only party that stood for a pluralistic multicultural society in the way that are founding fathers intended it to be. They set it up so that it could make progress in that moral direction.

So I am old enough to understand that even though George Wallace started out as a Democrat, the Democrats rejected him, and he had to run as an independent, and after he was shot, the Republican Party took over his base of white Christian support in the old confederate south.

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Because of my experience between 1963 and 1972 I could never vote for a Republican for anything even dog catcher if he was my best friend running for it. I just in good conscience could never pull that lever.

And in my opinion under Donald Trump, the Republican is even worse than it was in 1972.


When I cast my vote for KAMALA/WALZ/BIDEN I do so with vigor enthusiasm and joy because I know they are on their way to a win.

Let’s just hope Don Trump and you get the message that the Republican party doesn’t try the shit they tried before when Trump lost on November 3, 2020.

tldr. I'm black and voting for Trump.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

tldr. I'm black and voting for Trump.

I offer my condolences to western liberal democracy, and to our nation if what you are voting for should happen to prevail.

 

[roderick]

I offer my condolences to western liberal democracy, and to our nation if what you are voting for should happen to prevail.

I doubt you know the meaning of western liberal democracy.

 

[Moonglow]

If a handful of angry white voters in one or up to six or seven states can force a winning authoritarian election result they want; will that simply upend the spirit of the Constitution; or will it be an existential threat to the Constitution in and of itself?

I do not want to take the risk to find out.

Republicans right now are locked in with a Biblical messiah figure strong man with full knowledge that their sore loser has in his first abuse of power, attempted to defile the Constitution as a sitting President on J6,2021.

One of the two viable political parties are presently supporting an old grumpy white convicted felon male who aspires to be their strong man when he resumes the chief law enforcement office in the land.

He has chosen a VP who says he would do what the first VP would not do. Violating the Constitution to overturn another lost election would not be a problem for JD Vance he says.

Opposition during this election year to becoming subjects of authoritarian rule was anemic just a couple of weeks ago. Why?

Until the evening of July 21, 2024, generation XYZ and white women in particular were insufficiently concerned about the threat to our Constitution. They didn’t seem to care that the Republican Party as it currently displays itself while governing under the influence of MAGA under Don Trump is an existential threat to our democracy.

The existential threat to western liberal democracy and the American experience that created it, seemed to be unstoppable when the only choice we had was between two old white men in their eighties.

One of those two old white men solved the problem and boy did he solve it.

Nature’s God and the founding fathers who wrote our Constitution will bless the “decent” old white male that gave generation XYZ and white women in particular a reason for excitement, optimism and joy to return to campaigning for a person we are confident who will preserve our Constitutional protect life liberty and pursuit of happiness for all persons who are fortunate enough to be born an American citizen.

I thank you from the bottom of my heart to our Forever Young and Wise old Joe.

Dark Brandon does it again!

When the US started, the populace did not elect the president or vice president.

 

[Moonglow]

Okay, good. btw, I am a black Republican and also proud about it.

 

[roderick]

 

[Moonglow]

Trump is sleepwalking.

 

[roderick]

Trump is sleepwalking.

Biden is molesting.

 

[Moonglow]

Biden is molesting.

Gotta have a hobby to beat depression.

 

[roderick]

Gotta have a hobby to beat depression.

lol

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump will be defeated, so that won't happen.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The left in the US, wants a one-party only governmental dictatorship

Not really:

nfbw 240926 Vachyz00700

i. America's Christian Heritage 240924 {post•687}. NotfooledbyW Sep’24 Vachyz: My argument relies on the fact that Democrats had a sizeable faction that was racist until about the time the Party threw George Wallace out. nfbw 240924 Vachyz00687. dvng 240825 Vachyz683

ii. America's Christian Heritage 240924 {post•689}. ding Sep’24 Sachyz:Not only has the Democratic Party not apologized for their racist (KKK) heritage they refused to do so when asked to do so. dvng 240924 Sachyz00689

iii. White Lives Matter 210321p {post•49}. ding Mar’03 Swlmyz: Those cross burning Christians were Democrats. They were stopped by Republican Christians. dvng 210321 Swlmyz00049

Iv. America's Christian Heritage 240925 {post•700}. NotfooledbyW Sep’24 Vachyz: The Klan's conception and deep conviction of the white race as favored by God in Christianity and white Christian political power is central to the preservation and survival of the the United States of America as the Biblical God of Abraham intended America to be. •¥•. There is no core distinction separating the cross burning white Christian Democrat authoritarians in the defeated South during the latter half of the nineteenth century and the Capitol storming white Christian Republican authoritarians under the influence of Don Trump and MAGA. The common thread is white Christian nationalism seeking an authoritarian solution to the problems a multitude of factors impacting the lost joy of being white to some who do not like the dwindling away of white Christian power in a nation given to white people by God.

FYI: RWAS • Right Wing Authoritarian Scale • Vachyz00698. (e.g., in Theodorp Adorno et al’s 1950 classic "The Authoritarian Personality"), PRRI developed a Right-Wing Authoritarianism Scale (RWAS) based on agreement with four highly correlated measures of authoritarian attitudes. PRRI finds that 43% of Americans score high or very high on the RWAS, compared with 37% who score low or very low; two in ten Americans qualify as having mixed opinions (20%).

nfbw 240926 Vachyz00700

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The responsible right to the far boo hoo left do not want evangelical Christianity running the government.

 

[IM2]

Nobody wants a theocracy.

 

[San Souci]

The left in the US, wants a one-party only governmental dictatorship, calling it democracy, but once all other opposition political parties are not allowed a voice in the government, they actually cease to be a democracy. The left attaches friendly social names to their nation, but are anything but.
1. "Democratic People's Republic" of Korea. Sure sounds nice, except that it's North Korea and it's people suffer under its rule.
2. "People's Republic" of China. Sure sounds nice here too. Opposition voices are rounded up and disappear.
3. Laos "People's Democratic Republic." Again, sure sounds all inclusive, but it sure isn't.
Americans calling themselves "Democratic Socialists," refer to each other as "Comrade." Very Soviet of them.
Whether its the above nations or Cuba, or Venezuela, they (the left) all have the following in common:
Authoritarian, Oppressive, Persecutory, Tyrannical and outright massively Murderous to its own people, if they don't agree with their policies.
Trump, can be annoying, but he recognizes an important thing, if he wins the election, he will be a "Lame-Duck" president. A one term president, then, due to age and the limit on two terms, he will step aside.
As for our Constitution, cite a nation with a better ruling document.

True. AOC is a Commie. So is Pig Harris.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

San Souci is gaslighting his opponents, when in fact MAGA is authoritarian as it comes in America.

I am afraid the Dems will respond in kind as they respond to oppose MaGA.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

000 20. simple to be lied to

i. ding cclxxxix to 158. : Actually the American people rendered their verdict on the Democratic Party by rejecting them on every level. dvng 241110 Stbwms00289

ii. NotfooledbyW xxxvii. to tbwms00289 : Actually the American Jesus// MAGA// Trump’s // people rendered themselves “simple to be lied to” by right leaning global billionaires under the masterful ability of Don Trump to package and sell alternate realities that enrich him no matter what he does to inflict pain on working class America. nfbw 241213 Vtjatb00037

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

If a handful of angry white voters in one or up to six or seven states can force a winning authoritarian election result they want; will that simply upend the spirit of the Constitution; or will it be an existential threat to the Constitution in and of itself?

I do not want to take the risk to find out.

Republicans right now are locked in with a Biblical messiah figure strong man with full knowledge that their sore loser has in his first abuse of power, attempted to defile the Constitution as a sitting President on J6,2021.

One of the two viable political parties are presently supporting an old grumpy white convicted felon male who aspires to be their strong man when he resumes the chief law enforcement office in the land.

He has chosen a VP who says he would do what the first VP would not do. Violating the Constitution to overturn another lost election would not be a problem for JD Vance he says.

Opposition during this election year to becoming subjects of authoritarian rule was anemic just a couple of weeks ago. Why?

Until the evening of July 21, 2024, generation XYZ and white women in particular were insufficiently concerned about the threat to our Constitution. They didn’t seem to care that the Republican Party as it currently displays itself while governing under the influence of MAGA under Don Trump is an existential threat to our democracy.

The existential threat to western liberal democracy and the American experience that created it, seemed to be unstoppable when the only choice we had was between two old white men in their eighties.

One of those two old white men solved the problem and boy did he solve it.

Nature’s God and the founding fathers who wrote our Constitution will bless the “decent” old white male that gave generation XYZ and white women in particular a reason for excitement, optimism and joy to return to campaigning for a person we are confident who will preserve our Constitutional protect life liberty and pursuit of happiness for all persons who are fortunate enough to be born an American citizen.

I thank you from the bottom of my heart to our Forever Young and Wise old Joe.

Dark Brandon does it again!

Winning by 7 million votes, isn't a "handful" of angry white voters. For the record, blacks, Hispanics, Asians and suburban white housewives were a part of that majority. They saw who the actual threat to our Constitution is and it isn't the Republican Party. They also saw what "used to be" the Democrat Party devolve further left than in the JFK era. I was in the military when Kennedy was president and he was one of my favorite presidents. The so-called Democrat Party of today would never accept him. They'd call him right-wing.