I will not Bow!

[Indeependent]

The Jews have ancestors who pre-date the Ottoman Empire, Arabs and Islam. Your move.

Name one Jew, just one, who can traces his ancestors back to Palestine.

Are you freaking kidding?
That's one of the arguments bolstered by the Kohen Gene..
And now you're going to deny there ever was a First or Second Temple.
Or that it was a fairy tale, including the Roman Conquest.
Or that it's all ancient history.

You are so pathetic.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So what? The so called Palestinians are all immigrants too. From Syria, Egypt, Jordan. Get the picture?

Not true, most Palestinians have ancestors who predate the Ottoman Empire.

I hear that a lot but the immigration statistics do not agree.

Actually, the Arab population declined from about 93% at the turn of the century to about 65% by 1948.

Edit: Nice deflection though.

Which means you are correct (in your mind) OR victory67 is correct (in his mind) .
You can't BOTH be correct on this issue.

I don't know what Victory's position is on these issues but:

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization.

Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants.

My statement is correct.​

 

[toastman]

Not true, most Palestinians have ancestors who predate the Ottoman Empire.

I hear that a lot but the immigration statistics do not agree.

Actually, the Arab population declined from about 93% at the turn of the century to about 65% by 1948.

Edit: Nice deflection though.

Which means you are correct (in your mind) OR victory67 is correct (in his mind) .
You can't BOTH be correct on this issue.

I don't know what Victory's position is on these issues but:

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization.

Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants.

My statement is correct.​

None of this has ANYTHING to do with anything.

Israel lawfully declared independence after the cessation of the mandate

 

[toastman]

Not true. Foreign organizations unilaterally declared Israel. The UN had nothing to do with it.

LOL You're so full of propaganda shit.

Can you please show me the link you use to read about Israels DOI ?

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization.

Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants.

My statement is correct.

But what does this have to do with anything?

Why do you constantly bring up things that have nothing to do with nothing??

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The Jews have ancestors who pre-date the Ottoman Empire, Arabs and Islam. Your move.

Name one Jew, just one, who can traces his ancestors back to Palestine.

Are you freaking kidding?
That's one of the arguments bolstered by the Kohen Gene..
And now you're going to deny there ever was a First or Second Temple.
Or that it was a fairy tale, including the Roman Conquest.
Or that it's all ancient history.

You are so pathetic.

Archaeological evidence shows that Jews/Israelites/ Hebrews have been there. I've been to many museum exhibitions that show this. That's why Jose keeps saying that today's Jews are somehow not related to the Israelites of the past. But Jose is wrong about that.

 

[Victory67]

Are you freaking kidding?
That's one of the arguments bolstered by the Kohen Gene..
And now you're going to deny there ever was a First or Second Temple.
Or that it was a fairy tale, including the Roman Conquest.
Or that it's all ancient history.

You are so pathetic.

The so-called Kohain gene only shows common ancestry. It doesn't say where the common ancestor lived. It had no GPS tracking system, you idiot.

 

[Victory67]

Which means you are correct (in your mind) OR victory67 is correct (in his mind) .
You can't BOTH be correct on this issue.

We are not in disagreement on this issue, and this is just more idiocy from you.

Of course the Arab percentage of Palestine reduced from 1922 to 1948, as hundreds of thousands of Jews moved to Palestine.

Damn, read a ******* history book once in your life, please.

 

[Indeependent]

Are you freaking kidding?
That's one of the arguments bolstered by the Kohen Gene..
And now you're going to deny there ever was a First or Second Temple.
Or that it was a fairy tale, including the Roman Conquest.
Or that it's all ancient history.

You are so pathetic.

The so-called Kohain gene only shows common ancestry. It doesn't say where the common ancestor lived. It had no GPS tracking system, you idiot.

So I guess the whole history of mankind starting from Yehoshua through the Roman Conquest was made up in 1948 to get the WBJs out of "Palestine".


And you're calling ME an idiot?

 

[Victory67]

So I guess the whole history of mankind starting from Yehoshua through the Roman Conquest was made up in 1948 to get the WBJs out of "Palestine".


And you're calling ME an idiot?

The Bible is a fantasy book not a history book.

The Kohain gene shows common ancestry from an unnamed individual. There is no info regarding his location. You're an idiot to believe otherwise.

 

[Kondor3]

So I guess the whole history of mankind starting from Yehoshua through the Roman Conquest was made up in 1948 to get the WBJs out of "Palestine".


And you're calling ME an idiot?

The Bible is a fantasy book not a history book.

The Kohain gene shows common ancestry from an unnamed individual. There is no info regarding his location. You're an idiot to believe otherwise.

The Bible is...

1. part history book

2. part chronicle

3. part cultural narration

4. part behavioral guide

5. part morality play

6. part metaphorical lesson-teaching fantasy novel

7. part Hebrew

8. part other people living hearby to the Hebrews in Antiquity

9. part credible

10. part incredible

11. part the philosophical foundation for the spirituality of more than 4,000,000,000 souls around the planet

 

[Victory67]

So I guess the whole history of mankind starting from Yehoshua through the Roman Conquest was made up in 1948 to get the WBJs out of "Palestine".


And you're calling ME an idiot?

The Bible is a fantasy book not a history book.

The Kohain gene shows common ancestry from an unnamed individual. There is no info regarding his location. You're an idiot to believe otherwise.

The Bible is...

1. part history book

2. part chronicle

3. part cultural narration

4. part behavioral guide

5. part morality play

6. part metaphorical lesson-teaching fantasy novel

7. part Hebrew

8. part other people living hearby to the Hebrews in Antiquity

9. part credible

10. part incredible

11. part the philosophical foundation for the spirituality of more than 4,000,000,000 souls around the planet

you forgot

12. part fantasy book.

 

[Indeependent]

vic,
The fact that you can't read Hebrew isn't my problem.
What languages other than English can you read?

 

[Victory67]

vic,
The fact that you can't read Hebrew isn't my problem.
What languages other than English can you read?

Espanol and Deutsch.

 

[Indeependent]

vic,
The fact that you can't read Hebrew isn't my problem.
What languages other than English can you read?

Espanol and Deutsch.

Very good.
I bet with all the Internet resources at your fingertips you couldn't give me five reasonable interpretations of the first verse of the Torah.

I'll go one further...there are NO set verses in the Torah.
The verses are artificial constructs to enable the Spaniards to debate during the Disputations.
The King James Version, which has led to so many bad versions of what you call Fairy Tales, is a HORRIBLE translation.

Of course, I know you don't care, but I felt like typing.

 

[pbel]

the torah is nothing but a handbook on how Tribal mentality allows you to conquer lands from your neighbors and kill them all...

 

[Kondor3]

The Bible is a fantasy book not a history book.

The Kohain gene shows common ancestry from an unnamed individual. There is no info regarding his location. You're an idiot to believe otherwise.

The Bible is...

1. part history book

2. part chronicle

3. part cultural narration

4. part behavioral guide

5. part morality play

6. part metaphorical lesson-teaching fantasy novel

7. part Hebrew

8. part other people living hearby to the Hebrews in Antiquity

9. part credible

10. part incredible

11. part the philosophical foundation for the spirituality of more than 4,000,000,000 souls around the planet

you forgot

12. part fantasy book.

Covered... see No. 6...

 

[Victory67]

Very good.
I bet with all the Internet resources at your fingertips you couldn't give me five reasonable interpretations of the first verse of the Torah.

I'll go one further...there are NO set verses in the Torah.
The verses are artificial constructs to enable the Spaniards to debate during the Disputations.
The King James Version, which has led to so many bad versions of what you call Fairy Tales, is a HORRIBLE translation.

Of course, I know you don't care, but I felt like typing.

Only a fool like you would say a book that has no reliable English translation is legally binding.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just trying to promote Xenophobia and Nativism as a form of justification for Jihadist and Fedayeen activities.

My statement is correct.

(COMMENT)

The original intent is plain and clear. To protect the culture and the society of the Jewish People from the very unhealthy and selfish position of demanding a favored status for certain established inhabitants (Arab Palestinians). You are attempting to portray the Arab Palestinian as the beleaguered victim of the territory, when in fact they are an infestation of Anti-immigration activist using force to defy the UN Partition Plan.

Your statement is far from the truth. If you consider the "Provisional Government" a foreign activity, then that is the same as claiming the Arab Higher Committee a foreign activity of the external Arab League.

But more importantly, the tie to the WZO was a Mandate (Article 4). And that simply was because the intent, well beyond the comprehension or sympathy of the Hostile Arab Palestinians, was to "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."

na·tiv·ism [ney-ti-viz-uhm]
noun
1. the policy of protecting the interests of native inhabitants against those of immigrants.
2. the policy or practice of preserving or reviving an indigenous culture.
3. Philosophy . the doctrine that innate ideas exist.​

It is an unjustified Arab protectionist policy, used by the inferior to shield it from the advancements associated with a heterogeneous society becoming more homogeneous.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Indeependent]

Very good.
I bet with all the Internet resources at your fingertips you couldn't give me five reasonable interpretations of the first verse of the Torah.

I'll go one further...there are NO set verses in the Torah.
The verses are artificial constructs to enable the Spaniards to debate during the Disputations.
The King James Version, which has led to so many bad versions of what you call Fairy Tales, is a HORRIBLE translation.

Of course, I know you don't care, but I felt like typing.

Only a fool like you would say a book that has no reliable English translation is legally binding.

Are there good translations of the Illiad and the Osyssey?
Of course not; you have to learn the original language.

Show me in English where Leah named Judah because she was thanking God.
I dare you.

 

[Victory67]

Are there good translations of the Illiad and the Osyssey?
Of course not; you have to learn the original language.

Show me in English where Leah named Judah because she was thanking God.
I dare you.

Since according to you there is no accurate English, French, or German translation of the Bible, that means its not legally binding as far as the UN or International Law is concerned.

You lose. Take your religious idiocy elsewhere.