I will not Bow!

[Lipush]

Thank you. That is what I said.

None of that would have happened without Israel.

Are you saying the Arab states were justified in cleansing the Jews from their countries ?

No, but it was a response to Israel. It wouldn't have happened without Israel.

Yes, everything is israel's fault.

You pro-Palestinians are all psychos

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you saying the Arab states were justified in cleansing the Jews from their countries ?

No, but it was a response to Israel. It wouldn't have happened without Israel.

Yes, everything is israel's fault.

You pro-Palestinians are all psychos

So you are saying that Jews lived in those countries basically forever and for no reason whatsoever they got up one morning and decided that they hate Jews?

And you think I am nuts?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jerusalem was shared before Israel. Now it is not.

Where do you get this disconnect from reality?

During a certain period before the 1948 war, Jews were forbidden to enter Jerusalem. During the war, the Arabs set up a blockade on 100 000 Jews in Jerusalem, almost staving them.

Someone is in need of a history lesson, and It isn't me.

Mr Tinmore is not only biased, but historically ignorant as well, it seems

Israel's war against Palestine started around the time that the British landed with the Balfour Declaration in its pocket. The war did not "start" in 1948.

 

[toastman]

During a certain period before the 1948 war, Jews were forbidden to enter Jerusalem. During the war, the Arabs set up a blockade on 100 000 Jews in Jerusalem, almost staving them.

Someone is in need of a history lesson, and It isn't me.

Mr Tinmore is not only biased, but historically ignorant as well, it seems

Israel's war against Palestine started around the time that the British landed with the Balfour Declaration in its pocket. The war did not "start" in 1948.

"Israels war against Palestine"

Ya, you're not biased at all....

There was no war against 'Palestine'. Between 1947 until Israel declared independence, it was known as the Mandatory Palestine Civil War, where Jewish and Arab residents fought. There was no war against Palestine. That is the ultimate Arab propaganda.

I already know what your response is going to be...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Someone is in need of a history lesson, and It isn't me.

Mr Tinmore is not only biased, but historically ignorant as well, it seems

Israel's war against Palestine started around the time that the British landed with the Balfour Declaration in its pocket. The war did not "start" in 1948.

"Israels war against Palestine"

Ya, you're not biased at all....

There was no war against 'Palestine'. Between 1947 until Israel declared independence, it was known as the Mandatory Palestine Civil War, where Jewish and Arab residents fought. There was no war against Palestine. That is the ultimate Arab propaganda.

I already know what your response is going to be...

"Between residents" is misleading. It was between the natives and encroaching immigrants.

You can call it a civil war if you want but it really wasn't.

 

[toastman]

Israel's war against Palestine started around the time that the British landed with the Balfour Declaration in its pocket. The war did not "start" in 1948.

"Israels war against Palestine"

Ya, you're not biased at all....

There was no war against 'Palestine'. Between 1947 until Israel declared independence, it was known as the Mandatory Palestine Civil War, where Jewish and Arab residents fought. There was no war against Palestine. That is the ultimate Arab propaganda.

I already know what your response is going to be...

"Between residents" is misleading. It was between the natives and encroaching immigrants.

You can call it a civil war if you want but it really wasn't.

False. Many Arabs from surrounding countries had joined the 'Palestinian' Arab forces. Why did you leave that out?
Both belligerents had some outsiders, but the main fighters were the resident forces

 

[toastman]

And yes, it was a civil war. You cannot just change history and call it what you want.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Israels war against Palestine"

Ya, you're not biased at all....

There was no war against 'Palestine'. Between 1947 until Israel declared independence, it was known as the Mandatory Palestine Civil War, where Jewish and Arab residents fought. There was no war against Palestine. That is the ultimate Arab propaganda.

I already know what your response is going to be...

"Between residents" is misleading. It was between the natives and encroaching immigrants.

You can call it a civil war if you want but it really wasn't.

False. Many Arabs from surrounding countries had joined the 'Palestinian' Arab forces. Why did you leave that out?
Both belligerents had some outsiders, but the main fighters were the resident forces

Because they are merely symptoms of the root problem.

 

[P F Tinmore]

And yes, it was a civil war. You cannot just change history and call it what you want.

I don't.

 

[toastman]

Then show me the online article that you have been reading that discusses the clashes between the 'Palestinian' Arabs and Jews.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Then show me the online article that you have been reading that discusses the clashes between the 'Palestinian' Arabs and Jews.

It is what it is. The Zionists imported foreign settlers by the boatload to take over the country. They started a war and expelled the natives.

Civil war is a misnomer.

 

[Sally]

Then show me the online article that you have been reading that discusses the clashes between the 'Palestinian' Arabs and Jews.

It is what it is. The Zionists imported foreign settlers by the boatload to take over the country. They started a war and expelled the natives.

Civil war is a misnomer.

Hmm, those Egyptians must know what went on if one official was calling the Gazans to come back to Egypt where they belong. Of course Mr. Tinmore will never admit that those Gazans came from Egypt originally. Imagine if the Jews from Europe didn't come and build up the country. Then all those poor Arabs would have stayed in their impoverished surrounding countries because there would have been no jobs for them. Mybe Mr. Tinmore closes his eyes to all the Arabs and other Muslims who have left therir Muslim countries from the Middle East, Africa, and Southeast Asia because their countries are poor and can't supply them with jobs.

 

[toastman]

Then show me the online article that you have been reading that discusses the clashes between the 'Palestinian' Arabs and Jews.

It is what it is. The Zionists imported foreign settlers by the boatload to take over the country. They started a war and expelled the natives.

Civil war is a misnomer.

Everyone called it what it was, a civil war. Thousands of Arab forces from Syria and other countries joined the 'Palestinian Arabs' as well. And you still havent shown me where you are reading this.

And again, there was no country to take over, it was mandated T-E-R-R-I-T-O-R-Y.
The fact that you keep denying this shows how little you know about history.
Why do I even waste my time with you.

 

[MHunterB]

So is the lying 'title' of this asinine thread. Nobody's asking the Palestinians to 'bow'. Enjoy playing with yourself and your little strawman, Tinny.

 

[Phoenall]

No, but it was a response to Israel. It wouldn't have happened without Israel.

Yes, everything is israel's fault.

You pro-Palestinians are all psychos

So you are saying that Jews lived in those countries basically forever and for no reason whatsoever they got up one morning and decided that they hate Jews?

And you think I am nuts?

You are nuts as the truth has been shown many times. The muslims hate the Jews and have done so since Mohamed committed genocide on the Tribe of Jews in medina. From that day on he stated that the Jews were the enemy of islam and will be killed on sight.

 

[Phoenall]

"Between residents" is misleading. It was between the natives and encroaching immigrants.

You can call it a civil war if you want but it really wasn't.

False. Many Arabs from surrounding countries had joined the 'Palestinian' Arab forces. Why did you leave that out?
Both belligerents had some outsiders, but the main fighters were the resident forces

Because they are merely symptoms of the root problem.

And the rooy problem is the commands in the Koran that have seen the MASS MURDER of 10 million Jews since the genocide of the Jewish tribe in medina

 

[Phoenall]

During a certain period before the 1948 war, Jews were forbidden to enter Jerusalem. During the war, the Arabs set up a blockade on 100 000 Jews in Jerusalem, almost staving them.

Someone is in need of a history lesson, and It isn't me.

Mr Tinmore is not only biased, but historically ignorant as well, it seems

Israel's war against Palestine started around the time that the British landed with the Balfour Declaration in its pocket. The war did not "start" in 1948.

Israel did not exist until may 1948, so anything before this time was the arab's obeying the commands in the Koran that tell them to wipe out the Jews

 

[Phoenall]

Then show me the online article that you have been reading that discusses the clashes between the 'Palestinian' Arabs and Jews.

It is what it is. The Zionists imported foreign settlers by the boatload to take over the country. They started a war and expelled the natives.

Civil war is a misnomer.

Yet if you take a look at the records you see that the British stopped all Jewish migration into Palestine while encouraging the muslims to migrate in their thousands.

Jewish vs. Arab Immigration


During World War I, the Jewish population declined because of the war, famine, disease and expulsion. In 1915, approximately 83,000 Jews lived in Palestine among 590,000 Muslim and Christian Arabs. According to the 1922 census, the Jewish population was 84,000, while the Arabs numbered 643,000.4 Thus, the Arab population continued to grow exponentially even while that of the Jews stagnated.

In the mid-1920s, Jewish immigration to Palestine increased primarily because of anti-Jewish economic legislation in Poland and Washington’s imposition of restrictive quotas.5

The record number of immigrants in 1935 (see table) was a response to the growing persecution of Jews in Nazi Germany. The British administration considered this number too large, however, so the Jewish Agency was informed that less than one-third of the quota it asked for would be approved in 1936.6

The British gave in further to Arab demands by announcing in the 1939 White Paper that an independent Arab state would be created within 10 years, and that Jewish immigration was to be limited to 75,000 for the next five years, after which it was to cease altogether. It also forbade land sales to Jews in 95 percent of the territory of Palestine. The Arabs, nevertheless, rejected the proposal.

By contrast, throughout the Mandatory period, Arab immigration was unrestricted. In 1930, the Hope Simpson Commission, sent from London to investigate the 1929 Arab riots, said the British practice of ignoring the uncontrolled illegal Arab immigration from Egypt, Transjordan and Syria had the effect of displacing the prospective Jewish immigrants.7

The British Governor of the Sinai from 1922-36 observed: “This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria, and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.”8

The Peel Commission reported in 1937 that the “shortfall of land is, we consider, due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.”9

British Restrictions on Jewish Immigration to Palestine | Jewish Virtual Library

So who was it again that was migrating to Palestine illegally and causing all the problems ?

 

[aris2chat]

Someone is in need of a history lesson, and It isn't me.

Mr Tinmore is not only biased, but historically ignorant as well, it seems

Israel's war against Palestine started around the time that the British landed with the Balfour Declaration in its pocket. The war did not "start" in 1948.

Israel did not exist until may 1948, so anything before this time was the arab's obeying the commands in the Koran that tell them to wipe out the Jews

The whole face of the map changed after WWI and WWII.
People through out time have been redrawing the map. Every country was created at some time in the past. There was no middle east, with a few autonomous zones.
No palestine, no arabia, UEA, no syria, no iraq.
You can't have the ottoman empire back, so get used to the fact that the region was carved and and now states do exist, if they would stop trying to kill each other.
Neither arabs nor turks care to give the arabs a palestinian state.
Syria started off as five states. They throw off kings and pretend to have elections for dictators and despots.
Tribal/clan fighting have gone on centuries. Last century they were marking their land by who owns which well. Now they have countries to govern.
The formation of Israel was well known. Palestine (region) was under developed, under populated and cost more to govern than it could bring in with taxes.
Jews that lived in the region or jews that were scatted are still tied to Jerusalem. I is the one thing the most identify with. It is the what has kept them united and strong. They care for it, they love it, they will nurture it. Sadly the palestinians just want to spill blood on it, as if salting the land so nothing but hate can grow.
Israel has as much right to exist as any other in the world. Arabs, christians, druze, whatever, they have learned to united as one people. The only thing apartheid is the palestinians refusal to recognize Israel.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

My own feelings on the acculturation process is a fact of humanity, "No man is an island to himself"... *80% of the present Palestinian genome has roots in ancient Israel...However, I believe a two state solution will lead to many centuries of peace and prosperity for a tiny part of Arabia called Palestine...

Prosperity unlike acculturation spreads like wild-fire, and prosperity brings peace.

Israel/Palestine is part of an area of Asia called the Middle East. It's not part of the peninsula called Arabia. Study some geography.

I never said Arabian Peninsula, but thanks for your spell check..


Arabian Peninsula - Wiktionary

the Arabian Peninsula
1.A peninsula in the Middle East, bordered on by Jordan, the Syrian desert and Iraq to the north, the Persian Gulf to the northeast, the Gulf of Oman to the east, the Arabian Sea (part of the Indian Ocean) to the south (southeast), the Gulf of Aden to the south, the Red Sea to the west (southwest) extending north into the Gulf of Aqaba, and north along the Red Sea Rift to the Mediterranean Sea on the west (northwest). It consists mainly of Saudi Arabia, and may be geologically defined as the Arabian plate, also as the Arabian subcontinent.

I said Arabian peninsula to point you in the right direction. To incorrectly call Israel a part of Arabia gives the impression that Israel is just another part of the already huge Arab landmass. However, Israel was conquered by Arabian thieves, coming out of Arabia, some time ago. Then it passed to Crusaders, Turks, Brits, and finally Jews.