I will not Bow!

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I don't think that was said at all.

Are you saying that Israel has no current intelligent and articulate people suitable for debate?

(COMMENT)

• The big question is: What would you debate?

Much of any Palestinian argument is based upon rights and protections that the Allied Powers fought for and extended to the Palestinian. Not a single contribution was ever made by the Arab-Palestinian or its ancestral linage.

• General Assembly Resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948 - International Bill of Human Rights
• Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960
• International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (General Assembly resolution 2200A (XXI) of 16 December 1966)
• Universal realization of the right of peoples to self-determination (A/RES/49/148 23 December 1994)
• United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (General Assembly 61/295 13 September 2007)

Whether we talk about the basic mandates of the San Remo Convention (1920), the adoption of the November Resolution of 1947, or the Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970), they are all concepts and codifications of ideas that are not consistent with the Arab World. They are, as YOU have often pointed out, something the "foreigners" did; not decisions the Arabs made or even the Palestinians made. Such a discussion would avoid the central question:

• Is the Arab World, any part of it, but to focus on the Israel-Palestinian Issue, truly ready for democracy?

If we look at the the League of Arab States, what do we see?

Do we see a wide ranging picture of success, demonstrating that the Arab Culture can unequivocally stand on its own two feet and further the cause of peace and stability?

• Is it a picture of peace and stability?
• Or do we see a culture in chaos?

Even today, as we look at a country like Lebanon, we see just how dangerous and self destructive the Arab can be.

(Reuters) - An influx of almost 1 million refugees from Syria into neighboring Lebanon poses a serious threat to the already fragile country, but donor nations may not grasp the potential impact of further destabilization, a U.N. official said on Thursday.

"There is not a single country in the world today that is shouldering as much in proportion to its size as Lebanon," said Ninette Kelley, regional representative for Lebanon for the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

"If this country is not bolstered, then the very real prospect of it collapsing and the conflict of Syria spreading full force to Lebanon becomes much more likely," she said during a visit to Washington.

Last month, top U.N. officials said that as Syria's grinding conflict enters its fourth bloody year, Syrians are set to replace Afghans as the world's largest refugee population.

SOURCE: BY MISSY RYAN WASHINGTON Thu Mar 27, 2014

The Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) has, for more that half a century, grooming generation after generation in the medieval and hostile philosophies of the 16th Century Arab. Year after year, the most productive export the HoAP has generated is the short range terrorist and insurgent. And it has a stack of generations that know nothing more than to create turmoil and havoc. It is not a nation or a culture that is founded on the principles of peace, prosperity, trade and commerce. It is a nation that has, for more nearly a 100 years, began by teaching their children the art of the professional victim and it begins by a class in throwing rocks ---> and progresses through their life ---> to launching rockets. They simply don't know any better.

The issues are much more basic than generally thought of in Treaty, Law, and strict compliance terms. Such a debate has to separate what the HoAP believes culturally, and what they attempt to use as justification for the continued struggle that they initiated.

One has to come to terms with whether or not the HoAP can actually handle a democracy that can peacefully establish relations with non-Arab neighbors and operate a country that can peacefully transition from one periodically elected government - to the next, without going into a major meltdown and upsetting the regional balance of peace. Clearly, several countries in the Arab League cannot accomplish that.

The question becomes then --- if there is no reasonable expectation that the Palestinians cannot establish a nation that can stand on its own, in peace and tranquility, without causing a regional disruption, SHOULD it be allowed to establish a nation like Syria, Iraq, Iran, and now Egypt and Lebanon, which goes into chaos and meltdown periodically?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I don't think that was said at all.

Are you saying that Israel has no current intelligent and articulate people suitable for debate?

(COMMENT)

• The big question is: What would you debate?

Much of any Palestinian argument is based upon rights and protections that the Allied Powers fought for and extended to the Palestinian. Not a single contribution was ever made by the Arab-Palestinian or its ancestral linage.

• General Assembly Resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948 - International Bill of Human Rights
• Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960
• International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (General Assembly resolution 2200A (XXI) of 16 December 1966)
• Universal realization of the right of peoples to self-determination (A/RES/49/148 23 December 1994)
• United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (General Assembly 61/295 13 September 2007)

Whether we talk about the basic mandates of the San Remo Convention (1920), the adoption of the November Resolution of 1947, or the Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970), they are all concepts and codifications of ideas that are not consistent with the Arab World. They are, as YOU have often pointed out, something the "foreigners" did; not decisions the Arabs made or even the Palestinians made. Such a discussion would avoid the central question:

• Is the Arab World, any part of it, but to focus on the Israel-Palestinian Issue, truly ready for democracy?

If we look at the the League of Arab States, what do we see?

Do we see a wide ranging picture of success, demonstrating that the Arab Culture can unequivocally stand on its own two feet and further the cause of peace and stability?

• Is it a picture of peace and stability?
• Or do we see a culture in chaos?

Even today, as we look at a country like Lebanon, we see just how dangerous and self destructive the Arab can be.

(Reuters) - An influx of almost 1 million refugees from Syria into neighboring Lebanon poses a serious threat to the already fragile country, but donor nations may not grasp the potential impact of further destabilization, a U.N. official said on Thursday.

"There is not a single country in the world today that is shouldering as much in proportion to its size as Lebanon," said Ninette Kelley, regional representative for Lebanon for the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

"If this country is not bolstered, then the very real prospect of it collapsing and the conflict of Syria spreading full force to Lebanon becomes much more likely," she said during a visit to Washington.

Last month, top U.N. officials said that as Syria's grinding conflict enters its fourth bloody year, Syrians are set to replace Afghans as the world's largest refugee population.

SOURCE: BY MISSY RYAN WASHINGTON Thu Mar 27, 2014

The Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) has, for more that half a century, grooming generation after generation in the medieval and hostile philosophies of the 16th Century Arab. Year after year, the most productive export the HoAP has generated is the short range terrorist and insurgent. And it has a stack of generations that know nothing more than to create turmoil and havoc. It is not a nation or a culture that is founded on the principles of peace, prosperity, trade and commerce. It is a nation that has, for more nearly a 100 years, began by teaching their children the art of the professional victim and it begins by a class in throwing rocks ---> and progresses through their life ---> to launching rockets. They simply don't know any better.

The issues are much more basic than generally thought of in Treaty, Law, and strict compliance terms. Such a debate has to separate what the HoAP believes culturally, and what they attempt to use as justification for the continued struggle that they initiated.

One has to come to terms with whether or not the HoAP can actually handle a democracy that can peacefully establish relations with non-Arab neighbors and operate a country that can peacefully transition from one periodically elected government - to the next, without going into a major meltdown and upsetting the regional balance of peace. Clearly, several countries in the Arab League cannot accomplish that.

The question becomes then --- if there is no reasonable expectation that the Palestinians cannot establish a nation that can stand on its own, in peace and tranquility, without causing a regional disruption, SHOULD it be allowed to establish a nation like Syria, Iraq, Iran, and now Egypt and Lebanon, which goes into chaos and meltdown periodically?

Most Respectfully,
R

You are one disgusting racist, that's for sure.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I don't think that was said at all.

Are you saying that Israel has no current intelligent and articulate people suitable for debate?

(COMMENT)

• The big question is: What would you debate?

Much of any Palestinian argument is based upon rights and protections that the Allied Powers fought for and extended to the Palestinian. Not a single contribution was ever made by the Arab-Palestinian or its ancestral linage.

• General Assembly Resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948 - International Bill of Human Rights
• Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960
• International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (General Assembly resolution 2200A (XXI) of 16 December 1966)
• Universal realization of the right of peoples to self-determination (A/RES/49/148 23 December 1994)
• United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (General Assembly 61/295 13 September 2007)

Whether we talk about the basic mandates of the San Remo Convention (1920), the adoption of the November Resolution of 1947, or the Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970), they are all concepts and codifications of ideas that are not consistent with the Arab World. They are, as YOU have often pointed out, something the "foreigners" did; not decisions the Arabs made or even the Palestinians made. Such a discussion would avoid the central question:

• Is the Arab World, any part of it, but to focus on the Israel-Palestinian Issue, truly ready for democracy?

If we look at the the League of Arab States, what do we see?

Do we see a wide ranging picture of success, demonstrating that the Arab Culture can unequivocally stand on its own two feet and further the cause of peace and stability?

• Is it a picture of peace and stability?
• Or do we see a culture in chaos?

Even today, as we look at a country like Lebanon, we see just how dangerous and self destructive the Arab can be.

(Reuters) - An influx of almost 1 million refugees from Syria into neighboring Lebanon poses a serious threat to the already fragile country, but donor nations may not grasp the potential impact of further destabilization, a U.N. official said on Thursday.

"There is not a single country in the world today that is shouldering as much in proportion to its size as Lebanon," said Ninette Kelley, regional representative for Lebanon for the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

"If this country is not bolstered, then the very real prospect of it collapsing and the conflict of Syria spreading full force to Lebanon becomes much more likely," she said during a visit to Washington.

Last month, top U.N. officials said that as Syria's grinding conflict enters its fourth bloody year, Syrians are set to replace Afghans as the world's largest refugee population.

SOURCE: BY MISSY RYAN WASHINGTON Thu Mar 27, 2014

The Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) has, for more that half a century, grooming generation after generation in the medieval and hostile philosophies of the 16th Century Arab. Year after year, the most productive export the HoAP has generated is the short range terrorist and insurgent. And it has a stack of generations that know nothing more than to create turmoil and havoc. It is not a nation or a culture that is founded on the principles of peace, prosperity, trade and commerce. It is a nation that has, for more nearly a 100 years, began by teaching their children the art of the professional victim and it begins by a class in throwing rocks ---> and progresses through their life ---> to launching rockets. They simply don't know any better.

The issues are much more basic than generally thought of in Treaty, Law, and strict compliance terms. Such a debate has to separate what the HoAP believes culturally, and what they attempt to use as justification for the continued struggle that they initiated.

One has to come to terms with whether or not the HoAP can actually handle a democracy that can peacefully establish relations with non-Arab neighbors and operate a country that can peacefully transition from one periodically elected government - to the next, without going into a major meltdown and upsetting the regional balance of peace. Clearly, several countries in the Arab League cannot accomplish that.

The question becomes then --- if there is no reasonable expectation that the Palestinians cannot establish a nation that can stand on its own, in peace and tranquility, without causing a regional disruption, SHOULD it be allowed to establish a nation like Syria, Iraq, Iran, and now Egypt and Lebanon, which goes into chaos and meltdown periodically?

Most Respectfully,
R

You are one disgusting racist, that's for sure.

A few questions for you.

What race is he discriminating against?
What specific part of his post do you see as racist?

 

[aris2chat]

Except she is living in her homeland. Palestinian Jews can live in Palestine.

Israel is not the palestinian state that confirms palestinian citizenship on it's people.
In Israel the arabs are Israelis, not palestinians. If she is in her homeland then she should say she is Israeli. If she does not like being Israel, she has the right to leave.

As for palestinian jews...... Abbas won't accept any. The PA/palestine is to be judenrein.

Jews were kicked out the the WB by Jordan. There are no palestinian jews, they had to go to Israel or elsewhere, or convert.

It would be logical to give the jews palestinian citizenship, but that option was rejected.
No jews in palestine! It does not matter that jews used to live and own property before Jordan annex the WB. It does not matter that settlements were build on land that was purchased, unregistered or state land. Abbas, because of extremist pressure will have no palestinian jews.

What does that have to do with anything?

She is living in her homeland.

and people in Croatia are no longer Ukrainian but Russian now.
Arabs in Israel are not palestinians, they are Israeli. Those that are palestinian are under the authority of the PA and can run for office in the PA. They are not eligible to vote or run for office in Israel.
It is like Canadians cannot vote or run for office in the US and vs.
Unless she is more than 65 yr old, her homeland is Israel. If older than she was born in the mandate, which no longer exists. If she was born in a camp as was part of a family reunification, she became an Israeli and is no longer a palestinian.
As a member of the Knesset, her homeland is Israel. She is an Israeli, not a palestinian.

 

[toastman]

Montelatici, you are such a hoot. Rocco has never said anything racist, anti Arab or anti Islam, yet he always attacks his posts.
It's become obvious that he can't handle the simple truths about the Palestinians, so he resorts to person attack against the most intelligent and least hateful poster here.

Thanks monti AKA Defeat67 for showing us your true colors.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

I've read the previous posting; several times now. I fail to see how this is --- in any way --- accurate.

You are one disgusting racist, that's for sure.

(COMMENT)

But, if you can point-out how I furthered a doctrine that a certain human race (what are they) is superior to any or all others (who did I say was superior to whom), I'll reconsider.

Do you have a particular counter-point?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

Israel is not the palestinian state that confirms palestinian citizenship on it's people.
In Israel the arabs are Israelis, not palestinians. If she is in her homeland then she should say she is Israeli. If she does not like being Israel, she has the right to leave.

As for palestinian jews...... Abbas won't accept any. The PA/palestine is to be judenrein.

Jews were kicked out the the WB by Jordan. There are no palestinian jews, they had to go to Israel or elsewhere, or convert.

It would be logical to give the jews palestinian citizenship, but that option was rejected.
No jews in palestine! It does not matter that jews used to live and own property before Jordan annex the WB. It does not matter that settlements were build on land that was purchased, unregistered or state land. Abbas, because of extremist pressure will have no palestinian jews.

What does that have to do with anything?

She is living in her homeland.

and people in Croatia are no longer Ukrainian but Russian now.
Arabs in Israel are not palestinians, they are Israeli. Those that are palestinian are under the authority of the PA and can run for office in the PA. They are not eligible to vote or run for office in Israel.
It is like Canadians cannot vote or run for office in the US and vs.
Unless she is more than 65 yr old, her homeland is Israel. If older than she was born in the mandate, which no longer exists. If she was born in a camp as was part of a family reunification, she became an Israeli and is no longer a palestinian.
As a member of the Knesset, her homeland is Israel. She is an Israeli, not a palestinian.

It is like the non-whites under the control of white South African government could not vote in South Africa because they were citizens of various Bantustans that also under the control of white South Africa.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Phoenall
It does not matter if they are European or not they can trace their ancestry back to Israel pre diaspora from DNA haplotypes.

Put down the crack pipe, dude!!

These clowns are about as "semitic" as Emperor Hiroito of Japan.

 

[Sally]

What does that have to do with anything?

She is living in her homeland.

and people in Croatia are no longer Ukrainian but Russian now.
Arabs in Israel are not palestinians, they are Israeli. Those that are palestinian are under the authority of the PA and can run for office in the PA. They are not eligible to vote or run for office in Israel.
It is like Canadians cannot vote or run for office in the US and vs.
Unless she is more than 65 yr old, her homeland is Israel. If older than she was born in the mandate, which no longer exists. If she was born in a camp as was part of a family reunification, she became an Israeli and is no longer a palestinian.
As a member of the Knesset, her homeland is Israel. She is an Israeli, not a palestinian.

It is like the non-whites under the control of white South African government could not vote in South Africa because they were citizens of various Bantustans that also under the control of white South Africa.

Haniya thinks she is fooling the viewers that she actually cared about the poor treatment of the Blacks in South Africa. The only reason South Africa is being brought up by Muslims and their fellow travelers is that they are using the Apartheid in South Africa and dragging this Apartheid there to the "Palestinians" as a way to demonize the Israeli Jews -- nothing more, nothing less. I wish we could have sent Haniya to Soweto to see what Apartheid really is.

 

[José]

That sorry bunch of albinos pathetically claiming Palestine as their ancient "homeland" would be a good joke if it hadn't cost the lives of so many real natives of the land in the last 100 years.

 

[Sally]

That sorry bunch of albinos pathetically claiming Palestine as their ancient "homeland" would be a good joke if it hadn't cost the lives of so many real natives of the land in the last 100 years.

Why, Jose, your good buddies have murdered millions of innocent people. I guess you just close your eyes to this. Has anyone even seen Jose mention that over 150,000 have been killed in Syria alone in the last three years? Of course not, because Jose remains comatose to what his friends are doing since the Jews are not involved. You are fooling no one, Jose.

 

[aris2chat]

and people in Croatia are no longer Ukrainian but Russian now.
Arabs in Israel are not palestinians, they are Israeli. Those that are palestinian are under the authority of the PA and can run for office in the PA. They are not eligible to vote or run for office in Israel.
It is like Canadians cannot vote or run for office in the US and vs.
Unless she is more than 65 yr old, her homeland is Israel. If older than she was born in the mandate, which no longer exists. If she was born in a camp as was part of a family reunification, she became an Israeli and is no longer a palestinian.
As a member of the Knesset, her homeland is Israel. She is an Israeli, not a palestinian.

It is like the non-whites under the control of white South African government could not vote in South Africa because they were citizens of various Bantustans that also under the control of white South Africa.

Haniya thinks she is fooling the viewers that she actually cared about the poor treatment of the Blacks in South Africa. The only reason South Africa is being brought up by Muslims and their fellow travelers is that they are using the Apartheid in South Africa and dragging this Apartheid there to the "Palestinians" as a way to demonize the Israeli Jews -- nothing more, nothing less. I wish we could have sent Haniya to Soweto to see what Apartheid really is.

Representation if government can take many forms depending on the country.
In Lebanon, people vote according to their religion and their family's town or origin. Certain positions are limited to certain religions or sects. It maintains a balance and prevents change in demographics from shoving minorities out.
England has a house of lords and a house of commons. In Australia there is separate representation of indigenous people. Canada has French, English and native divisions.
Every country is different. Even the US restricts voting in primaries to registered parties, you can't vote across party lines. There are also people who are not allowed to vote, they don't have the right to representation. People can only vote for candidates on their state ballot, not ballots from other states. It is not apartheid to say someone registered in CA cannot vote in a FL election, or pay different taxes or that laws vary in different areas.
Middle east is not the US. Israel is not Saudi Arabia. Palestinians are not Israeli. With regards to palestinians WB is not gaza and those in the camps differ from the PA.

 

[Phoenall]

It was Jordan not the Palestinians who expelled the Jews. You have to remember that Israel and Jordan had an agreement that the West Bank would be given to Jordan if Jordan did not attack Israel in the upcoming 1948 war.

Can I have a link for that?

"Jordan withdrew its forces from its front posts overlooking the Sharon plain. In return, Israel agreed to allow Jordanian forces to take over positions in the West Bank previously held by Iraqi forces......The intended international enclave of Jerusalem was divided between Israel and Jordan. The Jordanians immediately expelled all the Jewish residents of East Jerusalem."

Jordanian occupation of the West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So were does it say that the Palestinians did not assist in the expulsion of the Jews from all of Jerusalem ?

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I don't think that was said at all.

Are you saying that Israel has no current intelligent and articulate people suitable for debate?

(COMMENT)

• The big question is: What would you debate?

Much of any Palestinian argument is based upon rights and protections that the Allied Powers fought for and extended to the Palestinian. Not a single contribution was ever made by the Arab-Palestinian or its ancestral linage.

• General Assembly Resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948 - International Bill of Human Rights
• Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960
• International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (General Assembly resolution 2200A (XXI) of 16 December 1966)
• Universal realization of the right of peoples to self-determination (A/RES/49/148 23 December 1994)
• United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (General Assembly 61/295 13 September 2007)

Whether we talk about the basic mandates of the San Remo Convention (1920), the adoption of the November Resolution of 1947, or the Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970), they are all concepts and codifications of ideas that are not consistent with the Arab World. They are, as YOU have often pointed out, something the "foreigners" did; not decisions the Arabs made or even the Palestinians made. Such a discussion would avoid the central question:

• Is the Arab World, any part of it, but to focus on the Israel-Palestinian Issue, truly ready for democracy?

If we look at the the League of Arab States, what do we see?

Do we see a wide ranging picture of success, demonstrating that the Arab Culture can unequivocally stand on its own two feet and further the cause of peace and stability?

• Is it a picture of peace and stability?
• Or do we see a culture in chaos?

Even today, as we look at a country like Lebanon, we see just how dangerous and self destructive the Arab can be.

(Reuters) - An influx of almost 1 million refugees from Syria into neighboring Lebanon poses a serious threat to the already fragile country, but donor nations may not grasp the potential impact of further destabilization, a U.N. official said on Thursday.

"There is not a single country in the world today that is shouldering as much in proportion to its size as Lebanon," said Ninette Kelley, regional representative for Lebanon for the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

"If this country is not bolstered, then the very real prospect of it collapsing and the conflict of Syria spreading full force to Lebanon becomes much more likely," she said during a visit to Washington.

Last month, top U.N. officials said that as Syria's grinding conflict enters its fourth bloody year, Syrians are set to replace Afghans as the world's largest refugee population.

SOURCE: BY MISSY RYAN WASHINGTON Thu Mar 27, 2014

The Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) has, for more that half a century, grooming generation after generation in the medieval and hostile philosophies of the 16th Century Arab. Year after year, the most productive export the HoAP has generated is the short range terrorist and insurgent. And it has a stack of generations that know nothing more than to create turmoil and havoc. It is not a nation or a culture that is founded on the principles of peace, prosperity, trade and commerce. It is a nation that has, for more nearly a 100 years, began by teaching their children the art of the professional victim and it begins by a class in throwing rocks ---> and progresses through their life ---> to launching rockets. They simply don't know any better.

The issues are much more basic than generally thought of in Treaty, Law, and strict compliance terms. Such a debate has to separate what the HoAP believes culturally, and what they attempt to use as justification for the continued struggle that they initiated.

One has to come to terms with whether or not the HoAP can actually handle a democracy that can peacefully establish relations with non-Arab neighbors and operate a country that can peacefully transition from one periodically elected government - to the next, without going into a major meltdown and upsetting the regional balance of peace. Clearly, several countries in the Arab League cannot accomplish that.

The question becomes then --- if there is no reasonable expectation that the Palestinians cannot establish a nation that can stand on its own, in peace and tranquility, without causing a regional disruption, SHOULD it be allowed to establish a nation like Syria, Iraq, Iran, and now Egypt and Lebanon, which goes into chaos and meltdown periodically?

Most Respectfully,
R

You are one disgusting racist, that's for sure.

Where is the racism in this reply ?

 

[Phoenall]

What does that have to do with anything?

She is living in her homeland.

and people in Croatia are no longer Ukrainian but Russian now.
Arabs in Israel are not palestinians, they are Israeli. Those that are palestinian are under the authority of the PA and can run for office in the PA. They are not eligible to vote or run for office in Israel.
It is like Canadians cannot vote or run for office in the US and vs.
Unless she is more than 65 yr old, her homeland is Israel. If older than she was born in the mandate, which no longer exists. If she was born in a camp as was part of a family reunification, she became an Israeli and is no longer a palestinian.
As a member of the Knesset, her homeland is Israel. She is an Israeli, not a palestinian.

It is like the non-whites under the control of white South African government could not vote in South Africa because they were citizens of various Bantustans that also under the control of white South Africa.

IRRELEVENT as she was elected by Israelis to represent them in the Israeli parliament, For this to happen she had to be Israeli. If she was palestinian then she would not have been eligible for election and would be in Israel illegally. Her homeland of May 1948 was Israel and not Palestine as that did not exist before 1988 under International law. Any arab living in Israel that considers themselves Palestinian should be deported from Israel and all their goods forfeited.

 

[Phoenall]

Originally posted by Phoenall
It does not matter if they are European or not they can trace their ancestry back to Israel pre diaspora from DNA haplotypes.

Put down the crack pipe, dude!!

These clowns are about as "semitic" as Emperor Hiroito of Japan.

Have you the results of their DNA tests to back up your claim ?

They are Jews and under the terms of the Mandate and Israeli law they can migrate to Israel if they so want.

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, et al,

I've read the previous posting; several times now. I fail to see how this is --- in any way --- accurate.

You are one disgusting racist, that's for sure.

(COMMENT)

But, if you can point-out how I furthered a doctrine that a certain human race (what are they) is superior to any or all others (who did I say was superior to whom), I'll reconsider.

Do you have a particular counter-point?

Most Respectfully,
R

Firstly, "Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial."

Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Secondly, What do think of the Irish? Though often starving, they fought as terrorists or freedom fighters (depending on one's point of view) losing every war against the Protestant settlers for centuries. The British referred to the Hostile Irish Catholics (HoIC) in much the same way you refer to the HoAP. I just found a few anti-Irish quotes from long ago and recnt:

"They are all papists by profession but in the same so blindingly and brutishly informed that you would rather think them atheists or infidels". "

"Great force must be the instrument but famine must be the means, for till Ireland be famished it cannot be subdued. ."

And quite recently:

In 2002, English journalist Julie Burchill wrote a column in The Guardian where she described Ireland as being synonymous with "child molestation, Nazi-sympathising, and the oppression of women."

Sound familiar?

Anti-Irish sentiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Point is, today those quotes are recognized as racist by almost anyone except maybe an Ulsterman. What you are writing about the non-Jews of Palestine is equally racist.

 

[Hossfly]

The Palestinians started a war?

Where did you get that?

Holy Hairsplitting Batman!!!

Arabs. Muslims. Brown skinned carpet kissers. Whatever. They're all one and the same.

So, you give your land back to the indians yet?

I just love this logic...The way it works is through Demographics...Although America managed to decimate the Native peoples, their cousins from South America are slowly getting it back.

For example Texas recently became a Hispanic majority State...Demographers project Hispanics to be a majority in the USA within 50 years.

Yes the Indians are getting it back. Press one for Spanish...

Israel should learn that Demographics do their silent work at a steady pace.

The big difference, Jarhead, is the Hispanics haven't threatened to run the Texicans into the sea or make a charter to murder all non-Hispanics in Texas. In fact, we Texans get along with the Hispanics pretty well. I know there is a heap of inter-marriages so you can toss out that part of your "demographics".

 

[Kondor3]

Originally posted by Phoenall
It does not matter if they are European or not they can trace their ancestry back to Israel pre diaspora from DNA haplotypes.

Put down the crack pipe, dude!!

These clowns are about as "semitic" as Emperor Hiroito of Japan.

Have you the results of their DNA tests to back up your claim ?

They are Jews and under the terms of the Mandate and Israeli law they can migrate to Israel if they so want.

Clowns?

How are these people clowns?

I agree that they don't entirely conform to stereotypical Jewish appearances, but...

Do we know their ethnic origins?

Are they the descendants of non-Hebrew Jewish converts?

Are they the descendants of the original Hebrew Jewish tribes and Diaspora?

Are they hybrids, and a mixture of the two?

Considering the mobility of populations and their wide-ranging admixture over the centuries, I think I'd want to wait for DNA test results, actually.

 

[Sally]

Put down the crack pipe, dude!!

These clowns are about as "semitic" as Emperor Hiroito of Japan.

Have you the results of their DNA tests to back up your claim ?

They are Jews and under the terms of the Mandate and Israeli law they can migrate to Israel if they so want.

Clowns?

How are these people clowns?

I agree that they don't entirely conform to stereotypical Jewish appearances, but...

Do we know their ethnic origins?

Are they the descendants of non-Hebrew Jewish converts?

Are they the descendants of the original Hebrew Jewish tribes and Diaspora?

Are they hybrids, and a mixture of the two?

Considering the mobility of populations and their wide-ranging admixture over the centuries, I think I'd want to wait for DNA test results, actually.

King David had red hair just like the kid in the picture. DNA tests really show a lot about a person's origin. I was readubg about a Black man here in Los Angeles who took a DNA test and he found out that his roots were actually from a different part of Africa than he thought there were, and the DNA results showed that he was mainly from an Ashkenazi woman. Don't forget that supposedly we all came out of Africa from one man and one women (who didn't even live at the same time), and the further our ancestors moved away from the Equator, the lighter they became. Jose, himself, should take a DNA test and he might find out that he has Jewish roots. Many Hispanics in the American Southwest are getting DNA tests to see if they have Jewish roots. Now they understand why there was always a clean white tablecloth with candles on Friday nights (a custom that apparently went on for generations and generations). Some of them have become Orthodox. A priest is now wearing a Star of David with his Crucifix. Even the Rabbi in Tijuana, Mexico found out he was actually Jewish and consequently went to Rabbinical School.