I will not Bow!

[pbel]

I have something not only more interesting than that but far more relevant to your post than yours is to mine:

id·i·ot
noun: idiot;
1. a stupid person.
synonyms: fool, ass, halfwit, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, cretin, moron, imbecile, simpleton; More
informaldope, ninny, nincompoop, chump, dimwit, dumbo, dummy, dum-dum, loon, dork, sap, jackass, blockhead, jughead, bonehead, knucklehead, fathead, butthead, numbskull, numbnuts, dumb-ass, doofus, clod, dunderhead, ditz, lummox, knuckle-dragger, dipstick, thickhead, meathead, meatball, wooden-head, airhead, pinhead, lamer, lamebrain, peabrain, birdbrain, mouth-breather, scissorbill, jerk, nerd, donkey, nitwit, twit, boob, twerp, hoser, schmuck, bozo, turkey, chowderhead, dingbat, mook;

A beautiful Selfie Sniffer, it show how ugly you are, but then: I love punching you in the nose, even when I miss, I always come close.

Pathetic, really pathetic, Pbel, that you are repeating the exact same nonsense that you had also repeated ad nauseam years ago. You really look very childish with this nonsense. If you dislike Sayit because he disagrees with your views, surely you can come up with something new than the same old, same old. Maybe people in your real life have punched you in the head too many times.

Quite the contrary, there are tons of posters on this board that I like and respect. Sniff is machine-like, stiff hateful and manipulates the Zionist choir with its pretense of knowledge.

Pity. Maybe you're right. Sniffer sounds cuddly...Do you have any suggestions? Or anyone?

 

[Sally]

A beautiful Selfie Sniffer, it show how ugly you are, but then: I love punching you in the nose, even when I miss, I always come close.

Pathetic, really pathetic, Pbel, that you are repeating the exact same nonsense that you had also repeated ad nauseam years ago. You really look very childish with this nonsense. If you dislike Sayit because he disagrees with your views, surely you can come up with something new than the same old, same old. Maybe people in your real life have punched you in the head too many times.

Quite the contrary, there are tons of posters on this board that I like and respect. Sniff is machine-like, stiff hateful and manipulates the Zionist choir with its pretense of knowledge.

Pity. Maybe you're right. Sniffer sounds cuddly...Do you have any suggestions? Or anyone?

I would suggest that you give up all the silly stuff that you have posted so many times for years. I am grateful that we don't have that young female Jewish police officer posting or you would go into your donut shop routine ad nauseam when she disagreed with you. By the way, I am willing to bet that Sayit is much more intelligent and successful in real life than you are. You may disagree with me, but that is the way I feel.

 

[pbel]

Pathetic, really pathetic, Pbel, that you are repeating the exact same nonsense that you had also repeated ad nauseam years ago. You really look very childish with this nonsense. If you dislike Sayit because he disagrees with your views, surely you can come up with something new than the same old, same old. Maybe people in your real life have punched you in the head too many times.

Quite the contrary, there are tons of posters on this board that I like and respect. Sniff is machine-like, stiff hateful and manipulates the Zionist choir with its pretense of knowledge.

Pity. Maybe you're right. Sniffer sounds cuddly...Do you have any suggestions? Or anyone?

I would suggest that you give up all the silly stuff that you have posted so many times for years. I am grateful that we don't have that young female Jewish police officer posting or you would go into your donut shop routine ad nauseam when she disagreed with you. By the way, I am willing to bet that Sayit is much more intelligent and successful in real life than you are. You may disagree with me, but that is the way I feel.

It all depends on what you think success is, if its money he might win, if its chess, it doesn't stand a chance.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

I think you must have misread something I wrote.

From YOUR source:

Racism is actions, practices or beliefs, or social or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently. While most conceptualizations of racism include the notion of "race based discrimination", the exact definition is controversial both because there is little scholarly agreement about the meaning of the concept "race", and because there is also little agreement about what does and does not constitute discrimination.

Cultural relativism is the assertion that human values, far from being universal, vary a great deal according to different cultural perspectives. Some would apply this relativism to the promotion, protection, interpretation and application of human rights which could be interpreted differently within different cultural, ethnic and religious traditions. In other words, according to this view, human rights are culturally relative rather than universal.

Taken to its extreme, this relativism would pose a dangerous threat to the effectiveness of international law and the international system of human rights that has been painstakingly contructed over the decades. If cultural tradition alone governs State compliance with international standards, then widespread disregard, abuse and violation of human rights would be given legitimacy.

Accordingly, the promotion and protection of human rights perceived as culturally relative would only be subject to State discretion, rather than international legal imperative. By rejecting or disregarding their legal obligation to promote and protect universal human rights, States advocating cultural relativism could raise their own cultural norms and particularities above international law and standards.

SOURCE: UN Human Rights Commission

montelatici, et al,

I've read the previous posting; several times now. I fail to see how this is --- in any way --- accurate.

You are one disgusting racist, that's for sure.

(COMMENT)

But, if you can point-out how I furthered a doctrine that a certain human race (what are they) is superior to any or all others (who did I say was superior to whom), I'll reconsider.

Do you have a particular counter-point?

Most Respectfully,
R

Firstly, "Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial."

Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Secondly, What do think of the Irish? Though often starving, they fought as terrorists or freedom fighters (depending on one's point of view) losing every war against the Protestant settlers for centuries. The British referred to the Hostile Irish Catholics (HoIC) in much the same way you refer to the HoAP. I just found a few anti-Irish quotes from long ago and recnt:

"They are all papists by profession but in the same so blindingly and brutishly informed that you would rather think them atheists or infidels". "

"Great force must be the instrument but famine must be the means, for till Ireland be famished it cannot be subdued. ."

And quite recently:

In 2002, English journalist Julie Burchill wrote a column in The Guardian where she described Ireland as being synonymous with "child molestation, Nazi-sympathising, and the oppression of women."

Sound familiar?

Anti-Irish sentiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Point is, today those quotes are recognized as racist by almost anyone except maybe an Ulsterman. What you are writing about the non-Jews of Palestine is equally racist.

(COMMENT)

First, I was not citing Arab discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, but pointing out that there are cultural differences. This is a fact, not an accusation. And nothing in the Posting #3721 that remotely suggests that some human right of the HoAP (Hostile Arab Palestinian) should be denied simply because of some racial or ethnic difference. By the same token nothing is racist about pointing out cultural differences. If the Palestinian self-describes themselves as Jihadist or Fedayeen, then they are by definition --- Hostile. If the Palestinian Palestinian self-describes themselves as a people dedicated to Jihad and armed struggle, then they are by definition --- Hostile. If the Palestinian have a culture that openly organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating offensive acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens, then they are by definition --- Hostile. If the Palestinian have a culture that openly trains and encourages their children to recognize another culture as a enemy aggressor, and participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating offensive acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens, then they are by definition --- Hostile.

There is nothing racist about recognizing the cultural diversity, the differences that are open, documented and readily recognizable. These are differences that the HoAP openly parade in public demonstrations. They openly espouse these concepts of Jihad and armed struggle in a multitude of colorful ways; as well as action and deed. There is absolutely nothing wrong in pointing out something that they (the HoAP, including yourself) promote everyday. (Hamas, Islamic Jihad call for a third intifada By KHALED ABU TOAMEH 09/26/2013 22:43 OR Senior Hamas Official: The Resistance Is Entitled To Attack Israel’s Embassies, Interests, And Officials Worldwide — And The Interests Of Its Allies, Headed By The U.S. ByPamela Geller on July 19, 2013)

Second, I searched my Posting several times. I see no reference to the "Hostile Irish Catholics (HoIC)." I don't think I expressed an opinion on the matter in this thread. I'm not sure that I agree with your connection or association to the conditions that set the political or paramilitary situations alike. In fact I see a great dissimilarity. But we will have to defer that for another time in another thread venue more applicable.

Finally, I did not address the "child molestation, Nazi-sympathising, and the oppression of women" in any way. If you are referring to the Arab Women that went nude in the quad of the Louvre Museum (Paris) early last month for International Women's day, against the oppression of women in the Arab world; I don't believe I made comment. I don't believe I made comment on issue of "Nazi-sympathising." I did mention that the issue of Jihadist training of children. It is what it is; but definitely not "racist;" merely the reality.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[pbel]

montelatici, et al,

I think you must have misread something I wrote.

From YOUR source:

Racism is actions, practices or beliefs, or social or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently. While most conceptualizations of racism include the notion of "race based discrimination", the exact definition is controversial both because there is little scholarly agreement about the meaning of the concept "race", and because there is also little agreement about what does and does not constitute discrimination.

Cultural relativism is the assertion that human values, far from being universal, vary a great deal according to different cultural perspectives. Some would apply this relativism to the promotion, protection, interpretation and application of human rights which could be interpreted differently within different cultural, ethnic and religious traditions. In other words, according to this view, human rights are culturally relative rather than universal.

Taken to its extreme, this relativism would pose a dangerous threat to the effectiveness of international law and the international system of human rights that has been painstakingly contructed over the decades. If cultural tradition alone governs State compliance with international standards, then widespread disregard, abuse and violation of human rights would be given legitimacy.

Accordingly, the promotion and protection of human rights perceived as culturally relative would only be subject to State discretion, rather than international legal imperative. By rejecting or disregarding their legal obligation to promote and protect universal human rights, States advocating cultural relativism could raise their own cultural norms and particularities above international law and standards.

SOURCE: UN Human Rights Commission

montelatici, et al,

I've read the previous posting; several times now. I fail to see how this is --- in any way --- accurate.


(COMMENT)

But, if you can point-out how I furthered a doctrine that a certain human race (what are they) is superior to any or all others (who did I say was superior to whom), I'll reconsider.

Do you have a particular counter-point?

Most Respectfully,
R

Firstly, "Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial."

Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Secondly, What do think of the Irish? Though often starving, they fought as terrorists or freedom fighters (depending on one's point of view) losing every war against the Protestant settlers for centuries. The British referred to the Hostile Irish Catholics (HoIC) in much the same way you refer to the HoAP. I just found a few anti-Irish quotes from long ago and recnt:

"They are all papists by profession but in the same so blindingly and brutishly informed that you would rather think them atheists or infidels". "

"Great force must be the instrument but famine must be the means, for till Ireland be famished it cannot be subdued. ."

And quite recently:

In 2002, English journalist Julie Burchill wrote a column in The Guardian where she described Ireland as being synonymous with "child molestation, Nazi-sympathising, and the oppression of women."

Sound familiar?

Anti-Irish sentiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Point is, today those quotes are recognized as racist by almost anyone except maybe an Ulsterman. What you are writing about the non-Jews of Palestine is equally racist.

(COMMENT)

First, I was not citing Arab discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, but pointing out that there are cultural differences. This is a fact, not an accusation. And nothing in the Posting #3721 that remotely suggests that some human right of the HoAP (Hostile Arab Palestinian) should be denied simply because of some racial or ethnic difference. By the same token nothing is racist about pointing out cultural differences. If the Palestinian self-describes themselves as Jihadist or Fedayeen, then they are by definition --- Hostile. If the Palestinian Palestinian self-describes themselves as a people dedicated to Jihad and armed struggle, then they are by definition --- Hostile. If the Palestinian have a culture that openly organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating offensive acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens, then they are by definition --- Hostile. If the Palestinian have a culture that openly trains and encourages their children to recognize another culture as a enemy aggressor, and participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating offensive acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens, then they are by definition --- Hostile.

There is nothing racist about recognizing the cultural diversity, the differences that are open, documented and readily recognizable. These are differences that the HoAP openly parade in public demonstrations. They openly espouse these concepts of Jihad and armed struggle in a multitude of colorful ways; as well as action and deed. There is absolutely nothing wrong in pointing out something that they (the HoAP, including yourself) promote everyday. (Hamas, Islamic Jihad call for a third intifada By KHALED ABU TOAMEH 09/26/2013 22:43 OR Senior Hamas Official: The Resistance Is Entitled To Attack Israel’s Embassies, Interests, And Officials Worldwide — And The Interests Of Its Allies, Headed By The U.S. ByPamela Geller on July 19, 2013)

Second, I searched my Posting several times. I see no reference to the "Hostile Irish Catholics (HoIC)." I don't think I expressed an opinion on the matter in this thread. I'm not sure that I agree with your connection or association to the conditions that set the political or paramilitary situations alike. In fact I see a great dissimilarity. But we will have to defer that for another time in another threat venue more applicable.

Finally, I did not address the "child molestation, Nazi-sympathising, and the oppression of women" in any way. If you are referring to the Arab Women that went nude in the quad of the Louvre Museum (Paris) early last month for International Women's day, against the oppression of women in the Arab world; I don't believe I made commend. I don't believe I made comment on issue of "Nazi-sympathising." I did mention that the issue of Jihadist training of children. It is what it is; but definitely not "racist;" merely the reality.

Most Respectfully,
R

Honestly Rocco, can't you say it in a few words?...Geez.

 

[Billo_Really]

Shows the scope and severity of the problem doesn't it, and proves that islam is dangerous even in small doses.

All it shows, is where you get your "nut-o-phrania" from.

 

[pbel]

Shows the scope and severity of the problem doesn't it, and proves that islam is dangerous even in small doses.

All it shows, is where you get your "nut-o-phrania" from.

Swimming in the polluted Thames under the Thieving Pirate Parliament. He promised to produce papers of sanity, certified!

 

[Kondor3]

montelatici, et al,

I've read the previous posting; several times now. I fail to see how this is --- in any way --- accurate.

You are one disgusting racist, that's for sure.

(COMMENT)

But, if you can point-out how I furthered a doctrine that a certain human race (what are they) is superior to any or all others (who did I say was superior to whom), I'll reconsider.

Do you have a particular counter-point?

Most Respectfully,
R

Hey, when reading this: Substitute Rocco, Phoenall, especially Kondor the Konqueror and don't forge Sniffer and MJ...
Attila the Dunn

There is a guy named Dunn
Who writes posts like Attila the Hun
He makes up his lies in his daily routine
Sending every Palestinian to a nice Guillotine...

He professes peace at the point of a Gun
He says give us our land that we stole fair and square
He says let us kill every Palestinian under the Sun
He says please don't deny us our fun let's be fair

For my name is Attila the Dunn!

Don't quit your day-job, Pee-Belle.

 

[Billo_Really]

That is exactly what you did...

You don't tell me what my point is, I TELL YOU!

GOT IT!

... rather than look at the content of the links, you could always try googling it yourself and see how many hits you get..............

I did look at the content and none of it justifies you broad-stroking an entire race of people, as some evil enemy that has to be stopped.

 

[toastman]

That is exactly what you did...

Listen fuckhead, shut your god-damn, punk-ass mouth!

You don't tell me what my point is, I TELL YOU!

GOT IT!

... rather than look at the content of the links, you could always try googling it yourself and see how many hits you get..............

I did look at the content and none of it justifies you broad-stroking an entire race of people, as some evil enemy that has to be stopped.

Now **** off, *****-boy!

HAHAHAHA
And the tough guy drama queen comes out again.

Just reminding you Billo, you are posting from behind a computer screen

 

[pbel]

montelatici, et al,

I've read the previous posting; several times now. I fail to see how this is --- in any way --- accurate.


(COMMENT)

But, if you can point-out how I furthered a doctrine that a certain human race (what are they) is superior to any or all others (who did I say was superior to whom), I'll reconsider.

Do you have a particular counter-point?

Most Respectfully,
R

Hey, when reading this: Substitute Rocco, Phoenall, especially Kondor the Konqueror and don't forge Sniffer and MJ...
Attila the Dunn

There is a guy named Dunn
Who writes posts like Attila the Hun
He makes up his lies in his daily routine
Sending every Palestinian to a nice Guillotine...

He professes peace at the point of a Gun
He says give us our land that we stole fair and square
He says let us kill every Palestinian under the Sun
He says please don't deny us our fun let's be fair

For my name is Attila the Dunn!

Don't quit your day-job, Pee-Belle.

Should I make it Kondor the Konqueeror?

 

[toastman]

Pbel, what does you poem have to do with what Rocco said?

 

[Kondor3]

Hey, when reading this: Substitute Rocco, Phoenall, especially Kondor the Konqueror and don't forge Sniffer and MJ...
Attila the Dunn

There is a guy named Dunn
Who writes posts like Attila the Hun
He makes up his lies in his daily routine
Sending every Palestinian to a nice Guillotine...

He professes peace at the point of a Gun
He says give us our land that we stole fair and square
He says let us kill every Palestinian under the Sun
He says please don't deny us our fun let's be fair

For my name is Attila the Dunn!

Don't quit your day-job, Pee-Belle.

Should I make it Kondor the Konqueeror?

I'll defer to your superior knowledge on such subject matter, Queenie.

 

[pbel]

Pbel, what does you poem have to do with what Rocco said?

It's the attitude of Might makes Right.

 

[Kondor3]

Pbel, what does you poem have to do with what Rocco said?

It the attitude of Might makes Right.

Why not?

It's a time-honored Muslim tradition.

 

[toastman]

Pbel, what does you poem have to do with what Rocco said?

It the attitude of Might makes Right.

Ok but I have not ever seen that in Rocco's posts

 

[pbel]

Don't quit your day-job, Pee-Belle.

Should I make it Kondor the Konqueeror?

I'll defer to your superior knowledge on such subject matter, Queenie.

Are you seeing something or was that a misspelling Queerie?

 

[Kondor3]

Should I make it Kondor the Konqueeror?

I'll defer to your superior knowledge on such subject matter, Queenie.

Are you seeing something or was that a misspelling Queerie?

What does any of this have to do with the topic at hand?

This does nothing to advance the discussion re: the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

You want a piece of me, sweet-cheeks, take it to the Flame Zone, and I'll be happy to tear you a new one.

Meanwhile, try to do a better job of laying-off the ad hominem attacks and focusing upon the subject matter.

Not that you're much good at that to begin with...

 

[pbel]

Pbel, what does you poem have to do with what Rocco said?

It the attitude of Might makes Right.

Ok but I have not ever seen that in Rocco's posts

I like Rocco, a lot. I give him credit for informing us in detail, however he reads like a British Colonialist who reads out the rules and expects us to follow.

American Policies thus far have been in support of Western Power to control Middle East Oil, Israel was supposed to be our lackey but AIPAC in America has made us Israel's lackey.

 

[pbel]

I'll defer to your superior knowledge on such subject matter, Queenie.

Are you seeing something or was that a misspelling Queerie?

What does any of this have to do with the topic at hand?

This does nothing to advance the discussion re: the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

You want a piece of me, sweet-cheeks, take it to the Flame Zone, and I'll be happy to tear you a new one.

Meanwhile, try to do a better job of laying-off the ad hominem attacks and focusing upon the subject matter.

Not that you're much good at that to begin with...

I get a weirdo like you coming back adding the post total and showing the audience that Kondor which is a large Vulture lives up to its name by Jingoists juvenile boasting and hails of Israeli Knoquests as though he was Caesar! "Kill the Palestinians, drive them out. losers blah blah blah.

Stop posting like your pushing Toy soldiers if you want to discuss the ME.