I will not Bow!

[P F Tinmore]

PF Tinmore, et al,

You are absolutely correct, and still entirely wrong in you application.

A lot actually as it is against International Law to wage war on civilians, just as it is against International law to commit terrorist acts on civilians. It does not matter that the country is occupying the land, any attacks on civilians will just tighten the noose as defined in the Geneva conventions.

Even when the definition of protected persons is set out in this way, it may seem rather complicated. Nevertheless, disregarding points of detail, it will be seen that there are two main classes of protected person: (1) ' enemy nationals ' within the national territory of each of the Parties to the conflict and (2) ' the whole population ' of occupied territories (excluding nationals of the Occupying Power).

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What else you got?

(COMMENT)

You citation make a distinction between the "enemy population" (versus Citizens of the country of the Occupation Force) protected under the Geneva Convention from excesses from the Occupation Force. But the citizens from the country of the Occupation Force enjoy the protections of their home country; not occupation law.

Citizens of the country of the Occupation Force are protected by civil laws (both military, local civil and homeland law) and Article 68 of the Geneva Convention.

Again, as you say ... your rebuttal is irrelevant.

Most Respectfully,
R

I know there is a local problem with Israel but on the international level the Palestinians have the right to resist the occupation.

And if you look closely, the terrorist label is a bunch of hooey.

 

[toastman]

Well Zionists through AIPAC have taken over the US policies in the ME through this lobby for a foreign power, they contribute more campaign contributions than anyone else, certainly first or second.

All for a foreign power which sabotage efforts of peace by America and clearly against our interests.

America needs to remove this cancer with campaign finance reform.

Of course they do Pbel

Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you happy, stupid..

As Israel keeps backstabbing America as it is today with Obama, it will happen it time as it has happened from time immemorial. Read your history dopey.

Keep making up and fabricating stories, it suits you well, stupid.

America and Israel are Allies, with no end in site. And some of you. Tax money goes to Israel .

Now how bout dem apples, pro philistine dummie????

 

[toastman]

PF Tinmore, et al,

You are absolutely correct, and still entirely wrong in you application.

What else you got?

(COMMENT)

You citation make a distinction between the "enemy population" (versus Citizens of the country of the Occupation Force) protected under the Geneva Convention from excesses from the Occupation Force. But the citizens from the country of the Occupation Force enjoy the protections of their home country; not occupation law.

Citizens of the country of the Occupation Force are protected by civil laws (both military, local civil and homeland law) and Article 68 of the Geneva Convention.

Again, as you say ... your rebuttal is irrelevant.

Most Respectfully,
R

I know there is a local problem with Israel but on the international level the Palestinians have the right to resist the occupation.

And if you look closely, the terrorist label is a bunch of hooey.

Ok, but what does that have to do with Rocco dismantling your lies?

 

[P F Tinmore]

PF Tinmore, et al,

You are absolutely correct, and still entirely wrong in you application.


(COMMENT)

You citation make a distinction between the "enemy population" (versus Citizens of the country of the Occupation Force) protected under the Geneva Convention from excesses from the Occupation Force. But the citizens from the country of the Occupation Force enjoy the protections of their home country; not occupation law.

Citizens of the country of the Occupation Force are protected by civil laws (both military, local civil and homeland law) and Article 68 of the Geneva Convention.

Again, as you say ... your rebuttal is irrelevant.

Most Respectfully,
R

I know there is a local problem with Israel but on the international level the Palestinians have the right to resist the occupation.

And if you look closely, the terrorist label is a bunch of hooey.

Ok, but what does that have to do with Rocco dismantling your lies?

Which lie?

 

[Indeependent]

I know there is a local problem with Israel but on the international level the Palestinians have the right to resist the occupation.

And if you look closely, the terrorist label is a bunch of hooey.

Ok, but what does that have to do with Rocco dismantling your lies?

Which lie?

You must be illiterate as Roccor always responds to your posts and quotes you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ok, but what does that have to do with Rocco dismantling your lies?

Which lie?

You must be illiterate as Roccor always responds to your posts and quotes you.

If you don't know just say so.

 

[toastman]

Which lie?

You must be illiterate as Roccor always responds to your posts and quotes you.

If you don't know just say so.

THANK YOU!!!!

Finally, this is what Ive been trying to tell you for a while now

 

[Billo_Really]

Not according to the real history books.

WTF do you know about "real" history books?

You get all your information from propaganda rags in the Israeli press.

But you have ignored the much more prevalent mass murders of Jews by the Palestinians by not giving them equal credence.

Because it's not "more prevalent" and it's not equal.

Now show were Jews mass murdered Palestinians using a credible source for your evidence of Zionist violence.

Deir Yassen and **** you with your little "source game". The truth or falsehood of a claim, does not rest solely on the website from which it came. I'm not going to play your little word game *****-boy, so **** off!

Not your usual NAZI and ISLAMONAZI sites that are known to be lying. Lets see a near 200 mass murder tally by the "Zionists" that is not retaliation to ISLAMONAZI VIOLENT TERRORISM using illegal weapons aimed at children.

I love how you try to control ever facet of the conversation. But that shit doesn't work with me. I say what I want to say and nobody tells me different.

 

[toastman]

Not according to the real history books.

WTF do you know about "real" history books?

You get all your information from propaganda rags in the Israeli press.

WHENEVER SOMEONE SAYS THIS ABOUT PRO PALESTINIAN SITES YOU ATTACK THEM TOU FUCKIN HYPOCRITE

But you have ignored the much more prevalent mass murders of Jews by the Palestinians by not giving them equal credence.

Because it's not "more prevalent" and it's not equal.

Now show were Jews mass murdered Palestinians using a credible source for your evidence of Zionist violence.

Deir Yassen and **** you with your little "source game". The truth or falsehood of a claim, does not rest solely on the website from which it came. I'm not going to play your little word game *****-boy, so **** off!
THIS COMMENT IS QUITE IRONIC CONSIDERING YOUR FIRST STATEMENT

Not your usual NAZI and ISLAMONAZI sites that are known to be lying. Lets see a near 200 mass murder tally by the "Zionists" that is not retaliation to ISLAMONAZI VIOLENT TERRORISM using illegal weapons aimed at children.

I love how you try to control ever facet of the conversation. But that shit doesn't work with me. I say what I want to say and nobody tells me different.

HE'S RIGHT, YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF ISLAMO NAZIS

 

[Billo_Really]

Yes they do and yes they have. Not all of course. ****, you're ignorant.
And no, you didnt make a valid comparison. Go in your post history and find the post where I dismantled all those idiotic comparisons you made.

Hitlers 'final solution' was to kill all the Jews you LYING PROPAGANDIST. What is it with pro Palestinians and distorting history?? I dont get it.

So you're saying, Palestinian's are not -

- constantly demonized
- blamed for all the problems in the country
- indefinitely detained without charges
- living by a different set of laws
- systematically being cleansed from the area​

You are saying none of that is true?

Is that what you are saying?

 

[Billo_Really]

WHENEVER SOMEONE SAYS THIS ABOUT PRO PALESTINIAN SITES YOU ATTACK THEM TOU FUCKIN HYPOCRITE

That's because they are not pro Palestinian sites.

 

[toastman]

Yes they do and yes they have. Not all of course. ****, you're ignorant.
And no, you didnt make a valid comparison. Go in your post history and find the post where I dismantled all those idiotic comparisons you made.

Hitlers 'final solution' was to kill all the Jews you LYING PROPAGANDIST. What is it with pro Palestinians and distorting history?? I dont get it.

So you're saying, Palestinian's are not -

- constantly demonized
- blamed for all the problems in the country
- indefinitely detained without charges
- living by a different set of laws
- systematically being cleansed from the area​

You are saying none of that is true?

Is that what you are saying?

No they're not blamed for all the problems of the country

Yes some of them are detained without being formally charged. I dont support that but that has nothing to do with being compared to Nazis. Jews werent just detained for no reason, they were rounded up and massacred for no reason. Terrible, terrible comparison.

Those living under a different set of laws are not citizens of Israel. Jews who lived under a different set of laws WERE.

No. The goal of the cleanser if to ultimately get rid of most if not all of the people being cleansed. Palestinian population has been INCREASING, not decreasing. Thats just another one of the many Palestinian myths.

You are disgusting for comparing Israelis to Nazis you sick ****.

Let me know when Palestinians are starved to death in ghettos surrounded by barbed wire.
Let me know when they are gassed to death
Let me know when millions of them perish
Let me know when hundreds of thousands of them are packed packed PACKED to the max in a train being sent off to death camps
Let me know when Israel send tens of thousands of Palestinians to work i. Sweat shops for no money

 

[toastman]

WHENEVER SOMEONE SAYS THIS ABOUT PRO PALESTINIAN SITES YOU ATTACK THEM TOU FUCKIN HYPOCRITE

That's because they are not pro Palestinian sites.

Then the sites you were talking about are not propaganda sites

 

[Kondor3]

Not according to the real history books.

WTF do you know about "real" history books?

You get all your information from propaganda rags in the Israeli press.

But you have ignored the much more prevalent mass murders of Jews by the Palestinians by not giving them equal credence.

Because it's not "more prevalent" and it's not equal.

Now show were Jews mass murdered Palestinians using a credible source for your evidence of Zionist violence.

Deir Yassen and **** you with your little "source game". The truth or falsehood of a claim, does not rest solely on the website from which it came. I'm not going to play your little word game *****-boy, so **** off!

Not your usual NAZI and ISLAMONAZI sites that are known to be lying. Lets see a near 200 mass murder tally by the "Zionists" that is not retaliation to ISLAMONAZI VIOLENT TERRORISM using illegal weapons aimed at children.

I love how you try to control ever facet of the conversation. But that shit doesn't work with me. I say what I want to say and nobody tells me different.

Very few people here, beyond the realm of pro-Palestinian posters, really give a rat's ass about your self-control. Your one-sided rants, your constant personal provocations, your profanity and your amateur-hour analysis of Israeli motives and actions and rights tell us all we need to know.

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[Billo_Really]

Very few people here, beyond the realm of pro-Palestinian posters, really give a rat's ass about your self-control. Your one-sided rants, your constant personal provocations, your profanity and your amateur-hour analysis of Israeli motives and actions and rights tell us all we need to know.

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WTF are you talking about, my analysis is kick-ass!

 

[Billo_Really]

Then the sites you were talking about are not propaganda sites

It doesn't work that way.

Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post are biased towards Israel.

The Washington Post and NYT's are biased towards right-wing America.

The UN, Human Rights Watch, Physician's for Human Rights, the ICRC and Rabbi's for Human Rights, are not a pro-Palestinian propaganda sites.

 

[Billo_Really]

No they're not blamed for all the problems of the country

They're blamed for 100% of any problem regarding Israeli/Palestinian issues.

Yes some of them are detained without being formally charged. I dont support that but that has nothing to do with being compared to Nazis.

It has everything to do with being compared to the Nazis. How do you think the Holocaust started? It didn't just happen overnight. There were 10 years of hate and propaganda ramping the country up towards the genocide. That's the period we have now in Israel. Not the death camp and oven burning phase, but the ramping up of hate and propaganda, that completely numbs the Israeli population. That's why no matter how heinous the crime is against a Palestinian, there is no outrage in Israel proper.

It's systemic and government driven, just like it was in Nazi Germany leading up to the Final Solution.

Jews werent just detained for no reason, they were rounded up and massacred for no reason.

They were detained because they were jews.

Terrible, terrible comparison.

When you're doing the same things Nazi Germany did, what's terrible about the comparison?

Those living under a different set of laws are not citizens of Israel. Jews who lived under a different set of laws WERE.

I was talking about Israeli-arabs, who are citizens.

No. The goal of the cleanser if to ultimately get rid of most if not all of the people being cleansed. Palestinian population has been INCREASING, not decreasing. Thats just another one of the many Palestinian myths.

Tell that to the over 700,000 driven from their homes in 1948.

You are disgusting for comparing Israelis to Nazis you sick ****.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Let me know when Palestinians are starved to death in ghettos surrounded by barbed wire.

They are. In the Gazan ghetto.

Let me know when they are gassed to death

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You were saying...

Let me know when millions of them perish

And if they are, you won't think twice about it. There will be no outrage from you. No protest. No thoughts of something being terribly wrong here. Nothing. No reaction.

Just like average Germans were, when their jewish neighbors disappeared all of sudden.

Let me know when hundreds of thousands of them are packed packed PACKED to the max in a train being sent off to death camps

Like I said, we're not at that stage yet, but we're heading in that direction.

Let me know when Israel send tens of thousands of Palestinians to work i. Sweat shops for no money

What do you think the BDS movement is about?

 

[Sally]

No they're not blamed for all the problems of the country

They're blamed for 100% of any problem regarding Israeli/Palestinian issues.

Yes some of them are detained without being formally charged. I dont support that but that has nothing to do with being compared to Nazis.

It has everything to do with being compared to the Nazis. How do you think the Holocaust started? It didn't just happen overnight. There were 10 years of hate and propaganda ramping the country up towards the genocide. That's the period we have now in Israel. Not the death camp and oven burning phase, but the ramping up of hate and propaganda, that completely numbs the Israeli population. That's why no matter how heinous the crime is against a Palestinian, there is no outrage in Israel proper.

It's systemic and government driven, just like it was in Nazi Germany leading up to the Final Solution.


They were detained because they were jews.


When you're doing the same things Nazi Germany did, what's terrible about the comparison?


I was talking about Israeli-arabs, who are citizens.


Tell that to the over 700,000 driven from their homes in 1948.



If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

They are. In the Gazan ghetto.



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You were saying...

And if they are, you won't think twice about it. There will be no outrage from you. No protest. No thoughts of something being terribly wrong here. Nothing. No reaction.

Just like average Germans were, when their jewish neighbors disappeared all of sudden.

Let me know when hundreds of thousands of them are packed packed PACKED to the max in a train being sent off to death camps

Like I said, we're not at that stage yet, but we're heading in that direction.

Let me know when Israel send tens of thousands of Palestinians to work i. Sweat shops for no money

What do you think the BDS movement is about?

Billy is quite amusing, and we should thank him for entertaining us. Has anyone seen his outrage to the Catholics being killed in the Middle East and their churches destroyed? Has anyone even seen his outrage when Muslims are busy killing other Muslims. That is why anyone with brains can take Billy's fake outrage and let it go in one ear out the other. Just in Syria alone way over a hundred thousand people have been killed, probably a horrendous amount of people have been wounded, and there are over a million refugees. And here is Billy up on step once again regarding Israel, and whatever is happening in the rest of the Middle East is no concern to him at all.

 

[Billo_Really]

Billy is quite amusing, and we should thank him for entertaining us. Has anyone seen his outrage to the Catholics being killed in the Middle East and their churches destroyed? Has anyone even seen his outrage when Muslims are busy killing other Muslims. That is why anyone with brains can take Billy's fake outrage and let it go in one ear out the other. Just in Syria alone way over a hundred thousand people have been killed, probably a horrendous amount of people have been wounded, and there are over a million refugees. And here is Billy up on step once again regarding Israel, and whatever is happening in the rest of the Middle East is no concern to him at all.

Care to comment on the thread OP?

 

[SAYIT]

Yes they do and yes they have. Not all of course. ****, you're ignorant.
And no, you didnt make a valid comparison. Go in your post history and find the post where I dismantled all those idiotic comparisons you made.

Hitlers 'final solution' was to kill all the Jews you LYING PROPAGANDIST. What is it with pro Palestinians and distorting history?? I dont get it.

So you're saying, Palestinian's are not -

- constantly demonized
- blamed for all the problems in the country?​

Evidently not. According to you Israel is responsible for all the Palestinian's probs. ​