I will not Bow!

[Phoenall]

Hey, I have always declared war on Hamas...Those people should be tried as war criminals for shooting rockets and instigating retaliation killing many innocents.

What about when Hamas puts in street lights in a Gaza neighborhood, then the IDF comes along later and shoots out the lamps at the top, which group committed the terrorist act?

Israel is guilty of 10 times the incidents Hamas is accused of.

The rockets are war crimes because they are considered "indiscriminant weapons". If they had guidance systems and were only aimed at military targets, they would be perfectly legal under international law.

Look at it in a realistic military and humanitarian level...Gaza is tightly knit, innocent people who are not combatants can not escape the death traps....Putting your people at a risk that has no hope of achieving any gain except death is criminal in my view.

Fatah is successful in the world because Abbas offers peace, and he is winning.

If you look on Google earth you will see that most of gaza is rural land, so there is no reason to use the urban areas to fire the weapons at Israel. The only reason is that the gazan terrorists are cowards and wont fire from the outskirts of the built up areas. They rely on the human shields to protect them.

Abbas is losing everything but his life

 

[aris2chat]

I would think that a person who is supposedly civilized would also focus on those unfortunate people who are being murdered for their religious beliefs in the Middle East. It appears that you do not care what happened to them and is still happening. Anyhow, since you are so hot about the Arab uprisings, why not give us your opinion as to what is going to happen in Morocco? Do you think that King Mohammed will be able to hold on to his throne or do you think the Islamists will eventually take over there? In addition, what do you think about the Russian Jihadists now in Syria excuting people? Don't you think they would have enough to do murdering innocent Russians than to run to Syria to kill people?

Try to look at this mess like a Political Scientist, Sally...Christian Society had many religious wars in the middle ages...almost all societies have stupid religious wars...

Islam has not developed into democracies mainly because the ruling Sheiks exploited the wealth of their nations with corruption...All these revolts are about them and secondly Israel because she has colluded with the Dictators to keep them in line and poor.

Political evolutionary pressure has caused the Arab Awakening...

So if Isreal is destroyed in the next decade who will you then blame for the problems in islam. Will it be the Christians, or the Hindus, Sikhs, Janes, Buddists and Shinto that are the cause of the problems. The problem is the extremist muslims want ultimate power over all of islam, and they know that democracy is not the way to achieve this. Look at iran that is allegedly a democratic Islamic nation, the elections are for the ayotollahs chosen people and not for the peoples choice. That is Islamic extremist democracy in action and what the arab spring is really all about.

first the saturday then the sunday people......

 

[pbel]

As with your bogus Ariel Sharon quote an so many of your opinions, there is a wide chasm between what you think and the truth.

Ariel Sharon undoubtedly said that to Peres...is there prima facie proof? No...Is there circumstantial evidence? Yes, tons of it...Just look at the US Congress which dances to the AIPAC looney tunes and the money spent or read the Walt/ Mearsheimer study...

All your circumstantial evidence is from Islamic sources, so is voided straight away

all this from the fountain of idiocy...can you link my comments to Islamist sites?

 

[Sally]

Ariel Sharon undoubtedly said that to Peres...is there prima facie proof? No...Is there circumstantial evidence? Yes, tons of it...Just look at the US Congress which dances to the AIPAC looney tunes and the money spent or read the Walt/ Mearsheimer study...

All your circumstantial evidence is from Islamic sources, so is voided straight away

all this from the fountain of idiocy...can you link my comments to Islamist sites?

Well, Pbel, those who have seen you post for years have seen you use the fake quote about Sheron many times. You might not use Islamic sites which no doubt also report on this fake quote, but there are plenty of NeoNazi and other anti-Semitic sites which also report on this fake quote. I don't think you just pulled this fake quote out of the thin air.

 

[aris2chat]

Like what, and try and be realistic on your alleged charges of apartheid and disregard for international law.

That's a pretty dumbass question coming from someone who spends all their time making up their own reality.

Hamas Committed War Crimes In November: Report
ibtimes.com/hamas-committed-war-crimes-november-report-965796
By Angelo Young

Hamas as a whole is considered a terrorist organization by the U.S., the EU, Canada, Israel and Japan. The militant wing of Hamas is classified as a terrorist organization by Australia and the UK.
Reuters

Human Rights Watch on Monday accused Palestinian militants in Gaza of war crimes for intentionally targeting Israeli civilians with rockets during last month’s clashes after Israel assassinated a top Hamas leader on Nov. 14.

“Palestinian armed groups made clear in their statements that harming civilians was their aim,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Human Rights Watch’s Middle East director, in the report based on field interviews with witnesses on both sides. “There is simply no legal justification for launching rockets at populated areas.”

 

[P F Tinmore]

"...Fatah is successful in the world because Abbas offers peace, and he is winning."

Given that Fatah lost the last general election and then refused to stand down, so that Hamas broke off with them...

Now that Abbas is offering peace, all you have to do is to convince the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who vigorously deny that Abbas is speaking for them when he offers peace...

Oh, and somebody should probably check-in with Hamas, as well, to see if they're on-board with Abbas on this...

Bottom line... until the Palestinians have representation that speaks for all of them... until they stop squabbling amongst themselves...

Representations of peace by one side or the other are worthless, if the rest of that bunch isn't on-board...

That doesn't look like 'winning', to me... only the side that is foaming at the mouth the least... and that is the Hope du Jour, to eventually speak for all...

They do. It is called BDS.

The politicos are being left in the dust.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

"...Fatah is successful in the world because Abbas offers peace, and he is winning."

Given that Fatah lost the last general election and then refused to stand down, so that Hamas broke off with them...

Now that Abbas is offering peace, all you have to do is to convince the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who vigorously deny that Abbas is speaking for them when he offers peace...

Oh, and somebody should probably check-in with Hamas, as well, to see if they're on-board with Abbas on this...

Bottom line... until the Palestinians have representation that speaks for all of them... until they stop squabbling amongst themselves...

Representations of peace by one side or the other are worthless, if the rest of that bunch isn't on-board...

That doesn't look like 'winning', to me... only the side that is foaming at the mouth the least... and that is the Hope du Jour, to eventually speak for all...

They do. It is called BDS.

The politicos are being left in the dust.

I had a cousin from Israel visiting here last week. He said that BDS has affected a few individuals here and there, but can never really bring a high-tech nation such as Israel to its knees. Israeli technology is just too valuable to the world. He himself is a high-tech exec., and he was in NY on a business trip.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Fatah is successful in the world because Abbas offers peace, and he is winning."

Given that Fatah lost the last general election and then refused to stand down, so that Hamas broke off with them...

Now that Abbas is offering peace, all you have to do is to convince the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who vigorously deny that Abbas is speaking for them when he offers peace...

Oh, and somebody should probably check-in with Hamas, as well, to see if they're on-board with Abbas on this...

Bottom line... until the Palestinians have representation that speaks for all of them... until they stop squabbling amongst themselves...

Representations of peace by one side or the other are worthless, if the rest of that bunch isn't on-board...

That doesn't look like 'winning', to me... only the side that is foaming at the mouth the least... and that is the Hope du Jour, to eventually speak for all...

They do. It is called BDS.

The politicos are being left in the dust.

 

[toastman]

"...Fatah is successful in the world because Abbas offers peace, and he is winning."

Given that Fatah lost the last general election and then refused to stand down, so that Hamas broke off with them...

Now that Abbas is offering peace, all you have to do is to convince the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who vigorously deny that Abbas is speaking for them when he offers peace...

Oh, and somebody should probably check-in with Hamas, as well, to see if they're on-board with Abbas on this...

Bottom line... until the Palestinians have representation that speaks for all of them... until they stop squabbling amongst themselves...

Representations of peace by one side or the other are worthless, if the rest of that bunch isn't on-board...

That doesn't look like 'winning', to me... only the side that is foaming at the mouth the least... and that is the Hope du Jour, to eventually speak for all...

They do. It is called BDS.

The politicos are being left in the dust.

If true, that's pretty sad for the Palestinians

 

[Hossfly]

Hey, I have always declared war on Hamas...Those people should be tried as war criminals for shooting rockets and instigating retaliation killing many innocents.

What about when Hamas puts in street lights in a Gaza neighborhood, then the IDF comes along later and shoots out the lamps at the top, which group committed the terrorist act?

Israel is guilty of 10 times the incidents Hamas is accused of.

The rockets are war crimes because they are considered "indiscriminant weapons". If they had guidance systems and were only aimed at military targets, they would be perfectly legal under international law.

Then there's the matter of shooting said rockets across an international border,regardless if it's at military targets.

 

[Victory67]

Then there's the matter of shooting said rockets across an international border,regardless if it's at military targets.

There is an internationally recognized border between Israel and Gaza?

Where is it? When did the UN recognize it?

 

[Hossfly]

Then there's the matter of shooting said rockets across an international border,regardless if it's at military targets.

There is an internationally recognized border between Israel and Gaza?

Where is it? When did the UN recognize it?

Any old borders, Peacock.

 

[Kondor3]

Then there's the matter of shooting said rockets across an international border,regardless if it's at military targets.

There is an internationally recognized border between Israel and Gaza?

Where is it? When did the UN recognize it?

Any old borders, Peacock.

Vicky's defect is the sickness of moral relativism...

It's OK to shoot rockets from territory controlled by the Palestinians, to the territory controlled by the Israelis, because there is no formal 'border' recognized between the two, which are accepted by both parties, and the outside world...

It doesn't matter that those rockets are being fired indiscriminately at civilians... it only matters that there is no internationally recognized border between the two regions...

His is the kind of little peckerwood that got their asses 'fragged', more often than not...

You can't argue with 'em, and they've always got to have the last word...

Which explains why their kind were often on the receiving end of an M26 Enema...

That tended to clear the mind, wonderously well...

 

[Victory67]

Any old borders, Peacock.

No nation nor international organization recognizes the line between Gaza and Israel as an international border. Not even Israel, as they control Gaza's airspace and sea.

 

[pbel]

All your circumstantial evidence is from Islamic sources, so is voided straight away

all this from the fountain of idiocy...can you link my comments to Islamist sites?

Well, Pbel, those who have seen you post for years have seen you use the fake quote about Sheron many times. You might not use Islamic sites which no doubt also report on this fake quote, but there are plenty of NeoNazi and other anti-Semitic sites which also report on this fake quote. I don't think you just pulled this fake quote out of the thin air.

That quote is all over the Web...Here is a video by Netanyahu saying the same thing...The Internet is exposing the truth!

Mangia.[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dLTOd3V-Y]Netanyahu 'America Won't Get in Our Way...It's Easily Moved' - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sally]

all this from the fountain of idiocy...can you link my comments to Islamist sites?

Well, Pbel, those who have seen you post for years have seen you use the fake quote about Sheron many times. You might not use Islamic sites which no doubt also report on this fake quote, but there are plenty of NeoNazi and other anti-Semitic sites which also report on this fake quote. I don't think you just pulled this fake quote out of the thin air.

That quote is all over the Web...Here is a video by Netanyahu saying the same thing...The Internet is exposing the truth!

Mangia.[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dLTOd3V-Y]Netanyahu 'America Won't Get in Our Way...It's Easily Moved' - YouTube[/ame]

Of course the fake Sharon quote is all over the web -- in all the NeoNazi/KKK anti-Semitic sites which is probably where you first saw it and then you couldn't restrain yourself from using it over and over and over even when it was shown to you that it was fake.

 

[toastman]

all this from the fountain of idiocy...can you link my comments to Islamist sites?

Well, Pbel, those who have seen you post for years have seen you use the fake quote about Sheron many times. You might not use Islamic sites which no doubt also report on this fake quote, but there are plenty of NeoNazi and other anti-Semitic sites which also report on this fake quote. I don't think you just pulled this fake quote out of the thin air.

That quote is all over the Web...Here is a video by Netanyahu saying the same thing...The Internet is exposing the truth!

Mangia.[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dLTOd3V-Y]Netanyahu 'America Won't Get in Our Way...It's Easily Moved' - YouTube[/ame]

OMG!!!! Did he really sah that?? Oh the humanity!!!

What an evil human being!!

*faints*

 

[pbel]

Well, Pbel, those who have seen you post for years have seen you use the fake quote about Sheron many times. You might not use Islamic sites which no doubt also report on this fake quote, but there are plenty of NeoNazi and other anti-Semitic sites which also report on this fake quote. I don't think you just pulled this fake quote out of the thin air.

That quote is all over the Web...Here is a video by Netanyahu saying the same thing...The Internet is exposing the truth!

Mangia.[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dLTOd3V-Y]Netanyahu 'America Won't Get in Our Way...It's Easily Moved' - YouTube[/ame]

Of course the fake Sharon quote is all over the web -- in all the NeoNazi/KKK anti-Semitic sites which is probably where you first saw it and then you couldn't restrain yourself from using it over and over and over even when it was shown to you that it was fake.

Blah Blah Blah Airhead #1...keep repeating your paranoia about people hating you...Can you answer why there is the kind of hate you describe, I certainly don't see it or ever experience it around Boston, but that hate brought us a bombing Marathon last year...

And the reason given by the bomber, "America and her allies are killing Muslims." or something like that.

Frankly as an American, I want out of those hell holes and let them sort it out.



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[Hossfly]

Any old borders, Peacock.

No nation nor international organization recognizes the line between Gaza and Israel as an international border. Not even Israel, as they control Gaza's airspace and sea.

They may not recognize any borders or lines but they can't ignore THE FENCE.

 

[toastman]

Oh look, Pbel basically just blamed Israel for the Boston Bombings. How pro Palestinian of him LOL