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[pbel]

Fatalities during Operation Cast Lead | B'Tselem

1398 Palestinians killed by Israel in Cast Lead

6 Israelis killed by Palestinians in Cast Lead

LOOK at those barbarian Israelis.

When did King Hussein become a Palestinian?

What I see from all the fatality statistics is Israel is doing a whole bunch more killing then Palestinians.

In Palestine and in Lebanon, too.

Now look at the reality shall we, the Palestinians were killed because hamas used civilian areas to fire rockets from, a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. So every single one of those deaths is down to hamas and the Palestinians.
When he became King of Jordan he became a Palestinian as Jordan is part of greater Palestine. But he also commanded his troops to fire on Palestinian terrorists hiding in the refugee camps killing 25,000 people. So were is your outrage at that atrocity against the Palestinian people. Were is your demands of attacking Jordan and handing the country to the PLO.

Is she back to the same old, same old that she has spammed the forums a gazillion times? This happened a while back, and many of those killed were militants. Meanwhile in more recent days, her friends have certainly managed to kill many, many more innocent people. These dead people are nothing to her because she can't drag in the Jews.

Sally, really, you've been spamming the same stuff for at least twenty years, like a broken record...

 

[Sally]

Now look at the reality shall we, the Palestinians were killed because hamas used civilian areas to fire rockets from, a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. So every single one of those deaths is down to hamas and the Palestinians.
When he became King of Jordan he became a Palestinian as Jordan is part of greater Palestine. But he also commanded his troops to fire on Palestinian terrorists hiding in the refugee camps killing 25,000 people. So were is your outrage at that atrocity against the Palestinian people. Were is your demands of attacking Jordan and handing the country to the PLO.

Is she back to the same old, same old that she has spammed the forums a gazillion times? This happened a while back, and many of those killed were militants. Meanwhile in more recent days, her friends have certainly managed to kill many, many more innocent people. These dead people are nothing to her because she can't drag in the Jews.

Sally, really, you've been spamming the same stuff for at least twenty years, like a broken record...

You're such a fool and a liar, Pbel. Aren't you somewhat confused? You are the one who has saved your ridiculous essays and have brought them up time and time again over the past severa; years. Why not tell everyone about all those silly poems you had made up about posters you didn't like and posted these poems over and over. Twenty years ago, fool, I wasn't even on the Internet. You are talking about yourself. Get checked for Alzheimer's. Your memory is shot.

 

[Billo_Really]

Even if that were true, are you saying that's a reason to massacre 67 men, women and children ??

What do you mean, "...if it was true?"

Unlike you, I can back up what I claim.

In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag.

In answer to your question, no, it's not a reason to massacre 67 men, women and children.

BTW, that wasn't the only reason: The Hebron massacre refers to the killing of sixty-seven Jews (including 23 college students) on 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of Mandatory Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places

"Muslim holy places", like the Wailing Wall!

 

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[toastman]

Even if that were true, are you saying that's a reason to massacre 67 men, women and children ??

What do you mean, "...if it was true?"

Unlike you, I can back up what I claim.

In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag.

In answer to your question, no, it's not a reason to massacre 67 men, women and children.

BTW, that wasn't the only reason: The Hebron massacre refers to the killing of sixty-seven Jews (including 23 college students) on 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of Mandatory Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places

"Muslim holy places", like the Wailing Wall!

Stop lying i always back up my claims, you are mistaking me from someone else


Every time some one brings up the massacre, you bring up that it was in response to the Jews wanting the wall to themselves as if it was a good reason to kill all those Jews.

BTW in case you didnt know, the Wall IS a Jewish holy site and Muslims have no religious claim to it at all

 

[Phoenall]

Now look at the reality shall we, the Palestinians were killed because hamas used civilian areas to fire rockets from, a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. So every single one of those deaths is down to hamas and the Palestinians.
When he became King of Jordan he became a Palestinian as Jordan is part of greater Palestine. But he also commanded his troops to fire on Palestinian terrorists hiding in the refugee camps killing 25,000 people. So were is your outrage at that atrocity against the Palestinian people. Were is your demands of attacking Jordan and handing the country to the PLO.

Is she back to the same old, same old that she has spammed the forums a gazillion times? This happened a while back, and many of those killed were militants. Meanwhile in more recent days, her friends have certainly managed to kill many, many more innocent people. These dead people are nothing to her because she can't drag in the Jews.

Sally, really, you've been spamming the same stuff for at least twenty years, like a broken record...

So no comment on the reality that is islam then, how hamas is to blame under International Law for allowing civilian areas to be used military sites. How it is seen as a WAR CRIME under International Law and was highlighted by Goldstone in his report.

Same with Jordan firing on the caged Palestinian terrorists a WAR CRIME that is never brought up by the islamonazis, or the fact that 25,000 Palestinians were mass murdered by the Jordan army in one short month. A fact that shows Israel to be much less violent than the palestinians

 

[Phoenall]

Even if that were true, are you saying that's a reason to massacre 67 men, women and children ??

What do you mean, "...if it was true?"

Unlike you, I can back up what I claim.

In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag.

In answer to your question, no, it's not a reason to massacre 67 men, women and children.

BTW, that wasn't the only reason: The Hebron massacre refers to the killing of sixty-seven Jews (including 23 college students) on 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of Mandatory Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places

"Muslim holy places", like the Wailing Wall!

So even though the history books say that the cause of the Hebron massacre was the pamphlets distributed by the grand mufti were instrumental in the attacks on Jews you still believe the BLOOD LIBEL was the real reason

The Hebron massacre refers to the killing of sixty-seven Jews (including 23 college students) on 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of Mandatory Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places.
1929 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[pbel]

Is she back to the same old, same old that she has spammed the forums a gazillion times? This happened a while back, and many of those killed were militants. Meanwhile in more recent days, her friends have certainly managed to kill many, many more innocent people. These dead people are nothing to her because she can't drag in the Jews.

Sally, really, you've been spamming the same stuff for at least twenty years, like a broken record...

So no comment on the reality that is islam then, how hamas is to blame under International Law for allowing civilian areas to be used military sites. How it is seen as a WAR CRIME under International Law and was highlighted by Goldstone in his report.

Same with Jordan firing on the caged Palestinian terrorists a WAR CRIME that is never brought up by the islamonazis, or the fact that 25,000 Palestinians were mass murdered by the Jordan army in one short month. A fact that shows Israel to be much less violent than the palestinians

On this, I totaly agree....The ME is full of attrocities, but if you count the bodies, Israel has killed the most by far.

I hope they are all brought to International Justice eventually.

 

[Kondor3]

"...The ME is full of attrocities, but if you count the bodies, Israel has killed the most by far..."

I doubt that's true.

The Arabs kill far more with their petty internecine squabbling, although the Israelis have, indeed, killed copious numbers of Arab military personnel whose masters were foolish enough to provoke the Israelis over the past 66 years.

The Israelis DO turn-in really outstanding and favorable Kill Ratios, don't they? This is how one wins wars... by killing far more of the Bad Guys than they kill of you. Dog bites man. We strive for the same ourselves, in our own conflicts.

"...I hope they are all brought to International Justice eventually."

For what?

 

[Phoenall]

Sally, really, you've been spamming the same stuff for at least twenty years, like a broken record...

So no comment on the reality that is islam then, how hamas is to blame under International Law for allowing civilian areas to be used military sites. How it is seen as a WAR CRIME under International Law and was highlighted by Goldstone in his report.

Same with Jordan firing on the caged Palestinian terrorists a WAR CRIME that is never brought up by the islamonazis, or the fact that 25,000 Palestinians were mass murdered by the Jordan army in one short month. A fact that shows Israel to be much less violent than the palestinians

On this, I totaly agree....The ME is full of attrocities, but if you count the bodies, Israel has killed the most by far.

I hope they are all brought to International Justice eventually.

Jordan is reported to have mass murdered 25,000 innocents, now if you take away the terrorists, militants, militia and collateral deaths Israel has killed maybe 1,000 in 65 years which comes in at just over 1 a month. How many millions died in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, iran and Lebanon in the same 65 years at the hands of Islamic terrorists. don't forget that Israel is the defender and they always have far fewer deaths than the aggressors/attackers do


This puts the situation in a proper light and shows the deaths on both sides

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/casualtiestotal.html

 

[toastman]

Sally, really, you've been spamming the same stuff for at least twenty years, like a broken record...

So no comment on the reality that is islam then, how hamas is to blame under International Law for allowing civilian areas to be used military sites. How it is seen as a WAR CRIME under International Law and was highlighted by Goldstone in his report.

Same with Jordan firing on the caged Palestinian terrorists a WAR CRIME that is never brought up by the islamonazis, or the fact that 25,000 Palestinians were mass murdered by the Jordan army in one short month. A fact that shows Israel to be much less violent than the palestinians

On this, I totaly agree....The ME is full of attrocities, but if you count the bodies, Israel has killed the most by far.

I hope they are all brought to International Justice eventually.

Israel killed more than who ??? Who are you comparing Israel to ?

 

[Indeependent]

Really Toast,
You're expecting a rational response?

 

[pbel]

So no comment on the reality that is islam then, how hamas is to blame under International Law for allowing civilian areas to be used military sites. How it is seen as a WAR CRIME under International Law and was highlighted by Goldstone in his report.

Same with Jordan firing on the caged Palestinian terrorists a WAR CRIME that is never brought up by the islamonazis, or the fact that 25,000 Palestinians were mass murdered by the Jordan army in one short month. A fact that shows Israel to be much less violent than the palestinians

On this, I totaly agree....The ME is full of attrocities, but if you count the bodies, Israel has killed the most by far.

I hope they are all brought to International Justice eventually.

Israel killed more than who ??? Who are you comparing Israel to ?

Between Israelis and Palestinians, you know, the Topic of this Thread.

 

[Sally]

On this, I totaly agree....The ME is full of attrocities, but if you count the bodies, Israel has killed the most by far.

I hope they are all brought to International Justice eventually.

Israel killed more than who ??? Who are you comparing Israel to ?

Between Israelis and Palestinians, you know, the Topic of this Thread.

I am curious about what thing, and maybe Pbel will be kind enough to explain it to us. How come, Pbel, you only appeared interested in the Israel/Palestine conflict even when you had a chance (and still have that opportunity) to discuss other issues in the Middle East. It is very difficult to believe that anyone actually cares about the "poor Palestinian Arabs" when he or she overlooks what is happening to those real unfortunate Arabs in other places in the Middle East. We see how many of them have been murdered (tens of thousands in the last few years alone), the amount o wounded must be enormous, and millions have been made refugees (many living in freezing tents) as a result of actions by their fellow Arabs, and yet some posters really don't seem to care about these people. Truthfully, it appears that if the Jews are not involved in whatever atrocity is visited upon these unfortunate Arabs, there are those who just close their eyes to it.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

So no comment on the reality that is islam then, how hamas is to blame under International Law for allowing civilian areas to be used military sites. How it is seen as a WAR CRIME under International Law and was highlighted by Goldstone in his report.

Same with Jordan firing on the caged Palestinian terrorists a WAR CRIME that is never brought up by the islamonazis, or the fact that 25,000 Palestinians were mass murdered by the Jordan army in one short month. A fact that shows Israel to be much less violent than the palestinians

On this, I totaly agree....The ME is full of attrocities, but if you count the bodies, Israel has killed the most by far.

I hope they are all brought to International Justice eventually.

Israel killed more than who ??? Who are you comparing Israel to ?

If he's comparing it to inter-Arab squabbles, I don't know if that's true. One million in the Iran-Iraq war, 10-20,000 Palestinians by King Hussein, 140,000 in Syria so far, thousands in the Lebanese Civil War, etc, etc.

 

[pbel]

Israel killed more than who ??? Who are you comparing Israel to ?

Between Israelis and Palestinians, you know, the Topic of this Thread.

I am curious about what thing, and maybe Pbel will be kind enough to explain it to us. How come, Pbel, you only appeared interested in the Israel/Palestine conflict even when you had a chance (and still have that opportunity) to discuss other issues in the Middle East. It is very difficult to believe that anyone actually cares about the "poor Palestinian Arabs" when he or she overlooks what is happening to those real unfortunate Arabs in other places in the Middle East. We see how many of them have been murdered (tens of thousands in the last few years alone), the amount o wounded must be enormous, and millions have been made refugees (many living in freezing tents) as a result of actions by their fellow Arabs, and yet some posters really don't seem to care about these people. Truthfully, it appears that if the Jews are not involved in whatever atrocity is visited upon these unfortunate Arabs, there are those who just close their eyes to it.

Sally, you have got to stop looking for reasoning beyond what is posted...I zeroed in on this Conflict because in my view, it has created terrorism against Americans...Western Colonialism is not part of the American spirit...

Sure I feel awful about the Holocaust and wish a safe-haven for Jews and wish for an acceptable peace and hope that terrorism stops killing Americans at home and in our foolish and unwinnable wars in Asia. Israel should learn this lesson too as this Conflicts borders keep expanding.

 

[Sally]

Between Israelis and Palestinians, you know, the Topic of this Thread.

I am curious about what thing, and maybe Pbel will be kind enough to explain it to us. How come, Pbel, you only appeared interested in the Israel/Palestine conflict even when you had a chance (and still have that opportunity) to discuss other issues in the Middle East. It is very difficult to believe that anyone actually cares about the "poor Palestinian Arabs" when he or she overlooks what is happening to those real unfortunate Arabs in other places in the Middle East. We see how many of them have been murdered (tens of thousands in the last few years alone), the amount o wounded must be enormous, and millions have been made refugees (many living in freezing tents) as a result of actions by their fellow Arabs, and yet some posters really don't seem to care about these people. Truthfully, it appears that if the Jews are not involved in whatever atrocity is visited upon these unfortunate Arabs, there are those who just close their eyes to it.

Sally, you have got to stop looking for reasoning beyond what is posted...I zeroed in on this Conflict because in my view, it has created terrorism against Americans...Western Colonialism is not part of the American spirit...

Sure I feel awful about the Holocaust and wish a safe-haven for Jews and wish for an acceptable peace and hope that terrorism stops killing Americans at home and in our foolish and unwinnable wars in Asia. Israel should learn this lesson too as this Conflicts borders keep expanding.

Why not tell us why you had nothing to say about the Middle East when you had a chance and still have a chance other than just concentrating on Israel/Palestine? Aren't the Arabs, whether Muslims or Christians, who are being killed, wounded, and made refugees worth your consideration? Meanwhile, I am sure that people who spread out their minds and don't just obsess over the Israel/Palestine conflict realize that there is harassing and killing people in the name of a religion not only in the Middle East but also Southeast Asia and Africa which has nothing to do with Israel, America or any of the other civilized countries.

 

[Phoenall]

On this, I totaly agree....The ME is full of attrocities, but if you count the bodies, Israel has killed the most by far.

I hope they are all brought to International Justice eventually.

Israel killed more than who ??? Who are you comparing Israel to ?

Between Israelis and Palestinians, you know, the Topic of this Thread.

Count all the deaths by the Palestinians and in the Palestinians name and you see that they outnumber Israel's by at least 5 to 1.

 

[Phoenall]

Between Israelis and Palestinians, you know, the Topic of this Thread.

I am curious about what thing, and maybe Pbel will be kind enough to explain it to us. How come, Pbel, you only appeared interested in the Israel/Palestine conflict even when you had a chance (and still have that opportunity) to discuss other issues in the Middle East. It is very difficult to believe that anyone actually cares about the "poor Palestinian Arabs" when he or she overlooks what is happening to those real unfortunate Arabs in other places in the Middle East. We see how many of them have been murdered (tens of thousands in the last few years alone), the amount o wounded must be enormous, and millions have been made refugees (many living in freezing tents) as a result of actions by their fellow Arabs, and yet some posters really don't seem to care about these people. Truthfully, it appears that if the Jews are not involved in whatever atrocity is visited upon these unfortunate Arabs, there are those who just close their eyes to it.

Sally, you have got to stop looking for reasoning beyond what is posted...I zeroed in on this Conflict because in my view, it has created terrorism against Americans...Western Colonialism is not part of the American spirit...

Sure I feel awful about the Holocaust and wish a safe-haven for Jews and wish for an acceptable peace and hope that terrorism stops killing Americans at home and in our foolish and unwinnable wars in Asia. Israel should learn this lesson too as this Conflicts borders keep expanding.

And it is all down to the Palestinians needs to take over other peoples land. Just look at what they did in Lebanon, and tried to do in Egypt and Jordan. Even when they admit to mass murder you deny the fact.

 

[pbel]

Israel killed more than who ??? Who are you comparing Israel to ?

Between Israelis and Palestinians, you know, the Topic of this Thread.

Count all the deaths by the Palestinians and in the Palestinians name and you see that they outnumber Israel's by at least 5 to 1.

You always appear to make wacky statements without proof of veracity...please provide your link to support your statement...
Israeli?Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fatalities 1948–2011

See also: Israeli casualties of war and Palestinian casualties of war

A variety of studies provide differing casualty data for the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, 13,000 Israelis and Palestinians were killed in conflict with each other between 1948 and 1997.[218] Other estimations give 14,500 killed between 1948–2009.[218][219] Palestinian fatalities during the 1982 Lebanon War were 2,000 PLO combatants killed in armed conflict with Israel.[220]


Civilian casualty figures for the Israeli–Palestinian conflict from B'tselem and Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs between 1987 and 2010[221][222][223][224]
(numbers in parentheses represent casualties under age 18)


Year

Deaths


Palestinians

Israelis


2011
118 (13) 11 (5)

2010
81 (9) 8 (0)

2009
1034 (314) 9 (1)

2008
887 (128) 35 (4)

2007
385 (52) 13 (0)

2006
665 (140) 23 (1)

2005
190 (49) 51 (6)

2004
832 (181) 108 (8)

2003
588 (119) 185 (21)

2002
1032 (160) 419 (47)

2001
469 (80) 192 (36)

2000
282 (86) 41 (0)

1999
9 (0) 4 (0)

1998
28 (3) 12 (0)

1997
21 (5) 29 (3)

1996
74 (11) 75 (8)

1995
45 (5) 46 (0)

1994
152 (24) 74 (2)

1993
180 (41) 61 (0)

1992
138 (23) 34 (1)

1991
104 (27) 19 (0)

1990
145 (25) 22 (0)

1989
305 (83) 31 (1)

1988
310 (50) 12 (3)

1987
22 (5) 0 (0)

Total

7978 (1620)

1503 (142)


Note: Figures includes 1,593 Palestinian fatalities attributed to intra-Palestinian violence. Figures do not include the 600 Palestinians killed by other Palestinians in the Gaza Strip since 2006.[137]


Demographic percentages for the Israeli–Palestinian conflict according to Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs from September 2000 until the end of July 2007.[225]


Belligerent

Combatant

Civilian

Male

Female

Children

Children Male

Children Female


Palestinian 41% 59% 94% 6% 20% 87% 13%
Israeli 31% 69% 69% 31% 12% Not available Not available



Partial casualty figures for the Israeli–Palestinian conflict from the OCHAoPt[226]
(numbers in parentheses represent casualties under age 18)


Year

Deaths

Injuries


Palestinians

Israelis

Palestinians

Israelis


2008–26.12.08[227]
464 (87) 31 (4)

2007
396 (43) 13 (0) 1843 (265) 322 (3)

2006
678 (127) 25 (2) 3194 (470) 377 (7)

2005
216 (52) 48 (6) 1260 (129) 484 (4)

Total

1754 (309)

117 (12)

6297 (864)

1183 (14)


All numbers refer to casualties