I will not Bow!

[proudveteran06]

That's real good. Now we know the Palestinians will never have a state.

They can wait...Demographics will do the rest in a one state solution.

Not within the Jewish State. You actually gave one more reason why Israel won't bow to Abbas demands

 

[pbel]

That's real good. Now we know the Palestinians will never have a state.

They can wait...Demographics will do the rest in a one state solution.

Not within the Jewish State. You actually gave one more reason why Israel won't bow to Abbas demands

If the Jewish State annexes the West Bank, the Jewish State would have a Muslim Majority in 20 years, is my guess.

A two state solution is the only option...Although two self ruling Confederate States with free access of travel to Holy places etc. makes more sense to me...In the future perhaps?

 

[Kondor3]

They can wait...Demographics will do the rest in a one state solution.

Not within the Jewish State. You actually gave one more reason why Israel won't bow to Abbas demands

If the Jewish State annexes the West Bank, the Jewish State would have a Muslim Majority in 20 years, is my guess.

A two state solution is the only option...Although two self ruling Confederate States with free access of travel to Holy places etc. makes more sense to me...In the future perhaps?

If Israel annexes the West Bank, it will expel the Palestinians. Future demographics problem solved.

 

[pbel]

Not within the Jewish State. You actually gave one more reason why Israel won't bow to Abbas demands

If the Jewish State annexes the West Bank, the Jewish State would have a Muslim Majority in 20 years, is my guess.

A two state solution is the only option...Although two self ruling Confederate States with free access of travel to Holy places etc. makes more sense to me...In the future perhaps?

If Israel annexes the West Bank, it will expel the Palestinians. Future demographics problem solved.

Israel will never expel the Palestinians, your Rabbi Kahane notions have been declared illegal by the Israelis...talking fantasies of expulsions only marginalizes all your credibility.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

If the Jewish State annexes the West Bank, the Jewish State would have a Muslim Majority in 20 years, is my guess.

A two state solution is the only option...Although two self ruling Confederate States with free access of travel to Holy places etc. makes more sense to me...In the future perhaps?

If Israel annexes the West Bank, it will expel the Palestinians. Future demographics problem solved.

Israel will never expel the Palestinians, your Rabbi Kahane notions have been declared illegal by the Israelis...talking fantasies of expulsions only marginalizes all your credibility.

I agree that Israel won't expel the Palestinians. The world is too obsessed by the Israel/Palestine conflict to let that happen. On the other hand, Russia could expel all the Chechens, and the world wouldn't blink an eye.

 

[pbel]

Its not a question of obsession, its one of oil interests along with a sense of justice...Chechnya has been part of Russia for hundreds of years...your yard stick is way too long and not analogous.

The original partition plan modified and accepted to the 67 borders with freedoms of religious pilgrimages...Ideal!

 

[Phoenall]

They can wait...Demographics will do the rest in a one state solution.

Not within the Jewish State. You actually gave one more reason why Israel won't bow to Abbas demands

If the Jewish State annexes the West Bank, the Jewish State would have a Muslim Majority in 20 years, is my guess.

A two state solution is the only option...Although two self ruling Confederate States with free access of travel to Holy places etc. makes more sense to me...In the future perhaps?

If the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning then it wont matter will it. For the demographics to make a difference the Israelis would need to give the Palestinians Israeli citizenship, otherwise they are just going to have to become terrorists and face summary execution.

I cant see4 the Palestinians changing their charter any time soon and allowing Israelis and Jews free access to the holy sites. Makes more sense to have the UN in control of them and with no weapons allowed within a 1 mile radius other than the multi-national UN guard. Any damage or defilement by either religion will result in that religion losing its access for 100 years.

 

[Phoenall]

Its not a question of obsession, its one of oil interests along with a sense of justice...Chechnya has been part of Russia for hundreds of years...your yard stick is way too long and not analogous.

The original partition plan modified and accepted to the 67 borders with freedoms of religious pilgrimages...Ideal!

No such thing as '67 borders they are an Islamic fallacy, the last recognised boundaries are the ones in place now and that is were the peace deal should be looking.

 

[Indeependent]

Once again the reality of Israel escapes those who don't want to know...
Orthodox Jews are moving to the settlements in droves.
The Palestinians WILL be expelled.
Just not tomorrow or next year; perhaps in 5 years.

 

[pbel]

Its not a question of obsession, its one of oil interests along with a sense of justice...Chechnya has been part of Russia for hundreds of years...your yard stick is way too long and not analogous.

The original partition plan modified and accepted to the 67 borders with freedoms of religious pilgrimages...Ideal!

No such thing as '67 borders they are an Islamic fallacy, the last recognised boundaries are the ones in place now and that is were the peace deal should be looking.

Will you ever stop distorting facts towards delusion? What Recognized borders, and recognized by whom?

Provide a link, and again a sanity certificate.

 

[Indeependent]

Its not a question of obsession, its one of oil interests along with a sense of justice...Chechnya has been part of Russia for hundreds of years...your yard stick is way too long and not analogous.

The original partition plan modified and accepted to the 67 borders with freedoms of religious pilgrimages...Ideal!

No such thing as '67 borders they are an Islamic fallacy, the last recognised boundaries are the ones in place now and that is were the peace deal should be looking.

Will you ever stop distorting facts towards delusion? What Recognized borders, and recognized by whom?

Provide a link, and again a sanity certificate.

It's a concept I just came up with...My military can kick your military's a$$.

 

[Ronin]

No such thing as '67 borders they are an Islamic fallacy, the last recognised boundaries are the ones in place now and that is were the peace deal should be looking.

Will you ever stop distorting facts towards delusion? What Recognized borders, and recognized by whom?

Provide a link, and again a sanity certificate.

It's a concept I just came up with...My military can kick your military's a$$.

Past the debates, historical interpretations, compromises, treaties, and through the course of the world's future: that last statement holds more truth than anything else.

Winners define morality; like a game of tic tac toe.

 

[Phoenall]

Its not a question of obsession, its one of oil interests along with a sense of justice...Chechnya has been part of Russia for hundreds of years...your yard stick is way too long and not analogous.

The original partition plan modified and accepted to the 67 borders with freedoms of religious pilgrimages...Ideal!

No such thing as '67 borders they are an Islamic fallacy, the last recognised boundaries are the ones in place now and that is were the peace deal should be looking.

Will you ever stop distorting facts towards delusion? What Recognized borders, and recognized by whom?

Provide a link, and again a sanity certificate.

It seems that you need to provide one with your calls for borders, I said boundaries which are a different thing all together. But here goes for evidence of the new borders of Israel

Israel's borders under international law & according to the Bible

The 1949 Green Line

The Arab countries refused to sign a permanent peace treaty with Israel, and so the UN arranged a series of ceasefires. UN GA Resolution 194 called for cessation of hostilities and return of refugees. Security Council Resolution 62 called for implementation of armistice (truce/ceasefire) agreements that would lead to permanent peace and as a result Israel's borders were re-established along the so-called "Green Line". This demarcation or armistice line, drawn up under the auspices of UN mediator Ralph Bunche, largely reflected the ceasefire lines of 1949 (Fig 5) and as such represented interim borders for Israel.

 

[pbel]

No such thing as '67 borders they are an Islamic fallacy, the last recognised boundaries are the ones in place now and that is were the peace deal should be looking.

Will you ever stop distorting facts towards delusion? What Recognized borders, and recognized by whom?

Provide a link, and again a sanity certificate.

It seems that you need to provide one with your calls for borders, I said boundaries which are a different thing all together. But here goes for evidence of the new borders of Israel

Israel's borders under international law & according to the Bible
The 1949 Green Line

The Arab countries refused to sign a permanent peace treaty with Israel, and so the UN arranged a series of ceasefires. UN GA Resolution 194 called for cessation of hostilities and return of refugees. Security Council Resolution 62 called for implementation of armistice (truce/ceasefire) agreements that would lead to permanent peace and as a result Israel's borders were re-established along the so-called "Green Line". This demarcation or armistice line, drawn up under the auspices of UN mediator Ralph Bunche, largely reflected the ceasefire lines of 1949 (Fig 5) and as such represented interim borders for Israel.

The usual Double talk expected of you...The Bible of one of the ME Moon gods? No thanks...

 

[Kondor3]

"...Israel will never expel the Palestinians, your Rabbi Kahane notions have been declared illegal by the Israelis...talking fantasies of expulsions only marginalizes all your credibility."

Israel will never expel the Palestinians?

Please continue thinking in that vein, and take the Palestinians along for the mental ride.

That way, it will come as a complete surprise, on Annexation Day.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No such thing as '67 borders they are an Islamic fallacy, the last recognised boundaries are the ones in place now and that is were the peace deal should be looking.

Will you ever stop distorting facts towards delusion? What Recognized borders, and recognized by whom?

Provide a link, and again a sanity certificate.

It seems that you need to provide one with your calls for borders, I said boundaries which are a different thing all together. But here goes for evidence of the new borders of Israel

Israel's borders under international law & according to the Bible

The 1949 Green Line

The Arab countries refused to sign a permanent peace treaty with Israel, and so the UN arranged a series of ceasefires. UN GA Resolution 194 called for cessation of hostilities and return of refugees. Security Council Resolution 62 called for implementation of armistice (truce/ceasefire) agreements that would lead to permanent peace and as a result Israel's borders were re-established along the so-called "Green Line". This demarcation or armistice line, drawn up under the auspices of UN mediator Ralph Bunche, largely reflected the ceasefire lines of 1949 (Fig 5) and as such represented interim borders for Israel.

2. The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary,...

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Here is my link. Where is yours?

 

[Kondor3]

"...Past the debates, historical interpretations, compromises, treaties, and through the course of the world's future: that last statement holds more truth than anything else. Winners define morality; like a game of tic tac toe..."

As cold as it sounds... Right and wrong have nothing to do with it. Fair has nothing to do with it. Law has nothing to do with it. Military muscle dictates the state of affairs on the ground in contested regions.

 

[pbel]

"...Israel will never expel the Palestinians, your Rabbi Kahane notions have been declared illegal by the Israelis...talking fantasies of expulsions only marginalizes all your credibility."

Israel will never expel the Palestinians?

Please continue thinking in that vein, and take the Palestinians along for the mental ride.

That way, it will come as a complete surprise, on Annexation Day.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Israel will never expel the Palestinians, your Rabbi Kahane notions have been declared illegal by the Israelis...talking fantasies of expulsions only marginalizes all your credibility."

Israel will never expel the Palestinians?

Please continue thinking in that vein, and take the Palestinians along for the mental ride.

That way, it will come as a complete surprise, on Annexation Day.

Annexation, eviction and expulsion is the only way for the Iraelis to cut the Gordian Knot and to overcome your own much-vaunted threat of long-term population demographics pressure, if the Israelis want the West Bank and Gaza, or if they find themselves with a one-state solution on their hands.

The Jews have waited for 2000 years to re-take the Holy Land and Jerusalem, and they've paid the price with their blood.

If you think they are going to give any of that up, you're just plain, flat-out wrong.

And if Palestinian population pressure threatens their control of the Holy Land, the only way to fix that is to reduce the population before such a state of affairs can be brought to bear upon the Israelis.

There are two ways to do that:

1. move the IDF into the West Bank and Gaza and slaughter every living soul and every living thing that moves, and bulldoze the bodies into the earth.

2. evict them and deport them to other countries.

The Jews won't do (1)... too inhumane, and too much like what was done to them by Euro-Trash, and too much like what the Arab-Muslims threatened to do to them. The Jews are better than that.

That leaves (2).

Negotiations will not work. Peace talks will not work. (2) is going to prove to be the only answer that leaves Israel intact,defensible and sustainable, and without future threat from inside its borders.

You go right ahead and keep calling it 'nuts'.

One of these days, once this very same thing is making the headlines, I'll remind you of this exchange.

Peoples are expelled all the time.

The Arabs-Muslims expelled nearly 1,000,000 Jews from their own countries in the 1948-1975 timeframe, without so much as a wrist-slap.

This will be no different, and it will yield peace for a while, once the dust clears, because the Palestinians will be broken-up and scattered and no longer living a stone's throw away.

The world will wag its finger, then breathe a sigh of relief, and enjoy the peace and quiet, and quickly forget.

The Arabs did it to the Jews.

Now it's the Arabs' turn in the barrel.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Israel will never expel the Palestinians?

Please continue thinking in that vein, and take the Palestinians along for the mental ride.

That way, it will come as a complete surprise, on Annexation Day.

Annexation, eviction and expulsion is the only way for the Iraelis to cut the Gordian Knot and to overcome your own much-vaunted threat of long-term population demographics pressure, if the Israelis want the West Bank and Gaza, or if they find themselves with a one-state solution on their hands.

The Jews have waited for 2000 years to re-take the Holy Land and Jerusalem, and they've paid the price with their blood.

If you think they are going to give any of that up, you're just plain, flat-out wrong.

And if Palestinian population pressure threatens their control of the Holy Land, the only way to fix that is to reduce the population before such a state of affairs can be brought to bear upon the Israelis.

There are two ways to do that:

1. move the IDF into the West Bank and Gaza and slaughter every living soul and every living thing that moves, and bulldoze the bodies into the earth.

2. evict them and deport them to other countries.

The Jews won't do (1)... too inhumane, and too much like what was done to them by Euro-Trash, and too much like what the Arab-Muslims threatened to do to them. The Jews are better than that.

That leaves (2).

Negotiations will not work. Peace talks will not work. (2) is going to prove to be the only answer that leaves Israel intact,defensible and sustainable, and without future threat from inside its borders.

You go right ahead and keep calling it 'nuts'.

One of these days, once this very same thing is making the headlines, I'll remind you of this exchange.

Peoples are expelled all the time.

The Arabs-Muslims expelled nearly 1,000,000 Jews from their own countries in the 1948-1975 timeframe, without so much as a wrist-slap.

This will be no different, and it will yield peace for a while, once the dust clears, because the Palestinians will be broken-up and scattered and no longer living a stone's throw away.

The world will wag its finger, then breathe a sigh of relief, and enjoy the peace and quiet, and quickly forget.

The Arabs did it to the Jews.

Now it's the Arabs' turn in the barrel.

This would work fine in a best-case scenario. But don't you think that the world is obsessed with the Palestinians, in a way that they aren't with the Kurds or Chechens or Cypriots?