I thought Afghanistan was the "good war"???

[PatekPhilippe]

Now...check your fucked up attitude at the door and I'll do the same.

And then in your very next response to me...

more for Duh?

Now...lets hope you learned something here today.

Have all your ducks in a row before shooting your mouth off.

Oh my...***t sure lasted long...

Actually that last response was quite tame coming from me...be thankful I stuck to my word.
Have a nice day.

 

[Huh?]

Now...check your fucked up attitude at the door and I'll do the same.

And then in your very next response to me...

more for Duh?

Now...lets hope you learned something here today.

Have all your ducks in a row before shooting your mouth off.

Oh my...***t sure lasted long...

Actually that last response was quite tame coming from me...be thankful I stuck to my word.
Have a nice day.

Whatever you say Peckerwood, you do the same.

 

[Si modo]

If Glaspie didn't think she was giving Saddam a green light why did she later say she had no idea he would take all of Kuwait?

source for that?

Damn Dive...it's easy enough to find but I'm not going to waste much time on you if you've never even heard about that and don't even know what her correct name is...go ahead and sling some more of your bullshit.

How idiotic. You make a claim, the burden is on you to support it. Until you do, your claim is logically assumed to have no substance (ie. bullshit).

 

[Huh?]

source for that?

Damn Dive...it's easy enough to find but I'm not going to waste much time on you if you've never even heard about that and don't even know what her correct name is...go ahead and sling some more of your bullshit.

How idiotic. You make a claim, the burden is on you to support it. Until you do, your claim is logically assumed to have no substance (ie. bullshit).

Well Sigh, one thing obvious about you is that you are an expert when it comes to bullshit, and another is that it probably doesn't matter what I present, you will find some fault in it so why don't you go ahead and get in the last word...I've better things to do than play your stupid little games.

 

[Si modo]

Damn Dive...it's easy enough to find but I'm not going to waste much time on you if you've never even heard about that and don't even know what her correct name is...go ahead and sling some more of your bullshit.

How idiotic. You make a claim, the burden is on you to support it. Until you do, your claim is logically assumed to have no substance (ie. bullshit).

Well Sigh, one thing obvious about you is that you are an expert when it comes to bullshit, and another is that it probably doesn't matter what I present, you will find some fault in it so why don't you go ahead and get in the last word...I've better things to do than play your stupid little games.

LMAO. Now, when you cannot meet your burden, you play the victim card? Neither do anything to make your claim about Glaspie giving a green light have any more substance.

You are a disaster.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Damn Dive...it's easy enough to find but I'm not going to waste much time on you if you've never even heard about that and don't even know what her correct name is...go ahead and sling some more of your bullshit.

How idiotic. You make a claim, the burden is on you to support it. Until you do, your claim is logically assumed to have no substance (ie. bullshit).

Well Sigh, one thing obvious about you is that you are an expert when it comes to bullshit, and another is that it probably doesn't matter what I present, you will find some fault in it so why don't you go ahead and get in the last word...I've better things to do than play your stupid little games.

You made the claim, as ridiculous as it was, it's now on you to provide the proof.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

How idiotic. You make a claim, the burden is on you to support it. Until you do, your claim is logically assumed to have no substance (ie. bullshit).

Well Sigh, one thing obvious about you is that you are an expert when it comes to bullshit, and another is that it probably doesn't matter what I present, you will find some fault in it so why don't you go ahead and get in the last word...I've better things to do than play your stupid little games.

LMAO. Now, when you cannot meet your burden, you play the victim card? Neither do anything to make your claim about Glaspie giving a green light have any more substance.

You are a disaster.

Si...Huh?'s a fricken douchebag lib...one of those types that makes horseshit claims with no proof or any factual information, is a lap dog psychophant to other posters who are perceived to be "all powerful", get's DNC talking points to make straw man arguments against anyone who isn't a libtard and a general nuisance. Read their posts and get a chuckle or 2 when they make a fool out of themselves then understand you're dealing with someone who's not exactly in possession of all of their mental faculties.

 

[Intense]

Well Sigh, one thing obvious about you is that you are an expert when it comes to bullshit, and another is that it probably doesn't matter what I present, you will find some fault in it so why don't you go ahead and get in the last word...I've better things to do than play your stupid little games.

LMAO. Now, when you cannot meet your burden, you play the victim card? Neither do anything to make your claim about Glaspie giving a green light have any more substance.

You are a disaster.

Si...Huh?'s a fricken douchebag lib...one of those types that makes horseshit claims with no proof or any factual information, is a lap dog psychophant to other posters who are perceived to be "all powerful", get's DNC talking points to make straw man arguments against anyone who isn't a libtard and a general nuisance. Read their posts and get a chuckle or 2 when they make a fool out of themselves then understand you're dealing with someone who's not exactly in possession of all of their mental faculties.

Wouldn't you be used to that working DOD, having to deal with the State Department?

 

[Huh?]

How idiotic. You make a claim, the burden is on you to support it. Until you do, your claim is logically assumed to have no substance (ie. bullshit).

Well Sigh, one thing obvious about you is that you are an expert when it comes to bullshit, and another is that it probably doesn't matter what I present, you will find some fault in it so why don't you go ahead and get in the last word...I've better things to do than play your stupid little games.

You made the claim, as ridiculous as it was, it's now on you to provide the proof.

One month later in Baghdad, British journalists obtained the tape and transcript of the Saddam Hussein-April Glaspie meeting on July 25, 1990. In order to verify this astounding information, they attempted to confront Ms Glaspie as she was leaving the US embassy in Baghdad.
Journalist 1:
"Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?"
(Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)
Journalist 2:
"You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait), but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"
US Ambassador Glaspie:
"Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You thought he was just going to take SOME of it? But how COULD YOU?! Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed, he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab Waterway) goal for the WHOLE of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You KNOW that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as a historic part of their country!"
(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing, pushing past the two journalists to leave)

Here is the link to this particular recounting which people can shoot the messenger...

Whatever Happened to April Glaspie?

But simply google "Glaspie take all of Kuwait" and you can search until you find a source considered acceptable...if you wish.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

LMAO. Now, when you cannot meet your burden, you play the victim card? Neither do anything to make your claim about Glaspie giving a green light have any more substance.

You are a disaster.

Si...Huh?'s a fricken douchebag lib...one of those types that makes horseshit claims with no proof or any factual information, is a lap dog psychophant to other posters who are perceived to be "all powerful", get's DNC talking points to make straw man arguments against anyone who isn't a libtard and a general nuisance. Read their posts and get a chuckle or 2 when they make a fool out of themselves then understand you're dealing with someone who's not exactly in possession of all of their mental faculties.

Wouldn't you be used to that working DOD, having to deal with the State Department?

We don't have too much contact with State other than when we do a "Doctors without Borders" mission. We have one coming up next year with the USNS Mercy.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Well Sigh, one thing obvious about you is that you are an expert when it comes to bullshit, and another is that it probably doesn't matter what I present, you will find some fault in it so why don't you go ahead and get in the last word...I've better things to do than play your stupid little games.

You made the claim, as ridiculous as it was, it's now on you to provide the proof.

One month later in Baghdad, British journalists obtained the tape and transcript of the Saddam Hussein-April Glaspie meeting on July 25, 1990. In order to verify this astounding information, they attempted to confront Ms Glaspie as she was leaving the US embassy in Baghdad.
Journalist 1:
"Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?"
(Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)
Journalist 2:
"You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait), but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"
US Ambassador Glaspie:
"Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You thought he was just going to take SOME of it? But how COULD YOU?! Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed, he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab Waterway) goal for the WHOLE of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You KNOW that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as a historic part of their country!"
(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing, pushing past the two journalists to leave)

Here is the link to this particular recounting which people can shoot the messenger...

Whatever Happened to April Glaspie?

But simply google "Glaspie take all of Kuwait" and you can search until you find a source considered acceptable...if you wish.

This whole April Glaspie thing is a fricken joke......there are so many versions..ALL UNCONFIRMED THAT THEY ARE FACTUALLY CORRECT.

 

[DiveCon]

Well Sigh, one thing obvious about you is that you are an expert when it comes to bullshit, and another is that it probably doesn't matter what I present, you will find some fault in it so why don't you go ahead and get in the last word...I've better things to do than play your stupid little games.

You made the claim, as ridiculous as it was, it's now on you to provide the proof.

One month later in Baghdad, British journalists obtained the tape and transcript of the Saddam Hussein-April Glaspie meeting on July 25, 1990. In order to verify this astounding information, they attempted to confront Ms Glaspie as she was leaving the US embassy in Baghdad.
Journalist 1:
"Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?"
(Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)
Journalist 2:
"You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait), but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"
US Ambassador Glaspie:
"Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You thought he was just going to take SOME of it? But how COULD YOU?! Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed, he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab Waterway) goal for the WHOLE of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You KNOW that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as a historic part of their country!"
(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing, pushing past the two journalists to leave)

Here is the link to this particular recounting which people can shoot the messenger...

Whatever Happened to April Glaspie?

But simply google "Glaspie take all of Kuwait" and you can search until you find a source considered acceptable...if you wish.

ok, assuming that is accurate
how does that say she had any idea they would have taken ANY of Kuwait by military means?
you are TRYING very hard to make that say something it flat out DOESN'T

 

[wethepeople]

obama is a pretty puppet!! the real prez is david axelrod!!! wake up obamaloonies!!!

 

[Huh?]

You made the claim, as ridiculous as it was, it's now on you to provide the proof.

One month later in Baghdad, British journalists obtained the tape and transcript of the Saddam Hussein-April Glaspie meeting on July 25, 1990. In order to verify this astounding information, they attempted to confront Ms Glaspie as she was leaving the US embassy in Baghdad.
Journalist 1:
"Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?"
(Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)
Journalist 2:
"You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait), but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"
US Ambassador Glaspie:
"Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You thought he was just going to take SOME of it? But how COULD YOU?! Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed, he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab Waterway) goal for the WHOLE of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You KNOW that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as a historic part of their country!"
(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing, pushing past the two journalists to leave)

Here is the link to this particular recounting which people can shoot the messenger...

Whatever Happened to April Glaspie?

But simply google "Glaspie take all of Kuwait" and you can search until you find a source considered acceptable...if you wish.

ok, assuming that is accurate
how does that say she had any idea they would have taken ANY of Kuwait by military means?
you are TRYING very hard to make that say something it flat out DOESN'T

Come on Dive...look at the question she responded to...you're trying to spin big time...

"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"

Why didn't she just say something like, "That is not correct"...no, she tried to rationalize, to justify...that dog don't hunt, sorry, I thought you were better than that but you are not even wishing to look at this with an open mind, "flat out DOESN'T"...areyoushittin'me?

 

[Si modo]

One month later in Baghdad, British journalists obtained the tape and transcript of the Saddam Hussein-April Glaspie meeting on July 25, 1990. In order to verify this astounding information, they attempted to confront Ms Glaspie as she was leaving the US embassy in Baghdad.
Journalist 1:
"Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?"
(Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)
Journalist 2:
"You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait), but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"
US Ambassador Glaspie:
"Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You thought he was just going to take SOME of it? But how COULD YOU?! Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed, he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab Waterway) goal for the WHOLE of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You KNOW that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as a historic part of their country!"
(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing, pushing past the two journalists to leave)

Here is the link to this particular recounting which people can shoot the messenger...

Whatever Happened to April Glaspie?

But simply google "Glaspie take all of Kuwait" and you can search until you find a source considered acceptable...if you wish.

ok, assuming that is accurate
how does that say she had any idea they would have taken ANY of Kuwait by military means?
you are TRYING very hard to make that say something it flat out DOESN'T

Come on Dive...look at the question she responded to...you're trying to spin big time...

"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"

Why didn't she just say something like, "That is not correct"...no, she tried to rationalize, to justify...that dog don't hunt, sorry, I thought you were better than that but you are not even wishing to look at this with an open mind, "flat out DOESN'T"...areyoushittin'me?

I propose that anyone who believes that Hussein's decision to invade Kuwait was based, even partially, on anything that an ambassador said is nuts.

 

[DiveCon]

One month later in Baghdad, British journalists obtained the tape and transcript of the Saddam Hussein-April Glaspie meeting on July 25, 1990. In order to verify this astounding information, they attempted to confront Ms Glaspie as she was leaving the US embassy in Baghdad.
Journalist 1:
"Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?"
(Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)
Journalist 2:
"You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait), but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"
US Ambassador Glaspie:
"Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait."
Journalist 1:
"You thought he was just going to take SOME of it? But how COULD YOU?! Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed, he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab Waterway) goal for the WHOLE of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You KNOW that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as a historic part of their country!"
(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing, pushing past the two journalists to leave)

Here is the link to this particular recounting which people can shoot the messenger...

Whatever Happened to April Glaspie?

But simply google "Glaspie take all of Kuwait" and you can search until you find a source considered acceptable...if you wish.

ok, assuming that is accurate
how does that say she had any idea they would have taken ANY of Kuwait by military means?
you are TRYING very hard to make that say something it flat out DOESN'T

Come on Dive...look at the question she responded to...you're trying to spin big time...

"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"

Why didn't she just say something like, "That is not correct"...no, she tried to rationalize, to justify...that dog don't hunt, sorry, I thought you were better than that but you are not even wishing to look at this with an open mind, "flat out DOESN'T"...areyoushittin'me?

no, you are the one doing the spin
but, thats mostly what you do do

 

[Huh?]

ok, assuming that is accurate
how does that say she had any idea they would have taken ANY of Kuwait by military means?
you are TRYING very hard to make that say something it flat out DOESN'T

Come on Dive...look at the question she responded to...you're trying to spin big time...

"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"

Why didn't she just say something like, "That is not correct"...no, she tried to rationalize, to justify...that dog don't hunt, sorry, I thought you were better than that but you are not even wishing to look at this with an open mind, "flat out DOESN'T"...areyoushittin'me?

no, you are the one doing the spin
but, thats mostly what you do do

Well then, why don't you explain just exactly what she meant by it.

 

[Si modo]

Come on Dive...look at the question she responded to...you're trying to spin big time...

"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"

Why didn't she just say something like, "That is not correct"...no, she tried to rationalize, to justify...that dog don't hunt, sorry, I thought you were better than that but you are not even wishing to look at this with an open mind, "flat out DOESN'T"...areyoushittin'me?

no, you are the one doing the spin
but, thats mostly what you do do

Well then, why don't you explain just exactly what she meant by it.

Does it matter in Hussein's decision to invade Kuwait?

 

[DiveCon]

Come on Dive...look at the question she responded to...you're trying to spin big time...

"You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"

Why didn't she just say something like, "That is not correct"...no, she tried to rationalize, to justify...that dog don't hunt, sorry, I thought you were better than that but you are not even wishing to look at this with an open mind, "flat out DOESN'T"...areyoushittin'me?

no, you are the one doing the spin
but, thats mostly what you do do

Well then, why don't you explain just exactly what she meant by it.

ya know those "ambush interviews" that O'Reilly does and most libs hate?

thats exactly what that looks like
so i wont put any words in her mouth from something like that

 

[Huh?]

no, you are the one doing the spin
but, thats mostly what you do do

Well then, why don't you explain just exactly what she meant by it.

ya know those "ambush interviews" that O'Reilly does and most libs hate?

thats exactly what that looks like
so i wont put any words in her mouth from something like that

ROFLMAO...you're prepared to tell me what she "flat out DOESN'T" say but you "won't put words in her mouth" to tell me what she DOES say...you're too funny...as usual, I end up wondering why I even bother with you....g'night.