Bernie, for people who want the infrastructure of the USSR.
The USSR competed with America for over 50 years. They had a powerful airforce, a respectable navy and 2/3rds of our economic power...
They were the first to send a probe to venus, first man in space and first satellite! A huge nuclear set up too boot.
China is now the second most powerful nation on earth and it is pretty ******* socialistic!!!
I actually hope this thread turns into a discussion of the USSR, that'll be fun.
China, arguably, isn't socialist, they are simply socialist by name, I've seen some communists from china discuss socialism with chinese characteristics as being a valid socialist model, but I disagree, china is capitalist.
I actually hope this thread turns into a discussion of the USSR, that'll be fun.
Or Venezuela! They're looting grocery stores now.
Some shining socialist future they're working on, eh comrade?
Oh god, nothing better then failing to understand venezuela and cherry picking particular periods.
Venezuela's problem is it is ran by idiots that don't believe in infrastructure, science, r&d, and education. Simply put they unlike all social democracy that most of the first world uses
don't attempt to make more and use & develop what their citizens can do. Instead,,,such countries as cuba, Venezuela and Vietnam kick their people to the ground and say we're not going to invest in you or the country!!! Sounds kind of like our conservative friends but instead of the corporations kicking people to the ground it is a visionless thug doing it.
This is why infrastructure, science, r&d and education are so important!!!