I dont get it, why would progressive slaves vote for the very freedoms that allow them to be free?

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We won WWII because of the excellent leadership of FDR.......
Bullshit. We won despite that scumbag.
You voted for Trump after he put Mexican kids in cages. ...
You don't know who I voted for or why, you damn fool. The detention areas obama built were not concentration camps. The concentration camps the scumbag fdr built were.
We know why based on your snide little comments about liberals and democrats.
 

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We won WWII because of the excellent leadership of FDR.......
Bullshit. We won despite that scumbag.
Your personal revisionist history?

Can't stand the truth??
Yup. Some Sloppy Joe on a messageboard thinks he knows history.
Playing the apologist for the worst scumbag ever to soil the Oval Office is worse than ignorant.
No one but you and some asians [sic] see it this way.
Wrong again.
The history you talk about when you discuss FDR is buried deep down in his story.

Roosevelt was viewed as a hero by many African Americans, Catholics, and Jews, and he was highly successful in attracting large majorities of these voters into his New Deal coalition.[331] He won strong support from Chinese Americans and Filipino Americans, but not Japanese Americans, as he presided over their internment in concentration camps during the war.

The attack on Pearl Harbor raised concerns in the public regarding the possibility of sabotage by Japanese Americans. This suspicion was fed by long-standing racism against Japanese immigrants, as well as the findings of the Roberts Commission, which concluded that the attack on Pearl Harbor had been assisted by Japanese spies. On February 19, 1942, President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, which relocated hundreds of thousands of the Japanese-American citizens and immigrants. They were forced to liquidate their properties and businesses and interned in hastily built camps in interior, harsh locations. Distracted by other issues, Roosevelt had delegated the decision for internment to Secretary of War Stimson, who in turn relied on the judgment of Assistant Secretary of War John J. McCloy. The Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the executive order in the 1944 case of Korematsu v. United States.[337] Many German and Italian citizens were also arrested or placed into internment camps.
 

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We won WWII because of the excellent leadership of FDR.......
Bullshit. We won despite that scumbag.
You voted for Trump after he put Mexican kids in cages. ...
You don't know who I voted for or why, you damn fool. The detention areas obama built were not concentration camps. The concentration camps the scumbag fdr built were.
We know ....
No you don't, brainless.
 

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We won WWII because of the excellent leadership of FDR.......
Bullshit. We won despite that scumbag.
Your personal revisionist history?

Can't stand the truth??
Yup. Some Sloppy Joe on a messageboard thinks he knows history.
Playing the apologist for the worst scumbag ever to soil the Oval Office is worse than ignorant.
No one but you and some asians [sic] see it this way.
Wrong again.
The history you talk about when you discuss FDR is buried deep down in his story.

Roosevelt was viewed as a hero by many African Americans, Catholics, and Jews,...
That is a tremendously ignorant comment.
 

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We won WWII because of the excellent leadership of FDR.......
Bullshit. We won despite that scumbag.
Your personal revisionist history?

Can't stand the truth??
Yup. Some Sloppy Joe on a messageboard thinks he knows history.
Playing the apologist for the worst scumbag ever to soil the Oval Office is worse than ignorant.
No one but you and some asians [sic] see it this way.
Wrong again.
The history you talk about when you discuss FDR is buried deep down in his story.

Roosevelt was viewed as a hero by many African Americans, Catholics, and Jews, and he was highly successful in attracting large majorities of these voters into his New Deal coalition.[331] He won strong support from Chinese Americans and Filipino Americans, but not Japanese Americans, as he presided over their internment in concentration camps during the war.

The attack on Pearl Harbor raised concerns in the public regarding the possibility of sabotage by Japanese Americans. This suspicion was fed by long-standing racism against Japanese immigrants, as well as the findings of the Roberts Commission, which concluded that the attack on Pearl Harbor had been assisted by Japanese spies. On February 19, 1942, President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, which relocated hundreds of thousands of the Japanese-American citizens and immigrants. They were forced to liquidate their properties and businesses and interned in hastily built camps in interior, harsh locations. Distracted by other issues, Roosevelt had delegated the decision for internment to Secretary of War Stimson, who in turn relied on the judgment of Assistant Secretary of War John J. McCloy. The Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the executive order in the 1944 case of Korematsu v. United States.[337] Many German and Italian citizens were also arrested or placed into internment camps.
Instead of posting plagiarism, why not post your own thoughts on the subject (if you are capable of forming any)?
 

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Nonsense. If a poor little black kid gets cancer, he should get the same treatment that a guy making $500,000 a year gets.
I agree everyone gets treated the same. Free heathcare for all!

UNLESS of course that rich guy has supplimental insurance which I'm sure rich people will get if we passed universal healthcare.

But at least our poorest people will be treated when they are sick. No more will they be denied because they don't have insurance.
What? Now you want it to remain as it is?

Would you please make up your mind.

And no one is suggesting everyone make $15 hr. That's just right wing babble talk.
If your college education is free what more do you need?

Everyone is equal it's the Great Reset!!!

So it's only $15.00 an hour for everyone no exceptions.

Be happy with that letter of achievement for helping mankind because expecting financial awards just makes you a greedy capitalistic bastard.

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Maybe collectively we can do better. ...
Every time those words have been uttered by someone with a lot of guns, millions of people have died (starting with stupid farm animals like you).
You know who else keeps saying we are all in this together? A lot of CEO's of Americans companies

True to form, since the COVID-19 pandemic emerged, brands have been quick to invoke ambiguous yet arguably commodified notions of connectivity, care and community, in the service of capitalism.

Of course the CEOs of major corporations are all on board with collectivism - concentrating the power is the most reliable way for them to not only seize it but ensure that no one else is able to topple them and take their place.

I will never understand why it is such a hard concept to understand that large corporate power LOVES powerful government - they are the butter to their bread.
So now you are anti large corporations and the power they have over our government? Finally we are on the same page.
I have always been against the power of large corporations. You, OTOH, are advocating for just that with this thread, it is what large government represents.
 

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So, the mantra of the progressive left is Orange Man bad, orange man bad.
But lets see what the progressive Masters are offering the people of the United States.
1. Free education, but who will pay for it, because nothing in life is free, Billionaires? Not all the billionaires in the world can pay for all the free education.
2. Free healthcare, and again, do doctors, nurses work for free, and are medical supplies somewhat costly to make?
3. A guaranteed $1,500 a month check from the government, who ends up paying for that?

Now, with what is going on, with the One Party control, of the media , education and politics, seems that the 1st amendment is under attack and will soon be takem away, but not until guns are taken away from the free people.
With the violence of the left, who is burning, looting and murdering in the progressive streets of blue cities, the prog masters want to ban certain types of weapon that make a large noise and sends a projectile out of the font of it. Knives, forks, spoons, hammers, bombs, cars, and other weapons will be dealt with later, but to the progs the 2nd amendment must go.
After the 2nd amendment is gone, and free people can no longer stand up to tyrannical governments, soon all the other rights under the constitution are also gone, thus making uneducated progs, slaves of their masters..


Why is it that every other developed nation can afford free healthcare and education, but the U.S. can not?

Why are the 'European Socialist' countries ranked higher than the U.S. in quality of life?

A lot of it has to do with the fact that the US shoulders the cost of defense for all of those nations. You can talk all you want about what the average joe gets in those nations but it is rather clear that our system generates not only prosperity that far outstrips any other nation but also innovation.
US spends a lot on defence but against who? EU could beat Russia in a conventional war in about a couple of weeks...

US has left themselves wide open to cyber attack.

This isn't shoulder the cost thing, the US got themselves into very costly wars (Iraq and Afgan) which were pretty unnecessary and are not sabre rattling with Iran... It is not Europe's fault they thought they were misadventures in the middle east, they were right.

We are just showing that this idea that US is number one at everything is just not true... Germany has lower unemployment, a surplus, free Third level education, universal heath insurance, environmental standards, low crime, elections that don't end up in a farce...
And they do that with out a 11 million sub class workers who have very limited right....

I am not saying America is wrong but this constant accusation that universal heathcare and free third level education is communism is just ridiculous OR you are saying that communist countries can be successful... So can you explain how Germany is so successful by doing all these evil things like looking after workers....
Germany is flooded with Muslims who have been raping their woman.
I guess you never read Lucy Hamilton's posts.
Usual bullshit...

Germany crime levels are way lower than US... The police in Germany a few years ago shot in total 120 bullets for the whole year in the whole country.

Rape levels way lower too... So you are trying to scaremonger a far safer country... Murder is lest than a fifth of US.
Germany doesnt have the prog ghettos anymore since the iron works were removed after WWII. Also that country is about 95% white, while the prog slaves of the inner city are murdering each other, but this isnt what Burning Looting and Murder are fighting for, it is the one white cop shooting the one black criminal, and the BLM guess what? Burn loot and murder minority businesses.


But here is why Germany doesnt have the dumbass inner city problem that we do.

Largest Ethnic Groups In Germany - WorldAtlas


6African German1.0%


I mean come on man if you didnt vote for Joe, you aint black enough......
Lets start 20% of the people living in Germany were not born in Germany...

This is a larger immigration population percentage than the US (14.1%)... 5% of Germans are Muslim...

So a lot of what you are saying is just crap... Big thing is they offer free education to immigrants including third level.... US likes to say you were born poor and we have ours and no one is getting a helping hand...

Germany have figured out a long time ago that a certified engineer is not likely to mug you at night no matter what the colour of his skin or the God he believes in...
 

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So, the mantra of the progressive left is Orange Man bad, orange man bad.
But lets see what the progressive Masters are offering the people of the United States.
1. Free education, but who will pay for it, because nothing in life is free, Billionaires? Not all the billionaires in the world can pay for all the free education.
2. Free healthcare, and again, do doctors, nurses work for free, and are medical supplies somewhat costly to make?
3. A guaranteed $1,500 a month check from the government, who ends up paying for that?

Now, with what is going on, with the One Party control, of the media , education and politics, seems that the 1st amendment is under attack and will soon be takem away, but not until guns are taken away from the free people.
With the violence of the left, who is burning, looting and murdering in the progressive streets of blue cities, the prog masters want to ban certain types of weapon that make a large noise and sends a projectile out of the font of it. Knives, forks, spoons, hammers, bombs, cars, and other weapons will be dealt with later, but to the progs the 2nd amendment must go.
After the 2nd amendment is gone, and free people can no longer stand up to tyrannical governments, soon all the other rights under the constitution are also gone, thus making uneducated progs, slaves of their masters..


Why is it that every other developed nation can afford free healthcare and education, but the U.S. can not?

Why are the 'European Socialist' countries ranked higher than the U.S. in quality of life?

A lot of it has to do with the fact that the US shoulders the cost of defense for all of those nations. You can talk all you want about what the average joe gets in those nations but it is rather clear that our system generates not only prosperity that far outstrips any other nation but also innovation.
US spends a lot on defence but against who? EU could beat Russia in a conventional war in about a couple of weeks...
I doubt that tbh, the EU may have the tech which has a lot to do with their partnership with the US, but they are a small fraction of what we have in overall military capability.

It is not against any particular threat either. It is more about keeping the world out of major wars, something that has notibly decreased since the US took the lead as the main global superpower.

US has left themselves wide open to cyber attack.

This isn't shoulder the cost thing, the US got themselves into very costly wars (Iraq and Afgan) which were pretty unnecessary and are not sabre rattling with Iran... It is not Europe's fault they thought they were misadventures in the middle east, they were right.
Yes, it is even if we have made major errors in judgment in trying to do something that should or cannot be done.
We are just showing that this idea that US is number one at everything is just not true... Germany has lower unemployment, a surplus, free Third level education, universal heath insurance, environmental standards, low crime, elections that don't end up in a farce...
And they do that with out a 11 million sub class workers who have very limited right....

I am not saying America is wrong but this constant accusation that universal heathcare and free third level education is communism is just ridiculous OR you are saying that communist countries can be successful... So can you explain how Germany is so successful by doing all these evil things like looking after workers....
I have not and never stated to my knowledge that universal healthcare makes a nation communist. If I did my statements were incorrect. It is a socialist way in running those institution however and there is an argument as to weather or not running those systems in a socialistic manner is superior to a commercial one - particularly when it comes to education. The US has the best educational institution in the world and it is our public education system that is not up to par. The private one is generally really damn good at what they do.
I will be fair and ask you to show us a Commercial Healthcare system that is being run universal and efficiently as say Germany's Healthcare system (just using Germany as an example)...

As for Education... US has issues in education..
American Schools vs. the World: Expensive, Unequal, Bad at Math
(look at the graph with a look at Mathematics, US has less high performers too)...

"The U.S. ranks fifth in spending per student. Only Austria, Luxembourg, Norway, and Switzerland spend more per student. To put this in context: the Slovak Republic, which scores similarly to the U.S., spends $53,000 per student. The U.S. spends $115,000. The PISA report notes that, among OECD countries, “higher expenditure on education is not highly predictive of better mathematics scores in PISA.”"

So US spends the money... US spends more than Finland (the guys to beat for Europeans)...


Finish schools actually outperform US private schools...

I will tell you from experience that US students struggle in Europe (student exchanges) even from IVY league universities... The European universities pick generally on academic merit. Public is free(or the cheapest) and gets the best choice, you go Private when you were too dumb to get in on academic merit...
So do you want the brightest students or the private rejects... The brightest in US actually get Scholarships like Bill Clinton, this is used to keep the grades high and to have high achieving students coming out of there courses...
Europe has very few scholarships as the Government pays fees and maintenance payments to low wage families..

There is also the attitude to education... In Finland you need a degree (3 years) to become a police officer.. Most of Europe is 2years+... US the average is 12 weeks (600hrs).
 

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We won WWII because of the excellent leadership of FDR.......
Bullshit. We won despite that scumbag.
Your personal revisionist history?

Can't stand the truth??
Yup. Some Sloppy Joe on a messageboard thinks he knows history.
Playing the apologist for the worst scumbag ever to soil the Oval Office is worse than ignorant.
No one but you and some asians [sic] see it this way.
Wrong again.
The history you talk about when you discuss FDR is buried deep down in his story.

Roosevelt was viewed as a hero by many African Americans, Catholics, and Jews, and he was highly successful in attracting large majorities of these voters into his New Deal coalition.[331] He won strong support from Chinese Americans and Filipino Americans, but not Japanese Americans, as he presided over their internment in concentration camps during the war.

The attack on Pearl Harbor raised concerns in the public regarding the possibility of sabotage by Japanese Americans. This suspicion was fed by long-standing racism against Japanese immigrants, as well as the findings of the Roberts Commission, which concluded that the attack on Pearl Harbor had been assisted by Japanese spies. On February 19, 1942, President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, which relocated hundreds of thousands of the Japanese-American citizens and immigrants. They were forced to liquidate their properties and businesses and interned in hastily built camps in interior, harsh locations. Distracted by other issues, Roosevelt had delegated the decision for internment to Secretary of War Stimson, who in turn relied on the judgment of Assistant Secretary of War John J. McCloy. The Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the executive order in the 1944 case of Korematsu v. United States.[337] Many German and Italian citizens were also arrested or placed into internment camps.
Instead of posting plagiarism, why not post your own thoughts on the subject (if you are capable of forming any)?
You never post your thoughts. The only thoughts you post are that you think we are wrong. Not why of course. Just that you THINK we are wrong. Bye
 

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Nonsense. If a poor little black kid gets cancer, he should get the same treatment that a guy making $500,000 a year gets.
I agree everyone gets treated the same. Free heathcare for all!

UNLESS of course that rich guy has supplimental insurance which I'm sure rich people will get if we passed universal healthcare.

But at least our poorest people will be treated when they are sick. No more will they be denied because they don't have insurance.
What? Now you want it to remain as it is?

Would you please make up your mind.

And no one is suggesting everyone make $15 hr. That's just right wing babble talk.
If your college education is free what more do you need?

Everyone is equal it's the Great Reset!!!

So it's only $15.00 an hour for everyone no exceptions.

Be happy with that letter of achievement for helping mankind because expecting financial awards just makes you a greedy capitalistic bastard.

View attachment 423891

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
You talk about free college as if you didn't grow up in a society that gives "free" k-12 educations to every child.

There are some pretty expensive private schools in America. If you don't like the free college that is provided you can go to private colleges. I'm sure Duke and Harvard wouldn't be free. University of Michigan wouldn't be free. But Eastern Michigan and Western Michigan would be free.
 

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Nonsense. If a poor little black kid gets cancer, he should get the same treatment that a guy making $500,000 a year gets.
I agree everyone gets treated the same. Free heathcare for all!

UNLESS of course that rich guy has supplimental insurance which I'm sure rich people will get if we passed universal healthcare.

But at least our poorest people will be treated when they are sick. No more will they be denied because they don't have insurance.
What? Now you want it to remain as it is?

Would you please make up your mind.

And no one is suggesting everyone make $15 hr. That's just right wing babble talk.
If your college education is free what more do you need?

Everyone is equal it's the Great Reset!!!

So it's only $15.00 an hour for everyone no exceptions.

Be happy with that letter of achievement for helping mankind because expecting financial awards just makes you a greedy capitalistic bastard.

View attachment 423891

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
You talk about free college as if you didn't grow up in a society that gives "free" k-12 educations to every child.

There are some pretty expensive private schools in America. If you don't like the free college that is provided you can go to private colleges. I'm sure Duke and Harvard wouldn't be free. University of Michigan wouldn't be free. But Eastern Michigan and Western Michigan would be free.
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What??? Now you're backing down on that "free college for all".

Please do make up your mind!!!

Is this the Great Reset or what?

Sounds like you simply wish to perpetuate the predatory capitalist system that progressives supposedly despise.

Be happy with $15.00 an hour and a letter of achievement that you can hang on the wall to brag about if you do something beneficial for mankind even if you did graduate from Harvard.

Only the best minds should be sent to the best schools and we can determine that by being really strict with the SAT and ACT tests and those legacy students will be no more since everyone is equal.

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Nonsense. If a poor little black kid gets cancer, he should get the same treatment that a guy making $500,000 a year gets.
I agree everyone gets treated the same. Free heathcare for all!

UNLESS of course that rich guy has supplimental insurance which I'm sure rich people will get if we passed universal healthcare.

But at least our poorest people will be treated when they are sick. No more will they be denied because they don't have insurance.
What? Now you want it to remain as it is?

Would you please make up your mind.

And no one is suggesting everyone make $15 hr. That's just right wing babble talk.
If your college education is free what more do you need?

Everyone is equal it's the Great Reset!!!

So it's only $15.00 an hour for everyone no exceptions.

Be happy with that letter of achievement for helping mankind because expecting financial awards just makes you a greedy capitalistic bastard.

View attachment 423891

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
You talk about free college as if you didn't grow up in a society that gives "free" k-12 educations to every child.

There are some pretty expensive private schools in America. If you don't like the free college that is provided you can go to private colleges. I'm sure Duke and Harvard wouldn't be free. University of Michigan wouldn't be free. But Eastern Michigan and Western Michigan would be free.
View attachment 423973

What??? Now you're backing down on that "free college for all".

Please do make up your mind!!!

Is this the Great Reset or what?

Sounds like you simply wish to perpetuate the predatory capitalist system that progressives supposedly despise.

Be happy with $15.00 an hour and a letter of achievement that you can hang on the wall to brag about if you do something beneficial for mankind even if you did graduate from Harvard.

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
I didn't back down on free college for all. I never said there wouldn't be private schools. Just like there are private K-12 schools that aren't "free" like public schools are.

Are you losing this argument? I think ya r.
 

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I didn't back down on free college for all. I never said there wouldn't be private schools. Just like there are private K-12 schools that aren't "free" like public schools are.

Are you losing this argument? I think ya r.
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I'm not the one perpetuating a predatory capitalistic system that progressives say they hate but it appears you support whole heartedly.

How's that free healthcare argument going?

*****CHUCKLE*****


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I didn't back down on free college for all. I never said there wouldn't be private schools. Just like there are private K-12 schools that aren't "free" like public schools are.

Are you losing this argument? I think ya r.
View attachment 423979

I'm not the one perpetuating a predatory capitalistic system that progressives say they hate but it appears you support whole heartedly.

How's that free healthcare argument going?

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
We don't hate capitalism. That's just what Rush Trump and Fox tell you and you believe it. It's
 

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We don't hate capitalism. That's just what Rush Trump and Fox tell you and you believe it. It's
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Then there's no reason for the Great Reset and we can open all those businesses up and let them flourish and you can go back to being a dish washer making minimum wage with your GED and there may or may not be a first aid kit available to fix that cut on your arm.

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We won WWII because of the excellent leadership of FDR.......
Bullshit. We won despite that scumbag.
Your personal revisionist history?

Can't stand the truth??
Yup. Some Sloppy Joe on a messageboard thinks he knows history.
Playing the apologist for the worst scumbag ever to soil the Oval Office is worse than ignorant.
No one but you and some asians [sic] see it this way.
Wrong again.
The history you talk about when you discuss FDR is buried deep down in his story.

Roosevelt was viewed as a hero by many African Americans, Catholics, and Jews, and he was highly successful in attracting large majorities of these voters into his New Deal coalition.[331] He won strong support from Chinese Americans and Filipino Americans, but not Japanese Americans, as he presided over their internment in concentration camps during the war.

The attack on Pearl Harbor raised concerns in the public regarding the possibility of sabotage by Japanese Americans. This suspicion was fed by long-standing racism against Japanese immigrants, as well as the findings of the Roberts Commission, which concluded that the attack on Pearl Harbor had been assisted by Japanese spies. On February 19, 1942, President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, which relocated hundreds of thousands of the Japanese-American citizens and immigrants. They were forced to liquidate their properties and businesses and interned in hastily built camps in interior, harsh locations. Distracted by other issues, Roosevelt had delegated the decision for internment to Secretary of War Stimson, who in turn relied on the judgment of Assistant Secretary of War John J. McCloy. The Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the executive order in the 1944 case of Korematsu v. United States.[337] Many German and Italian citizens were also arrested or placed into internment camps.
Instead of posting plagiarism, why not post your own thoughts on the subject (if you are capable of forming any)?
You never post your thoughts. The only thoughts you post are that you think we are wrong. Not why of course. Just that you THINK we are wrong. Bye
Do you imagine that any of that excuses or justifies your plagiarism?
 

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So, the mantra of the progressive left is Orange Man bad, orange man bad.
But lets see what the progressive Masters are offering the people of the United States.
1. Free education, but who will pay for it, because nothing in life is free, Billionaires? Not all the billionaires in the world can pay for all the free education.
2. Free healthcare, and again, do doctors, nurses work for free, and are medical supplies somewhat costly to make?
3. A guaranteed $1,500 a month check from the government, who ends up paying for that?

Now, with what is going on, with the One Party control, of the media , education and politics, seems that the 1st amendment is under attack and will soon be takem away, but not until guns are taken away from the free people.
With the violence of the left, who is burning, looting and murdering in the progressive streets of blue cities, the prog masters want to ban certain types of weapon that make a large noise and sends a projectile out of the font of it. Knives, forks, spoons, hammers, bombs, cars, and other weapons will be dealt with later, but to the progs the 2nd amendment must go.
After the 2nd amendment is gone, and free people can no longer stand up to tyrannical governments, soon all the other rights under the constitution are also gone, thus making uneducated progs, slaves of their masters..


Why is it that every other developed nation can afford free healthcare and education, but the U.S. can not?

Why are the 'European Socialist' countries ranked higher than the U.S. in quality of life?

A lot of it has to do with the fact that the US shoulders the cost of defense for all of those nations. You can talk all you want about what the average joe gets in those nations but it is rather clear that our system generates not only prosperity that far outstrips any other nation but also innovation.
US spends a lot on defence but against who? EU could beat Russia in a conventional war in about a couple of weeks...
I doubt that tbh, the EU may have the tech which has a lot to do with their partnership with the US, but they are a small fraction of what we have in overall military capability.

It is not against any particular threat either. It is more about keeping the world out of major wars, something that has notibly decreased since the US took the lead as the main global superpower.

US has left themselves wide open to cyber attack.

This isn't shoulder the cost thing, the US got themselves into very costly wars (Iraq and Afgan) which were pretty unnecessary and are not sabre rattling with Iran... It is not Europe's fault they thought they were misadventures in the middle east, they were right.
Yes, it is even if we have made major errors in judgment in trying to do something that should or cannot be done.
We are just showing that this idea that US is number one at everything is just not true... Germany has lower unemployment, a surplus, free Third level education, universal heath insurance, environmental standards, low crime, elections that don't end up in a farce...
And they do that with out a 11 million sub class workers who have very limited right....

I am not saying America is wrong but this constant accusation that universal heathcare and free third level education is communism is just ridiculous OR you are saying that communist countries can be successful... So can you explain how Germany is so successful by doing all these evil things like looking after workers....
I have not and never stated to my knowledge that universal healthcare makes a nation communist. If I did my statements were incorrect. It is a socialist way in running those institution however and there is an argument as to weather or not running those systems in a socialistic manner is superior to a commercial one - particularly when it comes to education. The US has the best educational institution in the world and it is our public education system that is not up to par. The private one is generally really damn good at what they do.
You can look at this way:

US - invented every modern medicine there is.

Europe - invented jack shit.

They would be still doing leeches without our system. In fact, in more literal sense than that. As Trump has been saying, we need to control prescription drug prices, the EU is taking advantage of us by controlling the prices which means we need to pay higher costs.

The socialists want to nationalize health care for primarily two reasons:
1) The control freaks want to control health. As in UK, they can then exclude people with the wrong opinion from it.
2) They want free shit, and in public health care there is the implicit assumption that people who work for a living pay for it so they get to mooch.

That said, they are free to do whatever they want in my book. But to dictate the whole of US how to live, especially when it goes against the American ethos - that is indeed Satanic, there is every reason to fight such authoritarian idiots by any means necessary.

As for Europe, it is failing just like all the West for the same reason as all the West - letting moochers vote free shit to their heart's content. Indeed, at this point there is simply no more money left for free shit, the boomers already voted all of it for themselves.
Penicillin
Radium treatment
X-Rays
Chemotherapy
Also the COVID Vaccines were all devloped outside US...

And that is just of the top of my head
 

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You can look at this way:

US - invented every modern medicine there is.

Europe - invented jack shit.

They would be still doing leeches without our system. In fact, in more literal sense than that. As Trump has been saying, we need to control prescription drug prices, the EU is taking advantage of us by controlling the prices which means we need to pay higher costs.

The socialists want to nationalize health care for primarily two reasons:
1) The control freaks want to control health. As in UK, they can then exclude people with the wrong opinion from it.
2) They want free shit, and in public health care there is the implicit assumption that people who work for a living pay for it so they get to mooch.

That said, they are free to do whatever they want in my book. But to dictate the whole of US how to live, especially when it goes against the American ethos - that is indeed Satanic, there is every reason to fight such authoritarian idiots by any means necessary.

As for Europe, it is failing just like all the West for the same reason as all the West - letting moochers vote free shit to their heart's content. Indeed, at this point there is simply no more money left for free shit, the boomers already voted all of it for themselves.
Didn't think it was possible to have so much ignorance in one post. Then again, you are a Deplorable, and an acolyte of the Fake News King. Get out a bit more, Norm...
 

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