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This is the height of human stupidity. The people that were supposed to be against socialism are now rallying for less free trade and government price control, just because demigod Donald told them so.

These cultists do not understand the first thing about economics, but now they have strong opinions because their political master voiced some dumbass uneducated opinions; Uneducated opinions that suspiciously would hurt competitors to the Trump Organization.

I knew the human race had went insane, but now the tools are weighing in on intellectual subjects like economics? They just elected a socialist administration, so clearly we have learned nothing.
 

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Trade protectionism is for Frenchies. Now the republicans want to act like them.
 

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It's totally retarded.

"Conservatives" think that raising taxes, restricting liberty and increasing government intervention is good for the economy.

If Trump said that he was going to implement communism, his worshippers would be here arguing that it would be good for America.
 
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Trade protectionism is for Frenchies. Now the republicans want to act like them.
Protectionism was a staple point of American economics policy for a long time, and it ended up leading to the Great Depression.

I cannot think of one time in US history when protectionism directly led to an increase in jobs or growth. The arguments for its merits are all based on fallacies.
 

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That argument doesn't permeate the skulls of political partisans. But if you note that they're acting like a bunch of socialist Frenchie frogs, they might get it.
 
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It's totally retarded.

"Conservatives" think that raising taxes, restricting liberty and increasing government intervention is good for the economy.

If Trump said that he was going to implement communism, his worshippers would be here arguing that it would be good for America.
I lost my sanity on this issue. Whenever I tried to make them back up their bullshit, they make the most inane arguments, if they make any at all.

The trade deficit argument is awful. They seem to think a trade deficit means that we are in debt to another country, because that is what demigod Donald implied.
 
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I concluded that Donald Trump is either a certified idiot on the subject of economics, or he is personally benefiting from tariffs in some way.

So I did some investigating, and found that some of his business competitors rely heavily on foreign trade, particularly Mexico and China. That signifies to me that he is intentionally fucking over America to serve his special interests.
 
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That argument doesn't permeate the skulls of political partisans. But if you note that they're acting like a bunch of socialist Frenchie frogs, they might get it.
Apparently not.

In the discussions that I have had, those that admitted it was socialism were okay with it. This election proves to me that the American right does not have actual convictions on economics. They are just tools rooting for their side.
 

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Another liberal BS thread, the whackadoodles are on full on attack.
 
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Another liberal BS thread, the whackadoodles are on full on attack.
Liberal BS? I am speaking out against socialism.

Conservatives were supposed to be against socialism, but they shamelessly flip flopped during this election. Now they want the government to protect their jobs and control prices. It is unfucking believable how little conviction they have. Oh, and fuck off tool!
 

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This is the height of human stupidity. The people that were supposed to be against socialism are now rallying for less free trade and government price control, just because demigod Donald told them so.

These cultists do not understand the first thing about economics, but now they have strong opinions because their political master voiced some dumbass uneducated opinions; Uneducated opinions that suspiciously would hurt competitors to the Trump Organization.

I knew the human race had went insane, but now the tools are weighing in on intellectual subjects like economics? They just elected a socialist administration, so clearly we have learned nothing.
We need to have manufacturing jobs in the United States. Free trade is code for "American worker your fucked." Fair trade is the goal and China does not practice it. Mexico had nothing we need.
 

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Trade protectionism is for Frenchies. Now the republicans want to act like them.
Protectionism was a staple point of American economics policy for a long time, and it ended up leading to the Great Depression.

I cannot think of one time in US history when protectionism directly led to an increase in jobs or growth. The arguments for its merits are all based on fallacies.
It need not lead to Great Depression. The most important factor was an unregulated market and banking system. Also, the consumer bubble burst when purchasing went down and too many people were buying on credit.
 
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We need to have manufacturing jobs in the United States.
Independent manafacturing is reliant on cheap raw materials from foreign countries.

The majority of American jobs are not manfacturing, and are supported by trade. You will cost millions of jobs to save a hundred thousand minimum wage factory positions.

Fair trade is the goal and China does not practice it.
Fair trade sounds like something that was concocted in a Democrat think tank to put an appealing spin on socialism (which this is).

Your unfounded desire to equalize trade decifits serves no positive ends, except raising prices, limiting growth, and destroying jobs.
 

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only argument I have is against UNFAIR trade and I think that's what the TRUMP is also against . UNFAIR trade policies being used to elevate third worlders at Americans expense is not FAIR to Americans .
 
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only argument I have is against UNFAIR trade and I think that's what the TRUMP is also against . UNFAIR trade policies being used to elevate third worlders at Americans expense is not FAIR to Americans .
So free trade without the government is unfair? How is having the government step in to make trade fair not socailism?

Newsflash: Capitalism is not fair. You guys wanted a capitalist economy, and this is what a capitalist economy looks like. There are plenty of communist movements out there if you want to live in a world with completely equalized deficits.
 

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We need to have manufacturing jobs in the United States.
Independent manafacturing is reliant on cheap raw materials from foreign countries.

The majority of American jobs are not manfacturing, and are supported by trade. You will cost millions of jobs to save a hundred thousand minimum wage factory positions.

Fair trade is the goal and China does not practice it.
Fair trade sounds like something that was concocted in a Democrat think tank to put an appealing spin on socialism (which this is).

Your unfounded desire to equalize trade decifits serves no positive ends, except raising prices, limiting growth, and destroying jobs.
----------------------------------------------------------- we Americans want our manufacturing jobs back Onyx .
 

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only argument I have is against UNFAIR trade and I think that's what the TRUMP is also against . UNFAIR trade policies being used to elevate third worlders at Americans expense is not FAIR to Americans .
So free trade without the government is unfair? How is having the government step in to make trade fair not socailism?

Newsflash: Capitalism is not fair. You guys wanted a capitalist economy, and this is what a capitalist economy looks like. There are plenty of communist movements out there if you want to live in a world with completely equalized deficits.
Fuck you for wanting the US to be a nation of food servers.
 
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----------------------------------------------------------- we Americans want our manufacturing jobs back Onyx .
Reducing trade does not lead to job creation. It leads to job loss.

You will cost millions of high paying salary jobs to save a meagre handfull of minimum wage factory jobs.
 

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----------------------------------------------------------- we Americans want our manufacturing jobs back Onyx .
Reducing trade does not lead to job creation. It leads to job loss.

You will cost millions of high paying salary jobs to save a meagre handfull of minimum wage factory jobs.
Provide some CONCRETE examples instead of Rush Limbaugh sound bites.
 

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