CDZ I can't stand this anti-trade bullshit

[Indeependent]

Fuck you for wanting the US to be a nation of food servers.

Warning: This is bait.

What do YOU do for a living?

 

[pismoe]

only argument I have is against UNFAIR trade and I think that's what the TRUMP is also against . UNFAIR trade policies being used to elevate third worlders at Americans expense is not FAIR to Americans .

So free trade without the government is unfair? How is having the government step in to make trade fair not socailism?

Newsflash: Capitalism is not fair. You guys wanted a capitalist economy, and this is what a capitalist economy looks like. There are plenty of communist movements out there if you want to live in a world with completely equalized deficits.

----------------------------------------------- looks like the TRUMP might renegotiate trade , that's part of the reason we Americans elected him . You shoulda used your illegal alien voting powers to vote against the Trump and his way of thinking on trade Onyx !!

 

[Indeependent]

Fuck you for wanting the US to be a nation of food servers.

Warning: This is bait.

No, it's FACT.

 

[Onyx]

God, the people I was talking about just infested the thread.

Not taking the bait Indeependent . We have had this debate several times, and it got nowhere.

 

[Bush92]

We need to have manufacturing jobs in the United States.

Independent manafacturing is reliant on cheap raw materials from foreign countries.

The majority of American jobs are not manfacturing, and are supported by trade. You will cost millions of jobs to save a hundred thousand minimum wage factory positions.

Fair trade is the goal and China does not practice it.

Fair trade sounds like something that was concocted in a Democrat think tank to put an appealing spin on socialism (which this is).

Your unfounded desire to equalize trade decifits serves no positive ends, except raising prices, limiting growth, and destroying jobs.

We have natural resources right here. Get those steel mills in Youngstown, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland running again.

 

[Indeependent]

God, the people I was talking about just infested the thread.

Not taking the bait Indeependent . We have had this debate several times, and it got nowhere.

What do YOU do for a living?

 

[pismoe]

----------------------------------------------------------- we Americans want our manufacturing jobs back Onyx .

Reducing trade does not lead to job creation. It leads to job loss.

You will cost millions of high paying salary jobs to save a meagre handfull of minimum wage factory jobs.

Provide some CONCRETE examples instead of Rush Limbaugh sound bites.

------------------------------------------------------------ all my sound bites are coming from the TRUMPS agenda and campaign Indee !!

 

[Indeependent]

----------------------------------------------------------- we Americans want our manufacturing jobs back Onyx .

Reducing trade does not lead to job creation. It leads to job loss.

You will cost millions of high paying salary jobs to save a meagre handfull of minimum wage factory jobs.

Provide some CONCRETE examples instead of Rush Limbaugh sound bites.

------------------------------------------------------------ all my sound bites are coming from the TRUMPS agenda and campaign Indee !!

And we're being lectured by a TRESPASSER.

 

[Onyx]

And we're being lectured by a TRESPASSER.

Sorry mate, this land is my land.

 

[Indeependent]

And we're being lectured by a TRESPASSER.

Sorry mate, this land is my land.

Nope, this is a PUBLIC forum.
What do YOU do for a living?
No answer means you're benefitting from other people's misery.

 

[Toro]

We need to have manufacturing jobs in the United States. Free trade is code for "American worker your fucked." Fair trade is the goal and China does not practice it. Mexico had nothing we need.

We do not "need" manufacturing jobs in America, unless you are a statist who believes in the discredited mercantilism and is ignorant of economics.

There is nothing magical about manufacturing jobs. There wasn't when the Luddites smashed looming machines in the 18th century and there isn't today.

If you think that we need to impose taxes to protect jobs in a favored, protected industry, then you believe the government should redistribute income just like a leftist.

Sorry that you aren't educated enough to understand this truism.

 

[Toro]

Another liberal BS thread, the whackadoodles are on full on attack.

What is leftist about believing in capitalism and individual liberty?

 

[Indeependent]

We need to have manufacturing jobs in the United States. Free trade is code for "American worker your fucked." Fair trade is the goal and China does not practice it. Mexico had nothing we need.

We do not "need" manufacturing jobs in America, unless you are a statist who believes in the discredited mercantilism and is ignorant of economics.

There is nothing magical about manufacturing jobs. There wasn't when the Luddites smashed looming machines in the 18th century and there isn't today.

If you think that we need to impose taxes to protect jobs in a favored, protected industry, then you believe the government should redistribute income just like a leftist.

Sorry that you aren't educated enough to understand this truism.

Manufacturing brings in Tax Revenue, even if it's fully automated.
We also export White Collar careers left and right.
Why am I even conversing with a guy who makes a living off of Slave Labor?

 

[Toro]

It need not lead to Great Depression. The most important factor was an unregulated market and banking system. Also, the consumer bubble burst when purchasing went down and too many people were buying on credit.

Yet, here you are, arguing for a regulated market determined by government fiat and power.

You are such a leftist.

It's amusing that you've convinced yourself you are not.

 

[miketx]

This is the height of human stupidity. The people that were supposed to be against socialism are now rallying for less free trade and government price control, just because demigod Donald told them so.

These cultists do not understand the first thing about economics, but now they have strong opinions because their political master voiced some dumbass uneducated opinions; Uneducated opinions that suspiciously would hurt competitors to the Trump Organization.

I knew the human race had went insane, but now the tools are weighing in on intellectual subjects like economics? They just elected a socialist administration, so clearly we have learned nothing.

Get out of my country.

 

[Toro]

Manufacturing brings in Tax Revenue, even if it's fully automated.
We also export White Collar careers left and right.
Why am I even conversing with a guy who makes a living off of Slave Labor?

Non-manufacturing jobs also brings in tax revenues.

Why are you so ignorant of basic economics?

Hey, if you want to propagate statist, leftist economics that tramples all over American individual liberty, fine. That's your prerogative. Just don't be a hypocrite and pretend you are conservative.

 

[Onyx]

Get out of my country, scum.

 

[Indeependent]

It need not lead to Great Depression. The most important factor was an unregulated market and banking system. Also, the consumer bubble burst when purchasing went down and too many people were buying on credit.

Yet, here you are, arguing for a regulated market determined by government fiat and power.

You are such a leftist.

It's amusing that you've convinced yourself you are not.

Excuse me...NO nation starts off with NO Borders and NO Laws.
Laws were PASSED by the few wealthy to allow Americans to starve.
I never voted for Goldman-Sachs to enact non-Ricardian Free Trade.

 

[Toro]

Get out of my country, scum.

So you think America is a communist country?

Interesting.

 

[Onyx]

Manufacturing brings in Tax Revenue, even if it's fully automated.
We also export White Collar careers left and right.
Why am I even conversing with a guy who makes a living off of Slave Labor?

Non-manufacturing jobs also brings in tax revenues.

Why are you so ignorant of basic economics?

Hey, if you want to propagate statist, leftist economics that tramples all over American individual liberty, fine. That's your prerogative. Just don't be a hypocrite and pretend you are conservative.

She doesn't.