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Unmitigated Horseshit.
Why is it so expensive? Because of continual rules and regulations like this increase in minimum wage!I don't get the "can't believe... San Francisco" connection here.
San Francisco's a wonderful town but it's very expensive to live there. You know that, right?
Don't you comprehend the concept of raising costs of doing business raises prices people pay?
I'm sure you think those small business people are making a fortune and need to be taken down a peg by re-distribution!
Unmitigated Horseshit.
It's a bookstore, hello? And not only a bookstore but an independent specialty bookstore (SciFi). Such businesses have been losing ground for years to internet sources like Amazon (which now dominates book sales), eBay, eReaders, and before that large chains like Borders ad Barnes & Noble -- BOTH of which have also closed in San Francisco -- and all over -- along with a dozen or so other indie book stores as listed on post 34. ALL of that happened before any minimum wage action, and ALL of that happens inside and outside San Francisco. Nationally, over a thousand bookstores folded up between 2000 and 2007 alone.
That's two hits, one a technological shift and one a monopoly-BigBox pressure. In both cases it's the free market at work. Like it or lump it but this cherrypicking one case at a convenient time to make a post hoc fallacy belongs in the Bullshit section.
BUT you are forgetting the two owners state clearly why they are closing...
In November, San Francisco voters overwhelmingly passed a measure that will increase the minimum wage within the city to $15 per hour by 2018.
Although all of us at Borderlands support the concept of a living wage in principal and we believe that it’s possible that the new law will be good for San Francisco —
Borderlands Books as it exists is not a financially viable business if subject to that minimum wage.
Consequently we will be closing our doors no later than March 31st. …
Much as I love bookstores, and I do, most of what I buy now downloads in about 20 seconds at half the price, or even much less. I get TV the same way, and the porn is totally free. That's life in capitalism when you build a better mousetrap.Why is it so expensive? Because of continual rules and regulations like this increase in minimum wage!I don't get the "can't believe... San Francisco" connection here.
San Francisco's a wonderful town but it's very expensive to live there. You know that, right?
Don't you comprehend the concept of raising costs of doing business raises prices people pay?
I'm sure you think those small business people are making a fortune and need to be taken down a peg by re-distribution!
Unmitigated Horseshit.
It's a bookstore, hello? And not only a bookstore but an independent specialty bookstore (SciFi). Such businesses have been losing ground for years to internet sources like Amazon (which now dominates book sales), eBay, eReaders, and before that large chains like Borders and Barnes & Noble -- BOTH of which have also closed in San Francisco -- and all over -- along with a dozen or so other indie book stores as listed in post 34. ALL of that happened before any minimum wage action, and ALL of that happens inside and outside San Francisco. Nationally, over a thousand bookstores folded up between 2000 and 2007 alone.
That's two hits, one a technological shift and one a monopoly-BigBox pressure. In both cases it's the free market at work. Like it or lump it but this cherrypicking one case at a convenient time to make a post hoc fallacy belongs in the Bullshit section.
A dozen local bookstores close in SF, including big boxes, thousands of bookstores close coast to coast, and all of a sudden this one is a result of a wage increase?
The issues are pretty specific to this business. As the owner explains, the books have the prices printed on the covers. They can't just raise prices to match the wage increases because of that specific fact.
They could easily on the connected cafe. Which is why the connected cafe is remaining open. And the bookstore isn't. Those trying to draw vast generalizations from this specific case are ignoring the specifics of this case.
Why is it so expensive? Because of continual rules and regulations like this increase in minimum wage!I don't get the "can't believe... San Francisco" connection here.
San Francisco's a wonderful town but it's very expensive to live there. You know that, right?
Don't you comprehend the concept of raising costs of doing business raises prices people pay?
I'm sure you think those small business people are making a fortune and need to be taken down a peg by re-distribution!
Unmitigated Horseshit.
It's a bookstore, hello? And not only a bookstore but an independent specialty bookstore (SciFi). Such businesses have been losing ground for years to internet sources like Amazon (which now dominates book sales), eBay, eReaders, and before that large chains like Borders and Barnes & Noble -- BOTH of which have also closed in San Francisco -- and all over -- along with a dozen or so other indie book stores as listed in post 34. ALL of that happened before any minimum wage action, and ALL of that happens inside and outside San Francisco. Nationally, over a thousand bookstores folded up between 2000 and 2007 alone.
That's two hits, one a technological shift and one a monopoly-BigBox pressure. In both cases it's the free market at work. Like it or lump it but this cherrypicking one case at a convenient time to make a post hoc fallacy belongs in the Bullshit section.
A dozen local bookstores close in SF, including big boxes, thousands of bookstores close coast to coast, and all of a sudden this one is a result of a wage increase?
The issues are pretty specific to this business. As the owner explains, the books have the prices printed on the covers. They can't just raise prices to match the wage increases because of that specific fact.
Much as I love bookstores, and I do, most of what I buy now downloads in about 20 seconds at half the price, or even much less. I get TV the same way, and the porn is totally free. That's life in capitalism when you build a better mousetrap.Why is it so expensive? Because of continual rules and regulations like this increase in minimum wage!I don't get the "can't believe... San Francisco" connection here.
San Francisco's a wonderful town but it's very expensive to live there. You know that, right?
Don't you comprehend the concept of raising costs of doing business raises prices people pay?
I'm sure you think those small business people are making a fortune and need to be taken down a peg by re-distribution!
Unmitigated Horseshit.
It's a bookstore, hello? And not only a bookstore but an independent specialty bookstore (SciFi). Such businesses have been losing ground for years to internet sources like Amazon (which now dominates book sales), eBay, eReaders, and before that large chains like Borders and Barnes & Noble -- BOTH of which have also closed in San Francisco -- and all over -- along with a dozen or so other indie book stores as listed in post 34. ALL of that happened before any minimum wage action, and ALL of that happens inside and outside San Francisco. Nationally, over a thousand bookstores folded up between 2000 and 2007 alone.
That's two hits, one a technological shift and one a monopoly-BigBox pressure. In both cases it's the free market at work. Like it or lump it but this cherrypicking one case at a convenient time to make a post hoc fallacy belongs in the Bullshit section.
A dozen local bookstores close in SF, including big boxes, thousands of bookstores close coast to coast, and all of a sudden this one is a result of a wage increase?
The issues are pretty specific to this business. As the owner explains, the books have the prices printed on the covers. They can't just raise prices to match the wage increases because of that specific fact.
They could easily on the connected cafe. Which is why the connected cafe is remaining open. And the bookstore isn't. Those trying to draw vast generalizations from this specific case are ignoring the specifics of this case.
It's expensive (and always has been) because it is desirable to live there. Just like Hawaii is expensive and Mississippi is not.Why is it so expensive? Because of continual rules and regulations like this increase in minimum wage!I don't get the "can't believe... San Francisco" connection here.
San Francisco's a wonderful town but it's very expensive to live there. You know that, right?
Don't you comprehend the concept of raising costs of doing business raises prices people pay?
I'm sure you think those small business people are making a fortune and need to be taken down a peg by re-distribution!
Why is it so expensive? Because of continual rules and regulations like this increase in minimum wage!I don't get the "can't believe... San Francisco" connection here.
San Francisco's a wonderful town but it's very expensive to live there. You know that, right?
Don't you comprehend the concept of raising costs of doing business raises prices people pay?
I'm sure you think those small business people are making a fortune and need to be taken down a peg by re-distribution!
Unmitigated Horseshit.
It's a bookstore, hello? And not only a bookstore but an independent specialty bookstore (SciFi). Such businesses have been losing ground for years to internet sources like Amazon (which now dominates book sales), eBay, eReaders, and before that large chains like Borders and Barnes & Noble -- BOTH of which have also closed in San Francisco -- and all over -- along with a dozen or so other indie book stores as listed in post 34. ALL of that happened before any minimum wage action, and ALL of that happens inside and outside San Francisco. Nationally, over a thousand bookstores folded up between 2000 and 2007 alone.
That's two hits, one a technological shift and one a monopoly-BigBox pressure. In both cases it's the free market at work. Like it or lump it but this cherrypicking one case at a convenient time to make a post hoc fallacy belongs in the Bullshit section.
A dozen local bookstores close in SF, including big boxes, thousands of bookstores close coast to coast, and all of a sudden this one is a result of a wage increase?
The issues are pretty specific to this business. As the owner explains, the books have the prices printed on the covers. They can't just raise prices to match the wage increases because of that specific fact.
They could easily on the connected cafe. Which is why the connected cafe is remaining open. And the bookstore isn't. Those trying to draw vast generalizations from this specific case are ignoring the specifics of this case.
Why is it so expensive? Because of continual rules and regulations like this increase in minimum wage!I don't get the "can't believe... San Francisco" connection here.
San Francisco's a wonderful town but it's very expensive to live there. You know that, right?
Don't you comprehend the concept of raising costs of doing business raises prices people pay?
I'm sure you think those small business people are making a fortune and need to be taken down a peg by re-distribution!
Unmitigated Horseshit.
It's a bookstore, hello? And not only a bookstore but an independent specialty bookstore (SciFi). Such businesses have been losing ground for years to internet sources like Amazon (which now dominates book sales), eBay, eReaders, and before that large chains like Borders and Barnes & Noble -- BOTH of which have also closed in San Francisco -- and all over -- along with a dozen or so other indie book stores as listed in post 34. ALL of that happened before any minimum wage action, and ALL of that happens inside and outside San Francisco. Nationally, over a thousand bookstores folded up between 2000 and 2007 alone.
That's two hits, one a technological shift and one a monopoly-BigBox pressure. In both cases it's the free market at work. Like it or lump it but this cherrypicking one case at a convenient time to make a post hoc fallacy belongs in the Bullshit section.
A dozen local bookstores close in SF, including big boxes, thousands of bookstores close coast to coast, and all of a sudden this one is a result of a wage increase?
The issues are pretty specific to this business. As the owner explains, the books have the prices printed on the covers. They can't just raise prices to match the wage increases because of that specific fact.
They could easily on the connected cafe. Which is why the connected cafe is remaining open. And the bookstore isn't. Those trying to draw vast generalizations from this specific case are ignoring the specifics of this case.
Interesting YOU make the statement "draw vast generalizations from this specific case"!!!
What about these examples of "vast generalizations"...
“Overall I think [the minimum wage increase] may be very good for San Francisco,” said Beatts. “We’re a subset of a subset that are having negative effects from this.”
Borderlands Books in SF announces closure cites minimum wage increase Other News San Francisco San Francisco Examiner
Why is it so expensive? Because of continual rules and regulations like this increase in minimum wage!I don't get the "can't believe... San Francisco" connection here.
San Francisco's a wonderful town but it's very expensive to live there. You know that, right?
Don't you comprehend the concept of raising costs of doing business raises prices people pay?
I'm sure you think those small business people are making a fortune and need to be taken down a peg by re-distribution!
Unmitigated Horseshit.
It's a bookstore, hello? And not only a bookstore but an independent specialty bookstore (SciFi). Such businesses have been losing ground for years to internet sources like Amazon (which now dominates book sales), eBay, eReaders, and before that large chains like Borders and Barnes & Noble -- BOTH of which have also closed in San Francisco -- and all over -- along with a dozen or so other indie book stores as listed in post 34. ALL of that happened before any minimum wage action, and ALL of that happens inside and outside San Francisco. Nationally, over a thousand bookstores folded up between 2000 and 2007 alone.
That's two hits, one a technological shift and one a monopoly-BigBox pressure. In both cases it's the free market at work. Like it or lump it but this cherrypicking one case at a convenient time to make a post hoc fallacy belongs in the Bullshit section.
A dozen local bookstores close in SF, including big boxes, thousands of bookstores close coast to coast, and all of a sudden this one is a result of a wage increase?
The issues are pretty specific to this business. As the owner explains, the books have the prices printed on the covers. They can't just raise prices to match the wage increases because of that specific fact.
They could easily on the connected cafe. Which is why the connected cafe is remaining open. And the bookstore isn't. Those trying to draw vast generalizations from this specific case are ignoring the specifics of this case.
Interesting YOU make the statement "draw vast generalizations from this specific case"!!!
What about these examples of "vast generalizations"...
So you're just completely abandoning the OP then?
Looks like he is.Why is it so expensive? Because of continual rules and regulations like this increase in minimum wage!I don't get the "can't believe... San Francisco" connection here.
San Francisco's a wonderful town but it's very expensive to live there. You know that, right?
Don't you comprehend the concept of raising costs of doing business raises prices people pay?
I'm sure you think those small business people are making a fortune and need to be taken down a peg by re-distribution!
Unmitigated Horseshit.
It's a bookstore, hello? And not only a bookstore but an independent specialty bookstore (SciFi). Such businesses have been losing ground for years to internet sources like Amazon (which now dominates book sales), eBay, eReaders, and before that large chains like Borders and Barnes & Noble -- BOTH of which have also closed in San Francisco -- and all over -- along with a dozen or so other indie book stores as listed in post 34. ALL of that happened before any minimum wage action, and ALL of that happens inside and outside San Francisco. Nationally, over a thousand bookstores folded up between 2000 and 2007 alone.
That's two hits, one a technological shift and one a monopoly-BigBox pressure. In both cases it's the free market at work. Like it or lump it but this cherrypicking one case at a convenient time to make a post hoc fallacy belongs in the Bullshit section.
A dozen local bookstores close in SF, including big boxes, thousands of bookstores close coast to coast, and all of a sudden this one is a result of a wage increase?
The issues are pretty specific to this business. As the owner explains, the books have the prices printed on the covers. They can't just raise prices to match the wage increases because of that specific fact.
They could easily on the connected cafe. Which is why the connected cafe is remaining open. And the bookstore isn't. Those trying to draw vast generalizations from this specific case are ignoring the specifics of this case.
Interesting YOU make the statement "draw vast generalizations from this specific case"!!!
What about these examples of "vast generalizations"...
So you're just completely abandoning the OP then?
If you can't afford to pay a living wage then you shouldn't be in business. And if you say Well, if they have to pay that then the business will have to close, good, it shouldn't be open then. A real business will pay its workers a wage they can live on, assuming that they work full-time.Minimum wage is not meant to be living wage. If you can't afford a living wage you won't be in business. Just too simple for idiot libtards like you to comprehend.Did you somehow miss the idea of Creative Destruction: Creative destruction - Wikipedia the free encyclopediaIf You Support Higher Minimum Wages, You Hate Bookstores
You don't hate bookstores. Do you?
Similarly, this is why some burger joints are experimenting with machines that literally make the burgers automatically. Fewer people in the kitchen means less labor purchased. This is why the CBO projected that increasing the minimum wage to $10.10 could cost half-a-million jobs.
In November, San Francisco voters overwhelmingly passed a measure that will increase the minimum wage within the city to $15 per hour by 2018.
Although all of us at Borderlands support the concept of a living wage in principal and we believe that it’s possible that the new law will be good for San Francisco —
Borderlands Books as it exists is not a financially viable business if subject to that minimum wage.
Consequently we will be closing our doors no later than March 31st. …
The change in minimum wage will mean our payroll will increase roughly 39%.
That increase will in turn bring up our total operating expenses by 18%.
To make up for that expense, we would need to increase our sales by a minimum of 20%.
We do not believe that is a realistic possibility for a bookstore in San Francisco at this time.
The other obvious alternative to increasing sales would be to decrease expenses.
The only way to accomplish the amount of savings needed would be to reduce our staff to: the current management (Alan Beatts and Jude Feldman), and one other part-time employee.
Alan would need to take over most of Jude’s administrative responsibilities and Jude would work the counter five to six days per week. Taking all those steps would allow management to increase their work hours by 50-75% while continuing to make roughly the same modest amount that they make now (by way of example, Alan’s salary was $28,000 last year).
That’s not an option for obvious reasons and for at least one less obvious one — at the planned minimum wage in 2018, either of them would earn more than their current salary working only 40 hours per week at a much less demanding job that paid minimum wage.
If You Support Higher Minimum Wages You Hate Bookstores Washington Free Beacon
If you can't pay a Living Wage then there is no reason for you to be in business here, none at all.
Employees who make a starvation wage aren't being helped. Any business that can pay only at that level we don't need.If you can't afford to pay a living wage then you shouldn't be in business. And if you say Well, if they have to pay that then the business will have to close, good, it shouldn't be open then. A real business will pay its workers a wage they can live on, assuming that they work full-time.Minimum wage is not meant to be living wage. If you can't afford a living wage you won't be in business. Just too simple for idiot libtards like you to comprehend.Did you somehow miss the idea of Creative Destruction: Creative destruction - Wikipedia the free encyclopediaIf You Support Higher Minimum Wages, You Hate Bookstores
You don't hate bookstores. Do you?
Similarly, this is why some burger joints are experimenting with machines that literally make the burgers automatically. Fewer people in the kitchen means less labor purchased. This is why the CBO projected that increasing the minimum wage to $10.10 could cost half-a-million jobs.
In November, San Francisco voters overwhelmingly passed a measure that will increase the minimum wage within the city to $15 per hour by 2018.
Although all of us at Borderlands support the concept of a living wage in principal and we believe that it’s possible that the new law will be good for San Francisco —
Borderlands Books as it exists is not a financially viable business if subject to that minimum wage.
Consequently we will be closing our doors no later than March 31st. …
The change in minimum wage will mean our payroll will increase roughly 39%.
That increase will in turn bring up our total operating expenses by 18%.
To make up for that expense, we would need to increase our sales by a minimum of 20%.
We do not believe that is a realistic possibility for a bookstore in San Francisco at this time.
The other obvious alternative to increasing sales would be to decrease expenses.
The only way to accomplish the amount of savings needed would be to reduce our staff to: the current management (Alan Beatts and Jude Feldman), and one other part-time employee.
Alan would need to take over most of Jude’s administrative responsibilities and Jude would work the counter five to six days per week. Taking all those steps would allow management to increase their work hours by 50-75% while continuing to make roughly the same modest amount that they make now (by way of example, Alan’s salary was $28,000 last year).
That’s not an option for obvious reasons and for at least one less obvious one — at the planned minimum wage in 2018, either of them would earn more than their current salary working only 40 hours per week at a much less demanding job that paid minimum wage.
If You Support Higher Minimum Wages You Hate Bookstores Washington Free Beacon
If you can't pay a Living Wage then there is no reason for you to be in business here, none at all.
Hey, that really helps the employees! When are you liberal turds going to admit you don't give a fuck about the common man?
I'll take Dallas any day of the week.
I like Dallas. I love San Francisco. Fisherman's Wharf and China Town are unique in my experience. Los Angeles and New York have a China Town, but they are nothing like SF.
Stumbling back to the BART down Market street after a fine dinner and a stop in every bar or pub along the way is an experience every adult should have.
San Francisco was around long before the Communists took it over, and will go on after they fade to dust.
Employees who make a starvation wage aren't being helped. Any business that can pay only at that level we don't need.If you can't afford to pay a living wage then you shouldn't be in business. And if you say Well, if they have to pay that then the business will have to close, good, it shouldn't be open then. A real business will pay its workers a wage they can live on, assuming that they work full-time.Minimum wage is not meant to be living wage. If you can't afford a living wage you won't be in business. Just too simple for idiot libtards like you to comprehend.Did you somehow miss the idea of Creative Destruction: Creative destruction - Wikipedia the free encyclopediaIf You Support Higher Minimum Wages, You Hate Bookstores
You don't hate bookstores. Do you?
Similarly, this is why some burger joints are experimenting with machines that literally make the burgers automatically. Fewer people in the kitchen means less labor purchased. This is why the CBO projected that increasing the minimum wage to $10.10 could cost half-a-million jobs.
In November, San Francisco voters overwhelmingly passed a measure that will increase the minimum wage within the city to $15 per hour by 2018.
Although all of us at Borderlands support the concept of a living wage in principal and we believe that it’s possible that the new law will be good for San Francisco —
Borderlands Books as it exists is not a financially viable business if subject to that minimum wage.
Consequently we will be closing our doors no later than March 31st. …
The change in minimum wage will mean our payroll will increase roughly 39%.
That increase will in turn bring up our total operating expenses by 18%.
To make up for that expense, we would need to increase our sales by a minimum of 20%.
We do not believe that is a realistic possibility for a bookstore in San Francisco at this time.
The other obvious alternative to increasing sales would be to decrease expenses.
The only way to accomplish the amount of savings needed would be to reduce our staff to: the current management (Alan Beatts and Jude Feldman), and one other part-time employee.
Alan would need to take over most of Jude’s administrative responsibilities and Jude would work the counter five to six days per week. Taking all those steps would allow management to increase their work hours by 50-75% while continuing to make roughly the same modest amount that they make now (by way of example, Alan’s salary was $28,000 last year).
That’s not an option for obvious reasons and for at least one less obvious one — at the planned minimum wage in 2018, either of them would earn more than their current salary working only 40 hours per week at a much less demanding job that paid minimum wage.
If You Support Higher Minimum Wages You Hate Bookstores Washington Free Beacon
If you can't pay a Living Wage then there is no reason for you to be in business here, none at all.
Hey, that really helps the employees! When are you liberal turds going to admit you don't give a fuck about the common man?
Zero. Your question is the same as which is better, being beaten by your husband or not having a roof over your head? Neither are good.Employees who make a starvation wage aren't being helped. Any business that can pay only at that level we don't need.If you can't afford to pay a living wage then you shouldn't be in business. And if you say Well, if they have to pay that then the business will have to close, good, it shouldn't be open then. A real business will pay its workers a wage they can live on, assuming that they work full-time.Minimum wage is not meant to be living wage. If you can't afford a living wage you won't be in business. Just too simple for idiot libtards like you to comprehend.Did you somehow miss the idea of Creative Destruction: Creative destruction - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
If you can't pay a Living Wage then there is no reason for you to be in business here, none at all.
Hey, that really helps the employees! When are you liberal turds going to admit you don't give a fuck about the common man?
Let's see, which is better, minimum wage or zero? You tell me.
Zero. Your question is the same as which is better, being beaten by your husband or not having a roof over your head? Neither are good.Employees who make a starvation wage aren't being helped. Any business that can pay only at that level we don't need.If you can't afford to pay a living wage then you shouldn't be in business. And if you say Well, if they have to pay that then the business will have to close, good, it shouldn't be open then. A real business will pay its workers a wage they can live on, assuming that they work full-time.Minimum wage is not meant to be living wage. If you can't afford a living wage you won't be in business. Just too simple for idiot libtards like you to comprehend.
Hey, that really helps the employees! When are you liberal turds going to admit you don't give a fuck about the common man?
Let's see, which is better, minimum wage or zero? You tell me.
You have the right to it if we say you do...Zero. Your question is the same as which is better, being beaten by your husband or not having a roof over your head? Neither are good.Employees who make a starvation wage aren't being helped. Any business that can pay only at that level we don't need.If you can't afford to pay a living wage then you shouldn't be in business. And if you say Well, if they have to pay that then the business will have to close, good, it shouldn't be open then. A real business will pay its workers a wage they can live on, assuming that they work full-time.
Hey, that really helps the employees! When are you liberal turds going to admit you don't give a fuck about the common man?
Let's see, which is better, minimum wage or zero? You tell me.
Yeah, he will certainly be well fed with an income of zero! You're such a humanitarian!
Beating your wife is a violation of her rights. You have no right to a job or a specific income.
Creative Destruction. Not too many corset-makers around anymore, but the ones who are are well paid. And just think, if you don't want the robot-burger you can go the fancy place down the street for a human-made burger, pay three times as much, and what do you know, look at that, they can afford to pay their workers a living wage...San Francisco is high demand real estate. It's very expensive to maintain, and the construction and remodeling never ceases. And, SF has a lot of parks. You'd be surprised how many businesses skirt regulations. Those Asian massage parlors are providing happy endings. There are too many shananigans going on for the regulators to keep pace.
But, for a business like Amoeba Records on Haight Street a $15 minimum wage might be fatal.
The fast food worker robot has already been invented. It's just waiting for the numbers to reach parity. They don't spit in your drink. They don't live in rent controlled housing. They don't steal from the register, don't qualify for Obamacare and don't smoke rock.
