How Would You Sell the American people on a major war?

[rightwinger]

Lol!

You are delusional

America would never sign up to a war that kills over 100,000

 

[Dayton3]

You are delusional

America would never sign up to a war that kills over 100,000

What's so magical about the number 100,000?

 

[rightwinger]

What's so magical about the number 100,000?

Our tolerance is closer to 10,000

 

[BlindBoo]

You follow the tried and true pattern used by prior presidents. You set up events leading to a false flag. Works like a charm every time.

Pearl Harbor was not a false flag. FDR antagonized the Japanese by cutting off the supplies they needed to continue their fascist conquests in Asia. They had no choice if they wanted the US to butt out of their expansionist desires.

 

[AntonToo]

As of 24 Aug 2023, the US has more than 150 military advisers

Do you seriously not understand what is being discussed?

Advisers are not combat units engaging with Russian army.

 

[gipper]

Pearl Harbor was not a false flag. FDR antagonized the Japanese by cutting off the supplies they needed to continue their fascist conquests in Asia. They had no choice if they wanted the US to butt out of their expansionist desires.

FDR did far more than that. Plus he worked feverishly to antagonized Germany in the hope of triggering war. Plus he knew when and where Japan would attack, and refused to warn commanders.

Much like Dishonest Abe’s use of the garrison at Fort Sumter. Agreeing to vacate as was done at all other federal facilities in the seceding states, only to send ships to resupply triggering bombardment by SC leading to his war. Just as he hoped.

 

[Vastator]

Do you seriously not understand what is being discussed?

Advisers are not combat units engaging with Russian army.

Yes. I understand perfectly well.

 

[M14 Shooter]

FDR did far more than that. Plus he worked feverishly to antagonized Germany in the hope of triggering war. Plus he knew when and where Japan would attack, and refused to warn commanders.

You continue to claim, but cannot present proof of same.

 

[gipper]

I taught World and U.S. history for 12 years. Secondary level

Lol. You taught the history the state told you in fourth grade government school, only to learn nothing as you aged.

This will blow your statist mind…

Lindsey A. O'Rourke's book "Covered Regime Change: America's Secret Cold War" argues that conventional focus on overt cases misses the basic causes of regime change.123O'Rourke provides substantive evidence of types of security interests that drive states to intervene.023 She argues that the United States opted for regime change not for ideological reasons but because it satisfied the demands of national security.5 O'Rourke assembles an original dataset of all American regime change operations during the Cold War.1 O'Rourke examines the 64 times the US attempted covert regime change between 1947-89, the period encompassing the Cold War era. O'Rourke finds that US covert operations during the Cold War were unsuccessful more than 60% of the time and most failed to remain covert, often resulting in unforeseen and disastrous consequences.

 

[BlindBoo]

FDR did far more than that. Plus he worked feverishly to antagonized Germany in the hope of triggering war. Plus he knew when and where Japan would attack, and refused to warn commanders.

Much like Dishonest Abe’s use of the garrison at Fort Sumter. Agreeing to vacate as was done at all other federal facilities in the seceding states, only to send ships to resupply triggering bombardment by SC leading to his war. Just as he hoped.

He did what he had to do to get the American people behind the war effort. We were already in a defacto war against the German U-boats.

The Rebs used the Ft. Sumter incursion as propaganda as well. Both sides knew the score that their citizens were not for the war and needed to be goaded into supporting it.

 

[gipper]

You continue to claim, but cannot present proof of same.

Lol. I’ve done do many times and you can too, if you weren’t uninformed.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Lol. I’ve done do many times

You statement is false -- many times I have asked you for proof, and not once have you presented it.
Not once.
This time will be no different - and you will now prove me correct.

 

[Blaster]

 

[gipper]

You statement is false -- many times I have asked you for proof, and not once have you presented it.
Not once.
This time will be no different - and you will now prove me correct.

Too bad. Look it. It’s not hard. Don’t stay being a fucking chicken hawk pussy forever.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Too bad. Look it. It’s not hard. Don’t stay being a fucking chicken hawk pussy forever.

Thank you for proving me correct.
Again.

 

[gipper]

You are delusional

America would never sign up to a war that kills over 100,000

Yet some 400-500,000 Ukrainians are dead.

 

[rightwinger]

Yet some 400-500,000 Ukrainians are dead.

Zero Americans

 

[konradv]

Shifting goalpost...

No, you set the posts. I never agreed.

 

[BlindBoo]

Yet some 400-500,000 Ukrainians are dead.

Aug 18 (Reuters) - The number of Ukrainian and Russian troops killed or wounded since the war in Ukraine began in February 2022 is nearing 500,000, the New York Times reported on Friday, citing unnamed U.S. officials.

Troop deaths, injuries in Ukraine war nearing 500,000 - NYT citing US officials

The number of Ukrainian and Russian troops killed or wounded since the war in Ukraine began in February 2022 is nearing 500,000, the New York Times reported on Friday, citing unnamed U.S. officials.

www.reuters.com

 

[Vastator]

No, you set the posts. I never agreed.

Uh-huh... Whatever you need to tell yourself bud...