How Whites Made Haiti a S-hole Country

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If I said that white countries made black countries like Haiti shitholes, the hollering would never end. Over the time I have been here, I have read endless posts by whites dissing black run countries. The NY Times wrote a series called The Ransom. Now it's time some whites learned the truth.

The Ransom

The Root of Haiti’s Misery: Reparations to Enslavers​

...for generations after independence, Haitians were forced to pay the descendants of their former slave masters, including the Empress of Brazil; the son-in-law of the Russian Emperor Nicholas I; Germany’s last imperial chancellor; and Gaston de Galliffet, the French general known as the “butcher of the Commune” for crushing an insurrection in Paris in 1871.

Twenty-one years after Haiti’s revolutionary heroes declared their country’s independence, swearing to die before being put back in chains or living under French domination again, a squadron of French warships — equipped with some 500 cannons — loomed off Haiti’s coastline.

The king’s envoy, the Baron of Mackau, issued a daunting ultimatum:

Hand over a staggering sum in reparations to Haiti’s former slave masters, or face another war.

The Haitians had ample reason for alarm. Two decades earlier, Napoleon had tried to destroy them, sending one of the largest expeditions of warships ever dispatched by France, with his brother-in-law at the helm. The Haitians won and declared independence. Napoleon lost more troops than he did at Waterloo and withdrew.

But rich French colonists continued to press to reconquer the territory, and they found another sympathetic ear when the Bourbon monarchy returned to power. One minister of the navy, a former colonist and prominent defender of slavery, even drafted a new plan to put Haitians back in bondage or “crush them” with a still larger army.

No country could be expected to come to Haiti’s defense. The world powers had frozen it out, refusing to officially acknowledge its independence. American lawmakers in particular did not want enslaved people in their own country to be inspired by Haiti’s self-liberation and rise up.

So, Haiti’s president, eager for the trade and security of international recognition, bowed to France’s demands. With that, Haiti set another precedent: It became the world’s first and only country where the descendants of enslaved people paid reparations to the descendants of their masters — for generations.

It is often called the “independence debt.” But that is a misnomer. It was a ransom.

The amount was far beyond Haiti’s meager means. Even the first installment was about six times the government’s income that year, based on official receipts documented by the 19th-century Haitian historian Beaubrun Ardouin.

But that was the point, and part of the plan. The French king had given the baron a second mission: to ensure the former colony took out a loan from young French banks to make the payments.

This became known as Haiti’s “double debt” — the ransom and the loan to pay it — a stunning load that boosted the fledgling Parisian international banking system and helped cement Haiti’s path into poverty and underdevelopment. According to Ardouin’s records, the bankers’ commissions alone exceeded the Haitian government’s total revenues that year.


Then right wingers can't understnd why some blacks call whites devils.
 
70 years ago, we bombed Japan into ash and rubble.

Today they are a first world country.


Some nations bounce back from adversity. Others take a different path.
Yeah? How much was Japan charged in reparations? Too, Japan's rice crop was pretty much left alone.
 
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Yeah? How much was Japan charged in reparations? Too, Japan's rice crop was pretty much left alone.

Well, the US isn't as harsh a nation as France is. We are generally very generous with our defeated enemies.
 
Well, the US isn't as harsh a nation as France is. We are generally very generous with our defeated enemies.
But not in Haiti. The US extracted what it could from it. Everyone knows why.
 
Then right wingers can't understnd why some blacks call whites devils.

I really don't give a Flying F about any of that BS....I WORRY ABOUT CUTTING MY GRASS AND PAYING MY BILLS.

The reason some blacks call whites devils is because thier minds are polluted.

Its the same reason some white call all blacks thiefs'.
 
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And then complains Haiti is poor after bankrupting it.

Oh.

MAGA

Right.
 
Though France received its last indemnity payment in 1888, the United States funded the acquisition of Haiti's treasury in 1911 to receive interest payments related to the indemnity. In 1922, the rest of Haiti's debt to France was transferred to American investors.
 
If I said that white countries made black countries like Haiti shitholes, the hollering would never end. Over the time I have been here, I have read endless posts by whites dissing black run countries. The NY Times wrote a series called The Ransom. Now it's time some whites learned the truth.

The Ransom

The Root of Haiti’s Misery: Reparations to Enslavers​

...for generations after independence, Haitians were forced to pay the descendants of their former slave masters, including the Empress of Brazil; the son-in-law of the Russian Emperor Nicholas I; Germany’s last imperial chancellor; and Gaston de Galliffet, the French general known as the “butcher of the Commune” for crushing an insurrection in Paris in 1871.

Twenty-one years after Haiti’s revolutionary heroes declared their country’s independence, swearing to die before being put back in chains or living under French domination again, a squadron of French warships — equipped with some 500 cannons — loomed off Haiti’s coastline.

The king’s envoy, the Baron of Mackau, issued a daunting ultimatum:

Hand over a staggering sum in reparations to Haiti’s former slave masters, or face another war.

The Haitians had ample reason for alarm. Two decades earlier, Napoleon had tried to destroy them, sending one of the largest expeditions of warships ever dispatched by France, with his brother-in-law at the helm. The Haitians won and declared independence. Napoleon lost more troops than he did at Waterloo and withdrew.

But rich French colonists continued to press to reconquer the territory, and they found another sympathetic ear when the Bourbon monarchy returned to power. One minister of the navy, a former colonist and prominent defender of slavery, even drafted a new plan to put Haitians back in bondage or “crush them” with a still larger army.

No country could be expected to come to Haiti’s defense. The world powers had frozen it out, refusing to officially acknowledge its independence. American lawmakers in particular did not want enslaved people in their own country to be inspired by Haiti’s self-liberation and rise up.

So, Haiti’s president, eager for the trade and security of international recognition, bowed to France’s demands. With that, Haiti set another precedent: It became the world’s first and only country where the descendants of enslaved people paid reparations to the descendants of their masters — for generations.

It is often called the “independence debt.” But that is a misnomer. It was a ransom.

The amount was far beyond Haiti’s meager means. Even the first installment was about six times the government’s income that year, based on official receipts documented by the 19th-century Haitian historian Beaubrun Ardouin.

But that was the point, and part of the plan. The French king had given the baron a second mission: to ensure the former colony took out a loan from young French banks to make the payments.

This became known as Haiti’s “double debt” — the ransom and the loan to pay it — a stunning load that boosted the fledgling Parisian international banking system and helped cement Haiti’s path into poverty and underdevelopment. According to Ardouin’s records, the bankers’ commissions alone exceeded the Haitian government’s total revenues that year.


Then right wingers can't understnd why some blacks call whites devils.
Actually its the French
 
If I said that white countries made black countries like Haiti shitholes, the hollering would never end. Over the time I have been here, I have read endless posts by whites dissing black run countries. The NY Times wrote a series called The Ransom. Now it's time some whites learned the truth.

The Ransom

The Root of Haiti’s Misery: Reparations to Enslavers​

...for generations after independence, Haitians were forced to pay the descendants of their former slave masters, including the Empress of Brazil; the son-in-law of the Russian Emperor Nicholas I; Germany’s last imperial chancellor; and Gaston de Galliffet, the French general known as the “butcher of the Commune” for crushing an insurrection in Paris in 1871.

Twenty-one years after Haiti’s revolutionary heroes declared their country’s independence, swearing to die before being put back in chains or living under French domination again, a squadron of French warships — equipped with some 500 cannons — loomed off Haiti’s coastline.

The king’s envoy, the Baron of Mackau, issued a daunting ultimatum:

Hand over a staggering sum in reparations to Haiti’s former slave masters, or face another war.

The Haitians had ample reason for alarm. Two decades earlier, Napoleon had tried to destroy them, sending one of the largest expeditions of warships ever dispatched by France, with his brother-in-law at the helm. The Haitians won and declared independence. Napoleon lost more troops than he did at Waterloo and withdrew.

But rich French colonists continued to press to reconquer the territory, and they found another sympathetic ear when the Bourbon monarchy returned to power. One minister of the navy, a former colonist and prominent defender of slavery, even drafted a new plan to put Haitians back in bondage or “crush them” with a still larger army.

No country could be expected to come to Haiti’s defense. The world powers had frozen it out, refusing to officially acknowledge its independence. American lawmakers in particular did not want enslaved people in their own country to be inspired by Haiti’s self-liberation and rise up.

So, Haiti’s president, eager for the trade and security of international recognition, bowed to France’s demands. With that, Haiti set another precedent: It became the world’s first and only country where the descendants of enslaved people paid reparations to the descendants of their masters — for generations.

It is often called the “independence debt.” But that is a misnomer. It was a ransom.

The amount was far beyond Haiti’s meager means. Even the first installment was about six times the government’s income that year, based on official receipts documented by the 19th-century Haitian historian Beaubrun Ardouin.

But that was the point, and part of the plan. The French king had given the baron a second mission: to ensure the former colony took out a loan from young French banks to make the payments.

This became known as Haiti’s “double debt” — the ransom and the loan to pay it — a stunning load that boosted the fledgling Parisian international banking system and helped cement Haiti’s path into poverty and underdevelopment. According to Ardouin’s records, the bankers’ commissions alone exceeded the Haitian government’s total revenues that year.


Then right wingers can't understnd why some blacks call whites devils.
The French hurt the Haitian economy, and then later the Clintons destroyed it
 
Then right wingers can't understnd why some blacks call whites devils.

Okay. The world has dumped far more money into Haiti than it's ever taken out of it, and yet the place is still a shithole.



Meanwhile, Germany and Japan were bombed to rubble, and they sprang back as vibrant economies.

China underwent a century of Western/Japanese exploitation, followed by decades of Communist mismanagement, and it is now one of the world's dominant economies.
 
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Actually its the French


Racists like IM2, like to blame people for what other people do.


Thus, he ignores that it was the french, so he can smear all white people.


He is scum of the earth like that.
 
70 years ago, we bombed Japan into ash and rubble.

Today they are a first world country.

Some nations bounce back from adversity.

Especially when they get billions in US investments and the US military protects them rather than propping up strongmen.
 
Notice how the honkies who supposedly caused Haiti's grief were liberal, French speaking Eurotrash.

Not Americans at all.

Libs in America still celebrate to this day the Eurotrash who plunged the world into 2 world wars.

BTW, according to the Constitution of Haiti, Polish people are legally black. So, in the context of Haiti, I am equal to the OP here.
 
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