How were the “experts” so wrong about 2024 election and will it carry to 2028?

I don’t think people that believe they are fighting Fascism in the US have a clue what Fascism really is. The same goes for those voting for Socialism. Both beliefs are rooted in pure ignorance and misinformation..

Actually, I have a very good idea what Fascism looks like, and it looks like Trump.

Let's look at the checklist.

1) Cult-like devotion to a "Dear Leader". Check.

2) Scapegoating "undesirable groups". Check

3) Militarization of the police and politicization of the military. Check.

4) Beligerance on the international scene. Check. Seriously, we are blowing up ******* fishing boats.
 
Actually, I have a very good idea what Fascism looks like, and it looks like Trump.

Let's look at the checklist.

1) Cult-like devotion to a "Dear Leader". Check.

2) Scapegoating "undesirable groups". Check

3) Militarization of the police and politicization of the military. Check.

4) Beligerance on the international scene. Check. Seriously, we are blowing up ******* fishing boats.
Fishing Boats! Do us all a favor and move the hell out of the country, you root for the bad guys every single time, because you are a sore loser.
 
Fishing Boats! Do us all a favor and move the hell out of the country, you root for the bad guys every single time, because you are a sore loser.

I don't mistake the fascist clown who scammed his way into the white house for "my country".

I've seen no evidence these boats were anything except fishing boats.
 
Fascism thrives on misinformation. That and identifying and animating the populace against an enemy.

Who controls the MSM? The only people I see protesting and fighting are Democrats. They have been causing strife for years by dividing the nation along racial and social/economic lines. The Biden Administration used their influence to shut down speech they didn’t like and to push narratives they espoused. They, along with the Obama administration, heavily weaponized many government agencies. Was that Fascist behavior?

Maybe people know more about fascism than you think.

No, they don’t really know a thing. They know what they have been told by the MSM and their teachers/college professors. If they really knew what it was, they wouldn’t be calling Trump Hitler.
 
Who controls the MSM?

Big corporations, and that's the problem. The MSM normalizes Trump's batshit crazy.

They have been causing strife for years by dividing the nation along racial and social/economic lines.

Really? I see the opposite. The Republicans use racial, religious, and sexual fears to get the working class to vote against their own economic interests.

"Hey, that tranny wants to use your bathroom and that illegal wants to take your job. And that New York guy is (gasp) a Muslim!!!"
 
Well, you can call him that, but it doesn't take away from the fact he's not well. Just look at the shit that he posts to Truth Social when his minders aren't watching him. This is not a well man. If Grandpa did this, we'd take away the keys.

And yet you had no problems voting for a guy that didn’t have a clue what was going on and have most of his duties auto-penned by somebody else.

The Republicans use every recession to take more from the working class. it's why they have them so often. It's not a bug, it's a design feature.

And you double-down on the envy, class-warfare card.

Well, because we have a social welfare state that won't allow that. The problem being that the one percenters have been trying to gut it for the last 40 years.

Well, then social welfare goes too far then doesn’t it? Me in my double-wide, with high speed Internet, sending my kids to a private school, having a second double-wide at the lake, a business property, etc. Why on earth should I be getting so much social welfare? Oh wait, maybe I don’t. Maybe I pay for the abuse of social welfare, which is why I am against Democrats and their insatiable appetitive to take money from those that make it and give it to those that choose to spend their days riding bicycles naked and protesting just how bad everything is.

The "Way we were" is just indulging the worst of white male anger. It's not the feminist who makes your life miserable, or the black person asking nicely to not be shot during a traffic stop, or the LGBTQ person having sex you don't like. It's the rich person who has too much and wants more at your expense.

Society must progress, but there is a line, otherwise where does it stop? Boys think they are girls and we accept that as a thing. We indulge their delusion. What happens when we start indulging furries? They are equally delusional, but hey, if they want to be a dog, then we should not only allow them to do so, but maybe even have the government pay for an operation to give them the floppy ears from their choice of breed. Sound over the top? I can assure you that 50 years ago most would have called cutting off someone’s genitals for “free” to appease them would have been just as over the top.

And when Trump gives us Great Depression II with his Crypto-scams, you might want to start learning the words to the International.

Barring another COVID, a terrorist attack or you nuts burning down an entire city in a temper tantrum, our economy will be flourishing when he leaves office. I don’t put anything pays you nuts though because politics above country every single time. Many Democrats would be ok destroying the country before seeing Trump being successful. That would mean, gasp, admitting that they were wrong and had been duped. Democrats are anything but humble enough to do that.
 
Big corporations, and that's the problem. The MSM normalizes Trump's batshit crazy.

You are lost in the wilderness if you can’t see how the MSM promotes the leftist ideology.

Really? I see the opposite. The Republicans use racial, religious, and sexual fears to get the working class to vote against their own economic interests.

Nope. Democrats are the ones creating race and gender based government programs(systemic). Republicans are the ones saying that we should treat everyone equally, not based on race and gender. We do believe that men are men and women are women. You got us on that one.

We aren’t voting against our economic interest. Just because very wealthy people may be getting wealthier doesn’t mean they are talking it from me. My net worth has been steadily increasing for years. My double-wides have exponentially increased in value. If the Democrats get their way, they would take some of my net worth to give to illegals or whomever they see fit. I know exactly what I am voting for.
 
Actually, I have a very good idea what Fascism looks like, and it looks like Trump.

Let's look at the checklist.

1) Cult-like devotion to a "Dear Leader". Check.

2) Scapegoating "undesirable groups". Check

3) Militarization of the police and politicization of the military. Check.

4) Beligerance on the international scene. Check. Seriously, we are blowing up ******* fishing boats.

Yep, you don’t have a clue. Thank you for the clarification.
 
And yet you had no problems voting for a guy that didn’t have a clue what was going on and have most of his duties auto-penned by somebody else.

I think it was wrong for the people around Biden to cover up for his mental decline in his last year (and it was really only his last year this was an issue). He should have invoked the 25th Amendment and stepped aside.

But here's the difference. Biden surrounded himself with people who knew what they were doing.

Trump surrounds himself with people like Kegseth, RatFucK Jr., Miller, ICE Barbie, and other loons who have no idea what they are doing or don't care.

And you double-down on the envy, class-warfare card.

The class warfare started when every recession became an excuse to cut my pay. I'm just sorry it took me until 2008 to realize it.

Well, then social welfare goes too far then doesn’t it? Me in my

Why are you so insecure that you have to brag about how well you are supposedly doing?

The point is, most people aren't doing well. Trump has bought into the White House by blaming immigrants for what rich people are doing to you, but that only last so long.

Society must progress, but there is a line, otherwise where does it stop? Boys think they are girls and we accept that as a thing. We indulge their delusion. What happens when we start indulging furries? They are equally delusional, but hey, if they want to be a dog, then we should not only allow them to do so, but maybe even have the government pay for an operation to give them the floppy ears from their choice of breed. Sound over the top? I can assure you that 50 years ago most would have called cutting off someone’s genitals for “free” to appease them would have been just as over the top.

Um, okay —you see, you engage in the typical bait-and-switch. You can't really argue against transgender people, so you immediately switch to furries. (I will admit, I've never seen a furry in the workplace, I think the costumes would make it hard to work a computer."

50 years ago, we didn't understand gender dysphoria the way we do now.

Then again, you are probably one of these nuts who thinks vaccines cause autism because we've gotten better at identifying who is on the spectrum.



Barring another COVID, a terrorist attack or you nuts burning down an entire city in a temper tantrum, our economy will be flourishing when he leaves office. I don’t put anything pays you nuts though because politics above country every single time. Many Democrats would be ok destroying the country before seeing Trump being successful. That would mean, gasp, admitting that they were wrong and had been duped. Democrats are anything but humble enough to do that.

Wow, you are fantasizing, aren't you?

Let's look how Trump is wrecking the economy.

Tariffs- Screwing up free trade, putting extra expenses on businesses, causing countries that buy American products to go elsewhere.

Crypto- That's one big old bubble that's going to pop in a very ugly way, very soon.

AI - Eliminating millions of jobs, even though the technology really isn't there yet. (Not to mention the environmental devastation). Instead of taking a breather on this, Trump is encouraging it.

The thing is, when Trump wrecks the economy, you will be back here trashing around trying to find anyone else to blame.

The reality is, every recession, we accept a little less. I'd love to have my old life before Covid back. I'd love to have my old life before Bush back.

But in 2000, I thought that a President lying about a blow job was the worst thing ever.

Now I know better.
 
Who controls the MSM? The only people I see protesting and fighting are Democrats. They have been causing strife for years by dividing the nation along racial and social/economic lines. The Biden Administration used their influence to shut down speech they didn’t like and to push narratives they espoused. They, along with the Obama administration, heavily weaponized many government agencies. Was that Fascist behavior?
This is sort of a stream of knee jerk reactions with little actual thesis.

Think more along the lines of “Haitians are eating the cats and dogs”, but it obviously goes well beyond that. Remember how you were told under Obama that he was faking the unemployment numbers before the election in 2012? It seemed outlandish at that time, but now it’s common place. Your belief in “weaponization” is just another disinformation tactic that permits you to believe whatever you want to believe.

No, they don’t really know a thing. They know what they have been told by the MSM and their teachers/college professors. If they really knew what it was, they wouldn’t be calling Trump Hitler.
Yeah, imagine listening to people who have researched and investigated fascism.

Oh wait, that actually seems like a smart thing to do. What do you base your knowledge of fascism on? Hogan’s Heroes?
 
I don't mistake the fascist clown who scammed his way into the white house for "my country".

I've seen no evidence these boats were anything except fishing boats.
As I said you root for drug dealers!
 
Fishing Boats! Do us all a favor and move the hell out of the country, you root for the bad guys every single time, because you are a sore loser.
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Which experts?

In the lead-up to the 2024 United States presidential election, most major forecasting models and analysts gave the edge to Donald Trump (Republican) over Kamala Harris (Democrat).



In short: while the race was widely regarded as very competitive, the consensus tilt was toward Trump as the favorite.


Nice attempt to re-write history, but it is false. The Real Clear Politics average had Harris up .1% on election day. The polling has been off for every election Donald Trump has ever been in, and the bias is always pro Dim. The aggregate polls have been off from 2.9%-4.2%. In 2024 they were off 3%.




Polling for most major media is off 3% to 4% pro Dim. The polls in Virginia and New Jersey in this election cycle are way off. For Dims most elections are like Charlie Brown with the football. The polls tell you Dims will win and then the football gets taken away at the last minute. And you fall for it every time.
 
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Nice attempt to re-write history, but it is false. The Real Clear Politics average had Harris up .1% on election day. The polling has been off for every election Donald Trump has ever been in, and the bias is always pro Dim. The aggregate polls have been off from 2.9%-4.2%. In 2024 they were off 3%.




Polling for most major media is off 3% to 4% pro Dim. The polls in Virginia and New Jersey in this election cycle are way off. For Dims most elections are like Charlie Brown with the football. The polls tell you Dims will win and then the football gets taken away at the last minute. And you fall for it every time.
Once again, popular election polls are irrelevant

The only polls that matter are polls in key swing states. That is how elections are won

Trump was ahead in swing state polls
 
I don't mistake the fascist clown who scammed his way into the white house for "my country".

I've seen no evidence these boats were anything except fishing boats.

Our traditional tactic of dealing with drugs smuggled by boat is to have the Coast Guard intercept them. With satellites and electronic surveillance, it is becoming more effective.

Arbitrarily killing everyone on a suspected boat is not credible law enforcement
 

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