How to Tell If We’re Beating COVID-19

[dblack]

When the deaths start happening like in Italy or Spain, then be sure to remember QUARANTINE AND SANITATION. This is the way we can beat this thing for now since no vaccine.

I’m not sure you ‘beat’ this thing anymore than we do with the flu every year.

Yeah. Outside some yet undetected weakness in the virus, it's probably part of the eco-system at this point. We'll just have to build up immunity and develop a vaccine.

And you think that’s on tree and we just go pick it

No, I don't think anything is on a tree. I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

 

[Jarlaxle]

When the deaths start happening like in Italy or Spain, then be sure to remember QUARANTINE AND SANITATION. This is the way we can beat this thing for now since no vaccine.

All cases are faked and basing on the wrong statistic.

There are far more people that have it and are asymptomatic and some that got it and thought it was a nasty flu and over it now. Therefore the mortality rate is much closer to the seasonal flu, although still deadlier. Then you have many that show up at hospitals in almost critical condition that have to be administered two or three different tests before coming up positive for Covid-19.

These are all factors that make the numbers unreliable.

My friend thinks he may have had it. He was sick for about a week in early January...at the time, he figured he had either a bad chest cold or bronchitis.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Doctors who do autopsies have a hard time doing it without endangering themselves so it may not be done. I think by law one has to do an autopsy if the patient dies in the hospital, but this is being waived.

The US is considering a cremation order. Those who die from this remain a danger to everyone that could come in contact them.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I stand corrected. The cremation order has already been instituted under CDC guidelines and the Emergency declaration by Trump.

Attended deaths do not require autopsy. The danger to staff in COVID19 deaths is prohibitive.

Legal Authorities for Isolation and Quarantine | Quarantine | CDC

Isolation and quarantine help protect the public by preventing exposure to people who have or may have a contagious disease. Page content includes the regulatory authority and definitions of isolation and quarantine.

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The federal government derives its authority for isolation and quarantine from the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution.


Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264), the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.


The authority for carrying out these functions on a daily basis has been delegated to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

 

[Weatherman2020]

Another source of information the government or media isn’t telling us.

The Captain's Journal

 

[Weatherman2020]

Most people will have to get this and survive, which they will, in order to truly beat it. I know many that have gotten it, friends and family, that had it and are now over it, without hospitalization. Hopefully we will save enough of the vulnerable on this run around before the next time, when we will be ready for it. The 30 day "social distancing" was to get the hospitals ready with beds and equipment for the rush that will occur when we open up the economy. This virus will go away in a few months when the weather gets hot, the question is will we have a country and an economy left. Trump is doing a very good job striking the delicate balance.

I suppose I disagree and that is because of the sticky substance that COVID-19 leaves on one's lungs. It's isn't something that we can expectorate through phlegm. When one gets the regular flu, they'll usually have a clear substance drip out of their nose. This respiratory virus is different. I think it has mutated so that its residue stays on the lungs for a while so that catching a second wave would make one with an "underlying condition." It think it's a killer virus at its worst and has mutated. It wants to get to our lungs in order to thrive. That's where it can thrive the best and then still be able to pass it on. Doctors who do autopsies have a hard time doing it without endangering themselves so it may not be done. I think by law one has to do an autopsy if the patient dies in the hospital, but this is being waived.

Some doctors will have to do the autopsies. It's the only way we can learn more about this virus and come up with a way to defeat it. The doctors now are learning enough just in order to help a patient to breathe when they have it in their lungs.

One of the ways you know you have the sticky substance is that you find it hard to breathe. You won't be able to go far. It will feel like an elephant is sitting on your chest or when you breathe your lungs are filled with glass. These are clear symptoms that you need to get to a hospital.

Except you can’t prove it more serious than any other virus, no numbers

The nos I have is 10x more deaths than the regular flu or 1% and that would include the people who get it a second or more times. Dr. Fauci is saying 100,000 deaths. That's the low number. Multiply the number of deaths by 100 and you get the number who would have been confirmed.

Up to 500,000 a year die from the flu.

Return of pandemic H1N1 influenza virus

Influenza pandemics are usually caused by the re-assortment of several influenza viruses, results in the emergence of new influenza virus strains that can infect the entire population. These pandemic strains, as well as seasonal influenza viruses, are ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Up to 500,000 a year die from the flu.
Return of pandemic H1N1 influenza virus

Yes, the very experts you are shitting on are the ones who taught you that. How stupid of you.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Up to 500,000 a year die from the flu.
Return of pandemic H1N1 influenza virus

Yes, the very experts you are shitting on are the ones who taught you that. How stupid of you.

Just exposing their hypocrisy. If you refuse to see the facts of the data so you can remain a good sheeple, that’s your problem.

 

[james bond]

Most people will have to get this and survive, which they will, in order to truly beat it. I know many that have gotten it, friends and family, that had it and are now over it, without hospitalization. Hopefully we will save enough of the vulnerable on this run around before the next time, when we will be ready for it. The 30 day "social distancing" was to get the hospitals ready with beds and equipment for the rush that will occur when we open up the economy. This virus will go away in a few months when the weather gets hot, the question is will we have a country and an economy left. Trump is doing a very good job striking the delicate balance.

I suppose I disagree and that is because of the sticky substance that COVID-19 leaves on one's lungs. It's isn't something that we can expectorate through phlegm. When one gets the regular flu, they'll usually have a clear substance drip out of their nose. This respiratory virus is different. I think it has mutated so that its residue stays on the lungs for a while so that catching a second wave would make one with an "underlying condition." It think it's a killer virus at its worst and has mutated. It wants to get to our lungs in order to thrive. That's where it can thrive the best and then still be able to pass it on. Doctors who do autopsies have a hard time doing it without endangering themselves so it may not be done. I think by law one has to do an autopsy if the patient dies in the hospital, but this is being waived.

Some doctors will have to do the autopsies. It's the only way we can learn more about this virus and come up with a way to defeat it. The doctors now are learning enough just in order to help a patient to breathe when they have it in their lungs.

One of the ways you know you have the sticky substance is that you find it hard to breathe. You won't be able to go far. It will feel like an elephant is sitting on your chest or when you breathe your lungs are filled with glass. These are clear symptoms that you need to get to a hospital.

Except you can’t prove it more serious than any other virus, no numbers

The nos I have is 10x more deaths than the regular flu or 1% and that would include the people who get it a second or more times. Dr. Fauci is saying 100,000 deaths. That's the low number. Multiply the number of deaths by 100 and you get the number who would have been confirmed.

Up to 500,000 a year die from the flu.

Return of pandemic H1N1 influenza virus

Influenza pandemics are usually caused by the re-assortment of several influenza viruses, results in the emergence of new influenza virus strains that can infect the entire population. These pandemic strains, as well as seasonal influenza viruses, are ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

That's the swine flu, another pandemic, not the regular flu.

Let's delve into Fauci's nos to see how it stacks up with the regular flu. I think this is what he says COVID-19 is 10x worse to in terms of the mortality rate. The most recent data I could get was from 2017 - 2018 flu season. In the US, there were an estimated 80,000 deaths and 900,000 hospitalizations from the regular flu. The COVID-19 is suppose to kill 100,000 (low number) and that means there will be 10,000,000 or 10 million people with confirmed COVID-19. That is close to 10x the number of regular flu victims.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just exposing their hypocrisy

No you're not. You're exposing yourself as a moron who, despite the efforts of literally every media outlet and scientific organization to spoonfeed them to you, still can't seem to grasp the most basic concepts of this crisis.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Just exposing their hypocrisy

No you're not. You're exposing yourself as a moron who, despite the efforts of literally every media outlet and scientific organization to spoonfeed them to you, still can't seem to grasp the most basic concepts of this crisis.

Yeah. I’m posting data and charts, you’re blathering quotes you heard from CNN.

You can’t rebutt the data, you’re just into personal attacks.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Most people will have to get this and survive, which they will, in order to truly beat it. I know many that have gotten it, friends and family, that had it and are now over it, without hospitalization. Hopefully we will save enough of the vulnerable on this run around before the next time, when we will be ready for it. The 30 day "social distancing" was to get the hospitals ready with beds and equipment for the rush that will occur when we open up the economy. This virus will go away in a few months when the weather gets hot, the question is will we have a country and an economy left. Trump is doing a very good job striking the delicate balance.

I suppose I disagree and that is because of the sticky substance that COVID-19 leaves on one's lungs. It's isn't something that we can expectorate through phlegm. When one gets the regular flu, they'll usually have a clear substance drip out of their nose. This respiratory virus is different. I think it has mutated so that its residue stays on the lungs for a while so that catching a second wave would make one with an "underlying condition." It think it's a killer virus at its worst and has mutated. It wants to get to our lungs in order to thrive. That's where it can thrive the best and then still be able to pass it on. Doctors who do autopsies have a hard time doing it without endangering themselves so it may not be done. I think by law one has to do an autopsy if the patient dies in the hospital, but this is being waived.

Some doctors will have to do the autopsies. It's the only way we can learn more about this virus and come up with a way to defeat it. The doctors now are learning enough just in order to help a patient to breathe when they have it in their lungs.

One of the ways you know you have the sticky substance is that you find it hard to breathe. You won't be able to go far. It will feel like an elephant is sitting on your chest or when you breathe your lungs are filled with glass. These are clear symptoms that you need to get to a hospital.

Except you can’t prove it more serious than any other virus, no numbers

The nos I have is 10x more deaths than the regular flu or 1% and that would include the people who get it a second or more times. Dr. Fauci is saying 100,000 deaths. That's the low number. Multiply the number of deaths by 100 and you get the number who would have been confirmed.

Up to 500,000 a year die from the flu.

Return of pandemic H1N1 influenza virus

Influenza pandemics are usually caused by the re-assortment of several influenza viruses, results in the emergence of new influenza virus strains that can infect the entire population. These pandemic strains, as well as seasonal influenza viruses, are ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

That's the swine flu, another pandemic, not the regular flu.

Let's delve into Fauci's nos to see how it stacks up with the regular flu. I think this is what he says COVID-19 is 10x worse to in terms of the mortality rate. The most recent data I could get was from 2017 - 2018 flu season. In the US, there were an estimated 80,000 deaths and 900,000 hospitalizations from the regular flu. The COVID-19 is suppose to kill 100,000 (low number) and that means there will be 10,000,000 or 10 million people with confirmed COVID-19. That is close to 10x the number of regular flu victims.

“Annual epidemics of seasonal influenza are estimated to result in approximately three to five million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths worldwide”

And nobody ever blinked.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah. I’m posting data and charts

That you don't understand and which don't support your moronic points, which themselves are designed merely to protect Dear Leadre's ego.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yeah. I’m posting data and charts

That you don't understand and which don't support your moronic points, which themselves are designed merely to protect Dear Leadre's ego.

More lies. The fact you can’t post statistics tells us who’s confused.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah. I’m posting data and charts

That you don't understand and which don't support your moronic points, which themselves are designed merely to protect Dear Leadre's ego.

More lies. The fact you can’t post statistics tells us who’s confused.

Of course I can post statistics. what kind of retard are you? Anyone can post statistics.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yeah. I’m posting data and charts

That you don't understand and which don't support your moronic points, which themselves are designed merely to protect Dear Leadre's ego.

More lies. The fact you can’t post statistics tells us who’s confused.

Of course I can post statistics. what kind of retard are you? Anyone can post statistics.

Yet again troll girl rants away with meaningless blather.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

The nos I have is 10x more deaths than the regular flu

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

The current numbers are much higher than "10 times". In the best example, South korea, death rate is 1%, which is, indeed, ten times higher than seasonal flu. "10 times" might turn out to be the low end.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The nos I have is 10x more deaths than the regular flu

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

And nobody bats an eye.

 

[james bond]

“Annual epidemics of seasonal influenza are estimated to result in approximately three to five million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths worldwide”

And nobody ever blinked.

The reason why is we were able to develop a vaccine for them. Not with COVID-19. It's a different respiratory virus from influenza. That's why I think it's the most dangerous killer virus we have ever faced in the history of the world. With the 1918 flu (no vaccine), the US had 625,000 deaths (estimated). Fauci's nos are much less, but we haven't had the first wave yet. Testing has begun (in Seattle for one) with unprecedented urgency. I don't think it starts with human trials that fast in regular influenza vaccine development.

Trump is doing the opposite of Obama who played up the swine flu along with the MSM. They wanted to get Obamacare. It's just sad that things won't go as optimistically with COVID-19 as Trump thinks. The key is getting a vaccine somehow.