How to Tell If We’re Beating COVID-19

[jc456]

When the deaths start happening like in Italy or Spain, then be sure to remember QUARANTINE AND SANITATION. This is the way we can beat this thing for now since no vaccine.

I’m not sure you ‘beat’ this thing anymore than we do with the flu every year.

Yeah. Outside some yet undetected weakness in the virus, it's probably part of the eco-system at this point. We'll just have to build up immunity and develop a vaccine.

And you think that’s on tree and we just go pick it

No, I don't think anything is on a tree. I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

It’s simple, something doesn’t exist, you need to make it. And that takes time. It’s not on a tree. Expecting that trump snap his fingers makes equipment appear is a leftists position.

 

[jc456]

“Annual epidemics of seasonal influenza are estimated to result in approximately three to five million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths worldwide”

And nobody ever blinked.

The reason why is we were able to develop a vaccine for them. Not with COVID-19. It's a different respiratory virus from influenza. That's why I think it's the most dangerous killer virus we have ever faced in the history of the world. With the 1918 flu (no vaccine), the US had 625,000 deaths (estimated). Fauci's nos are much less, but we haven't had the first wave yet. Testing has begun (in Seattle for one) with unprecedented urgency. I don't think it starts with human trials that fast in regular influenza vaccine development.

Trump is doing the opposite of Obama who played up the swine flu along with the MSM. They wanted to get Obamacare. It's just sad that things won't go as optimistically with COVID-19 as Trump thinks. The key is getting a vaccine somehow.

Based off what?

 

[james bond]

The nos I have is 10x more deaths than the regular flu

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

You have to trust the medical experts. This isn't like the swine flu in 2009 where Obama and the MSM played around with the nos as a vaccine was developed the same year.

 

[jc456]

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

The current numbers are much higher than "10 times". In the best example, South korea, death rate is 1%, which is, indeed, ten times higher than seasonal flu. "10 times" might turn out to be the low end.

Show us the first thirty days figures h1n1 vs Wuhan or you have no relevant data to make such a statement

 

[jc456]

The nos I have is 10x more deaths than the regular flu

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

You have to trust the medical experts. This isn't like the swine flu in 2009 where Obama and the MSM played around with the nos as a vaccine was developed the same year.

No evidence of that

 

[Weatherman2020]

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

The current numbers are much higher than "10 times". In the best example, South korea, death rate is 1%, which is, indeed, ten times higher than seasonal flu. "10 times" might turn out to be the low end.

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

The current numbers are much higher than "10 times". In the best example, South korea, death rate is 1%, which is, indeed, ten times higher than seasonal flu. "10 times" might turn out to be the low end.

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

Obama was president, so there was no need

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Show us the first thirty days figures h1n1 vs Wuhan

No, I am not your assistant. You post those numbers, and then clearly state your point. Then we will see if it holds up. Welcome to adulting.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The nos I have is 10x more deaths than the regular flu

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

You have to trust the medical experts. This isn't like the swine flu in 2009 where Obama and the MSM played around with the nos as a vaccine was developed the same year.

I trust no one.
A doctors perspective is everyone wear bubble suits 7/24 and never leave the house. And that’s legit from their perspective.

But real life says we have to go out and work.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Show us the first thirty days figures h1n1 vs Wuhan

No, I am not your assistant. You post those numbers, and then clearly state your point. Then we will see if it holds up. Welcome to adulting.

Yep. Data flies right over your head.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

Translation: you have absolutely no idea what the differences are, or why there was a different response, or even what the response was at all.

 

[Weatherman2020]

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

Translation: you have absolutely no idea what the differences are, or why there was a different response, or even what the response was at all.

Numbers obviously confuse you. And to claim we don’t know what the response to SARS was says you’re just a troll. Either contribute to the discussion or get reported.

 

[james bond]

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

The current numbers are much higher than "10 times". In the best example, South korea, death rate is 1%, which is, indeed, ten times higher than seasonal flu. "10 times" might turn out to be the low end.

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

This is a different SARS caused virus.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And to claim we don’t know what the response to SARS was says you’re just a troll.

You don't.

Let the other babyman make his point. You two babymen throwing their pissy little fits at the same time isn't getting us anywhere.

 

[Weatherman2020]

And to claim we don’t know what the response to SARS was says you’re just a troll.

You don't.

Let the other babyman make his point. You two babymen throwing their pissy little fits at the same time isn't getting us anywhere.

Data vs you playing a submissive sheep.

 

[Weatherman2020]

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

The current numbers are much higher than "10 times". In the best example, South korea, death rate is 1%, which is, indeed, ten times higher than seasonal flu. "10 times" might turn out to be the low end.

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

This is a different SARS caused virus.

Yes, this virus is different from SARS. This virus is not nearly as dangerous as SARS. For which we didn’t even blink for.

 

[dblack]

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

Yep. Because that pretty much ensures it's never going to be a widespread threat. The milder nature of COVID-19 actually makes it more dangerous to society. More deadly diseases burn themselves out. They kill off their hosts before the can replicate. COVID-19, on the other hand, doesn't have life-threatening symptoms for most people who become infected. For many, it has no symptoms at all. It's passed along merrily from person to person without drawing much attention. That makes it much, much harder to deal with as an epidemic. It also makes it more likely to mutate - each replication represents an opportunity to mutate, so a virus that spreads far and wide will be much more likely thwart our efforts at maintaining a reliable vaccine.

In addition, diseases that make people seriously ill are actually more taxing on our health care services, on the economy, on society, that disease that simply kill people. That's a rather cold, utilitarian point of view - but it's true. Hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations due to a new virus (keep in mind this is in addition to all the normal illnesses and flus that our health care services have to deal with) will severely stress our hospitals. Even if the death rate per infection is lower than SARS or H1N1, the overall impact of COVID-19 will be much worse. It already is, and shows little sign of diminishing.

 

[jc456]

There is NO WAY anyone can know if that's accurate. Chances are very high those numbers are high

The current numbers are much higher than "10 times". In the best example, South korea, death rate is 1%, which is, indeed, ten times higher than seasonal flu. "10 times" might turn out to be the low end.

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

Obama was president, so there was no need

What’s that even mean? People died more people died! And what?

 

[jc456]

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

Yep. Because that pretty much ensures it's never going to be a widespread threat. The milder nature of COVID-19 actually makes it more dangerous to society. More deadly diseases burn themselves out. They kill off their hosts before the can replicate. COVID-19, on the other hand, doesn't have life-threatening symptoms for most people who become infected. For many, it has no symptoms at all. It's passed along merrily from person to person without drawing much attention. That makes it much, much harder to deal with as an epidemic. It also makes it more likely to mutate - each replication represents an opportunity to mutate, so a virus that spreads far and wide will be much more likely thwart our efforts at maintaining a reliable vaccine.

In addition, diseases that make people seriously ill are actually more taxing on our health care services, on the economy, on society, that disease that simply kill people. That's a rather cold, utilitarian point of view - but it's true. Hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations due to a new virus (keep in mind this is in addition to all the normal illnesses and flus that our health care services have to deal with) will severely stress our hospitals. Even if the death rate per infection is lower than SARS or H1N1, the overall impact of COVID-19 will be much worse. It already is, and shows little sign of diminishing.

I love it, healthy people carrier!!! Hahaha hahaha you have zip evidence

 

[Weatherman2020]

SARS mortality rate is 9.6%.

And nobody even blinked.

Yep. Because that pretty much ensures it's never going to be a widespread threat. The milder nature of COVID-19 actually makes it more dangerous to society. More deadly diseases burn themselves out. They kill off their hosts before the can replicate. COVID-19, on the other hand, doesn't have life-threatening symptoms for most people who become infected. For many, it has no symptoms at all. It's passed along merrily from person to person without drawing much attention. That makes it much, much harder to deal with as an epidemic. It also makes it more likely to mutate - each replication represents an opportunity to mutate, so a virus that spreads far and wide will be much more likely thwart our efforts at maintaining a reliable vaccine.

In addition, diseases that make people seriously ill are actually more taxing on our health care services, on the economy, on society, that disease that simply kill people. That's a rather cold, utilitarian point of view - but it's true. Hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations due to a new virus (keep in mind this is in addition to all the normal illnesses and flus that our health care services have to deal with) will severely stress our hospitals. Even if the death rate per infection is lower than SARS or H1N1, the overall impact of COVID-19 will be much worse. It already is, and shows little sign of diminishing.

Stop watching CNN. You aren’t contagious until you know you’re sick.