How to save inner city schools.

I am not enabling deadbeat Dads. I am trying to explain to you that it is not as easy as you claim it to be. What you propose is that which you would find in authoritarian societies. Why not just go back to the old shotgun weddings? Just force people to submit to DNA tests at gunpoint.

I am sorry that you are so dense you don't "get it".
You’re really sounding like a Democrat these days: calling people “dense” because they disagree with you.

I never said it would be perfect. But it would move more fathers to pay child support than do now, and in doing so relieve the taxpayer from supporting many of these kids and also show that government charity programs should be the LAST option for all these irresponsible mothers, not the first.
 
You’re really sounding like a Democrat these days: calling people “dense” because they disagree with you.

I never said it would be perfect. But it would move more fathers to pay child support than do now, and in doing so relieve the taxpayer from supporting many of these kids and also show that government charity programs should be the LAST option for all these irresponsible mothers, not the first.
You don't disagree. You are wrong, and I have explained it to you several times and you don't get it! That means you are dense. Apparently, you are the Democrat because they don't believe in the rule of law, just like you don't.

In a perfect world, you would be right, but we don't live there, do we?
 
You don't disagree. You are wrong, and I have explained it to you several times and you don't get it! That means you are dense. Apparently, you are the Democrat because they don't believe in the rule of law, just like you don't.

In a perfect world, you would be right, but we don't live there, do we?
Haha. Now you’re really sounding like a Democrat: “it’s not that we have different opinions, it’s that I am right and you are wrong.”

Perfect is the enemy of good. We can make some real inroads into getting many deadbeat dads into kicking in for their child, or we can wait until we come up with something “perfect” and let them ALL get away with having responsible taxpayers support their kids until we do.
 
Haha. Now you’re really sounding like a Democrat: “it’s not that we have different opinions, it’s that I am right and you are wrong.”

Perfect is the enemy of good. We can make some real inroads into getting many deadbeat dads into kicking in for their child, or we can wait until we come up with something “perfect” and let them ALL get away with having responsible taxpayers support their kids until we do.
Your opinions are not based on facts. That is why you are wrong.

You just want to violate their constitutional rights is what you want to do.

Do you ever watch a cop show on TV and see how they cannot force people to give DNA samples, so they follow them around until they throw away their cup or leave a drinking glass on the table? They can also root through their trash to find it!

My wife is Law and Order, Dateline, and other investigative TV show addict, so I am forced to watch it too!
 
That's evidence. Can any woman pick a random man and claim that you and she had sex, and he is the father of your child? Yes! Very easily. It's she said, he said if he denies it. You have no facts and no evidence, only an accusation. Maybe you should take a law course.
DNA tests can always determine paternity.
 
Your opinions are not based on facts. That is why you are wrong.

You just want to violate their constitutional rights is what you want to do.

Do you ever watch a cop show on TV and see how they cannot force people to give DNA samples, so they follow them around until they throw away their cup or leave a drinking glass on the table? They can also root through their trash to find it!

My wife is Law and Order, Dateline, and other investigative TV show addict, so I am forced to watch it too!
They can’t force DNA samples WITHOUT A WARRANT and in the shows they lack probable cause for a warrant. After all, it wouldn’t be much of a show if they solved the crime in the first five minutes. Eyewitness, or should I say vaginal witness would be sufficient probable cause for a warrant.
 
Your opinions are not based on facts. That is why you are wrong.

You just want to violate their constitutional rights is what you want to do.

Do you ever watch a cop show on TV and see how they cannot force people to give DNA samples, so they follow them around until they throw away their cup or leave a drinking glass on the table? They can also root through their trash to find it!

My wife is Law and Order, Dateline, and other investigative TV show addict, so I am forced to watch it too!
In a lot of episodes, they just walk into the interrogation room with a warrant and demand a sample. A woman saying I only had sex during that period with those three men is probable cause for warrants for samples from all three to determine paternity.
 
They can’t force DNA samples WITHOUT A WARRANT and in the shows they lack probable cause for a warrant. After all, it wouldn’t be much of a show if they solved the crime in the first five minutes. Eyewitness, or should I say vaginal witness would be sufficient probable cause for a warrant.
Well, you are wrong! How about them apples?
 
In a lot of episodes, they just walk into the interrogation room with a warrant and demand a sample. A woman saying I only had sex during that period with those three men is probable cause for warrants for samples from all three to determine paternity.
She must have had other evidence, and they would never do a batch sampling. You are simply making shit up!
 
Well, you are wrong! How about them apples?
That is for a judge to determine. Search warrants have been issued for more invasive things on no more than one witness statement. The assumption will be that the mother will have at least some idea of whom she had sex with during the period of conception.
 
That is for a judge to determine. Search warrants have been issued for more invasive things on no more than one witness statement. The assumption will be that the mother will have at least some idea of whom she had sex with during the period of conception.
What if she lying? She could make the accusation to harass him. If he's not the father, then what?
 
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Single mothers no father and democrats control of public schools is the problem. Vouchers and school choice is the solution.
Yep transfer all the problematic and disruptive kids to the private schools.
 
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