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How to deprogram America's extremists
- Thread starter DrLove
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Turtlesoup
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aHHH... another communist wanting to get the government to abuse people.We'd better get to work before we elect another Donald Trump.
It will take an all-out national effort to dismantle the radicalization pipeline that has planted conspiracy theories in the heads of millions of Americans and inspired last month's attack on the Capitol, experts tell Axios.Two key measures that could make a difference:
- Keeping extremists out of the institutions where they could do the greatest damage — like the military, police departments and legislatures.
- Providing help for those who have embraced dangerous ideologies.
Online platforms, meanwhile, must be unwavering in their commitment to root out conspiracy theories and lies that undermine faith in democracy, according to experts interviewed by Axios.
- Radicalization and counterterrorism experts broadly applaud tech companies' efforts, now underway, to remove this material and the accounts that spread it off their platforms, despite heavy blowback from conservatives.
- Twitter's decision to ban Donald Trump is seen on its own as a major asset in the fight to slow or reverse radicalization.
The U.S. needs a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism," Daniel Koehler, director of the German Institute on Radicalization and De-radicalization Studies, told Axios.
- "The spread of extremist conspiracy theories in the United States is the second most dangerous pandemic the country faces right now," he said. "The damage that's been to the U.S. in terms of community and social cohesion will be immense and will be lasting."
- The radicalization is happening in a multitude of online spaces and right-wing media channels, pulling people into an alternate reality that posits, among a growing swarm of other false ideas, that the 2020 election was stolen.
- When it comes to coordinated deradicalization efforts, the U.S. is behind most European countries by 25–30 years, Koehler said.
Experts agree serious resources need to be mustered toward providing an offramp for people who have been drawn into extremist ideologies.
- New federal programs would likely be doomed to fail, experts say, because distrust and hatred of the government is already a core tenet of far-right extremism.
- Instead, private and public-private programs are more likely to be effective, particularly if they're able to get endorsement and funding from federal and state governments.
- Those could include anti-extremism counseling programs and support groups; education programs that work with schools to identify risks and signs of incipient radicalization; and rehabilitation organizations that work with the incarcerated and formerly incarcerated.
One idea, courtesy of Christian Picciolini, a former neo-Nazi leader who founded the Free Radicals Project, which works to help people leave violent extremist groups: a "single entry point" akin to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline "that people recognize, that people trust, that people understand."
- Something like a national hotline or online portal could steer people to local resources to help them or loved ones escape the radicalization pipeline, he said.
How to deprogram America's extremists
What a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism" might look like.www.axios.com
I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.
This should be the #1 initiative in this country.
We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.
Trumpism must be eradicated.
marvin martian
Diamond Member
Lefties are “anti science”. And love “ alternate facts” guess you’d better go sign up for deprogramming ASAP.I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.
This should be the #1 initiative in this country.
We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.
Trumpism must be eradicated.
Still waiting on an example of "lefties" being anti-science. Guess I'll keep waiting.
Your Covid denial is probably the biggest example right now. That and allowing men into women's sports.
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Mushroom and or LSD therapy might offer some of the more violent one hope.
DrLove
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Mushroom and or LSD therapy might offer some of the more violent one hope.
Psilocybin therapy is showing great promise.
Except that I do not wish to encourage Q-Kooks and such to come to Oregon.
Psilocybin Treatment for Mental Health Gets Legal Framework
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_____________________________We'd better get to work before we elect another Donald Trump.
It will take an all-out national effort to dismantle the radicalization pipeline that has planted conspiracy theories in the heads of millions of Americans and inspired last month's attack on the Capitol, experts tell Axios.Two key measures that could make a difference:
- Keeping extremists out of the institutions where they could do the greatest damage — like the military, police departments and legislatures.
- Providing help for those who have embraced dangerous ideologies.
Online platforms, meanwhile, must be unwavering in their commitment to root out conspiracy theories and lies that undermine faith in democracy, according to experts interviewed by Axios.
- Radicalization and counterterrorism experts broadly applaud tech companies' efforts, now underway, to remove this material and the accounts that spread it off their platforms, despite heavy blowback from conservatives.
- Twitter's decision to ban Donald Trump is seen on its own as a major asset in the fight to slow or reverse radicalization.
The U.S. needs a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism," Daniel Koehler, director of the German Institute on Radicalization and De-radicalization Studies, told Axios.
- "The spread of extremist conspiracy theories in the United States is the second most dangerous pandemic the country faces right now," he said. "The damage that's been to the U.S. in terms of community and social cohesion will be immense and will be lasting."
- The radicalization is happening in a multitude of online spaces and right-wing media channels, pulling people into an alternate reality that posits, among a growing swarm of other false ideas, that the 2020 election was stolen.
- When it comes to coordinated deradicalization efforts, the U.S. is behind most European countries by 25–30 years, Koehler said.
Experts agree serious resources need to be mustered toward providing an offramp for people who have been drawn into extremist ideologies.
- New federal programs would likely be doomed to fail, experts say, because distrust and hatred of the government is already a core tenet of far-right extremism.
- Instead, private and public-private programs are more likely to be effective, particularly if they're able to get endorsement and funding from federal and state governments.
- Those could include anti-extremism counseling programs and support groups; education programs that work with schools to identify risks and signs of incipient radicalization; and rehabilitation organizations that work with the incarcerated and formerly incarcerated.
One idea, courtesy of Christian Picciolini, a former neo-Nazi leader who founded the Free Radicals Project, which works to help people leave violent extremist groups: a "single entry point" akin to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline "that people recognize, that people trust, that people understand."
- Something like a national hotline or online portal could steer people to local resources to help them or loved ones escape the radicalization pipeline, he said.
How to deprogram America's extremists
What a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism" might look like.
Is that you Robespierre?
Is your Public Safety Committee setting up its guillotine for 74 million Trump Voters?
____________________________
Are you going to put up signs: Communists and Socialists Only
No, once we rehabilitate extremists (including left wing extremist ideologies such as AntiFa and Anarchists) - we'll have two basic groups remaining: Progressives and Responsible Conservatives. They won't agree on everything within these groups, but that is how you work things out and define parties. There is no place in this country for Q-Kooks, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites or radical militias who disseminate dangerous falsehoods about say - elections. Help is on the way!
What is your solution for those who believe the election was stolen and no amount of "curriculum" changes their opinion?
My guess is that the quickest way to deal with this -- and this would be tough enough -- is for each end to hold its own accountable far more aggressively. People and groups like Antifa and Trumpsters gain influence because their own sides make excuses for them, avoid talking about them, spin for them, even attack for them. Obviously that has to end, because all it does is enable more destructive behavior.No, once we rehabilitate extremists (including left wing extremist ideologies such as AntiFa and Anarchists) - we'll have two basic groups remaining: Progressives and Responsible Conservatives. They won't agree on everything within these groups, but that is how you work things out and define parties. There is no place in this country for Q-Kooks, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites or radical militias who disseminate dangerous falsehoods about say - elections. Help is on the way!
Also obviously, the Trumpsters have far more control over the GQP than Antifa has over the Dems. The Trumpsters essentially control their party now. That should be a cautionary tale. The Democrats can't let that happen to them. But it's already beginning.
Are you going to put up signs: Communists and Socialists Only
No, once we rehabilitate extremists (including left wing extremist ideologies such as AntiFa and Anarchists) - we'll have two basic groups remaining: Progressives and Responsible Conservatives. They won't agree on everything within these groups, but that is how you work things out and define parties. There is no place in this country for Q-Kooks, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites or radical militias who disseminate dangerous falsehoods about say - elections. Help is on the way!
Your party is the party of slavery, segregation, klan, propaganda, anti semites, intolerance. You can project all you want for your prog party but you're going to be called out for their nefarious and reprehensible crimes.
Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
We'd better get to work before we elect another Donald Trump.
It will take an all-out national effort to dismantle the radicalization pipeline that has planted conspiracy theories in the heads of millions of Americans and inspired last month's attack on the Capitol, experts tell Axios.Two key measures that could make a difference:
- Keeping extremists out of the institutions where they could do the greatest damage — like the military, police departments and legislatures.
- Providing help for those who have embraced dangerous ideologies.
Online platforms, meanwhile, must be unwavering in their commitment to root out conspiracy theories and lies that undermine faith in democracy, according to experts interviewed by Axios.
- Radicalization and counterterrorism experts broadly applaud tech companies' efforts, now underway, to remove this material and the accounts that spread it off their platforms, despite heavy blowback from conservatives.
- Twitter's decision to ban Donald Trump is seen on its own as a major asset in the fight to slow or reverse radicalization.
The U.S. needs a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism," Daniel Koehler, director of the German Institute on Radicalization and De-radicalization Studies, told Axios.
- "The spread of extremist conspiracy theories in the United States is the second most dangerous pandemic the country faces right now," he said. "The damage that's been to the U.S. in terms of community and social cohesion will be immense and will be lasting."
- The radicalization is happening in a multitude of online spaces and right-wing media channels, pulling people into an alternate reality that posits, among a growing swarm of other false ideas, that the 2020 election was stolen.
- When it comes to coordinated deradicalization efforts, the U.S. is behind most European countries by 25–30 years, Koehler said.
Experts agree serious resources need to be mustered toward providing an offramp for people who have been drawn into extremist ideologies.
- New federal programs would likely be doomed to fail, experts say, because distrust and hatred of the government is already a core tenet of far-right extremism.
- Instead, private and public-private programs are more likely to be effective, particularly if they're able to get endorsement and funding from federal and state governments.
- Those could include anti-extremism counseling programs and support groups; education programs that work with schools to identify risks and signs of incipient radicalization; and rehabilitation organizations that work with the incarcerated and formerly incarcerated.
One idea, courtesy of Christian Picciolini, a former neo-Nazi leader who founded the Free Radicals Project, which works to help people leave violent extremist groups: a "single entry point" akin to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline "that people recognize, that people trust, that people understand."
- Something like a national hotline or online portal could steer people to local resources to help them or loved ones escape the radicalization pipeline, he said.
How to deprogram America's extremists
What a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism" might look like.
Seig Heil indeed, Herr Hitler.
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Schools not opening.Lefties are “anti science”. And love “ alternate facts” guess you’d better go sign up for deprogramming ASAP.I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.
This should be the #1 initiative in this country.
We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.
Trumpism must be eradicated.
Still waiting on an example of "lefties" being anti-science. Guess I'll keep waiting.
DrLove
Diamond Member
- Thread starter
- #34
Lefties are “anti science”. And love “ alternate facts” guess you’d better go sign up for deprogramming ASAP.I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.
This should be the #1 initiative in this country.
We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.
Trumpism must be eradicated.
Still waiting on an example of "lefties" being anti-science. Guess I'll keep waiting.
Your Covid denial is probably the biggest example right now. That and allowing men into women's sports.
Which COVID denial is that Marv?
Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.
This should be the #1 initiative in this country.
We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.
Trumpism must be eradicated.
This really comes down to ideas. So can we assume you Nazis will have some sort of Thought Police to ensure that proles adhere to good think and are punished for double plus ungood bad think?
DrLove
Diamond Member
- Thread starter
- #36
Schools not opening.Lefties are “anti science”. And love “ alternate facts” guess you’d better go sign up for deprogramming ASAP.I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.
This should be the #1 initiative in this country.
We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.
Trumpism must be eradicated.
Still waiting on an example of "lefties" being anti-science. Guess I'll keep waiting.
I've not seen Biden saying anything other than that we must get all of our kids back in school - Quickly and SAFELY.
Party of that means inoculating teachers and providing funding to give school districts the resources they need.
marvin martian
Diamond Member
Lefties are “anti science”. And love “ alternate facts” guess you’d better go sign up for deprogramming ASAP.I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.
This should be the #1 initiative in this country.
We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.
Trumpism must be eradicated.
Still waiting on an example of "lefties" being anti-science. Guess I'll keep waiting.
Your Covid denial is probably the biggest example right now. That and allowing men into women's sports.
Which :COVID denial is that Marv?
60,000+ of us dead from Covid in three weeks, while China Joe ignores it and orders the media to cover it up. Your president is on track to kill over a million of us with Covid this year alone, and you won't even discuss it.
marvin martian
Diamond Member
Schools not opening.Lefties are “anti science”. And love “ alternate facts” guess you’d better go sign up for deprogramming ASAP.I just spoke to this same thing in another forum.
This should be the #1 initiative in this country.
We will continue to slide backwards in the world with "alternate facts" and anti science fighting progress at every turn.
Trumpism must be eradicated.
Still waiting on an example of "lefties" being anti-science. Guess I'll keep waiting.
I've not seen Biden saying anything other than that we must get all of our kids back in school - Quickly and SAFELY.
Party of that means inoculating teachers and providing funding to give school districts the resources they need.
The CDC already said the teachers don't need to be vaccinated to safely open the schools. But you anti-science flat-earthers still have them closed.
Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
My guess is that the quickest way to deal with this -- and this would be tough enough -- is for each end to hold its own accountable far more aggressively. People and groups like Antifa and Trumpsters gain influence because their own sides make excuses for them, avoid talking about them, spin for them, even attack for them. Obviously that has to end, because all it does is enable more destructive behavior.No, once we rehabilitate extremists (including left wing extremist ideologies such as AntiFa and Anarchists) - we'll have two basic groups remaining: Progressives and Responsible Conservatives. They won't agree on everything within these groups, but that is how you work things out and define parties. There is no place in this country for Q-Kooks, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites or radical militias who disseminate dangerous falsehoods about say - elections. Help is on the way!
Also obviously, the Trumpsters have far more control over the GQP than Antifa has over the Dems. The Trumpsters essentially control their party now. That should be a cautionary tale. The Democrats can't let that happen to them. But it's already beginning.
Perhaps you can set up a program for children to "help" their parents by reporting double plus ungood bad think to the Thought Police?
Seig Heil Mac, you are a model Nazi!
Why involve the government, commie?My guess is that the quickest way to deal with this -- and this would be tough enough -- is for each end to hold its own accountable far more aggressively. People and groups like Antifa and Trumpsters gain influence because their own sides make excuses for them, avoid talking about them, spin for them, even attack for them. Obviously that has to end, because all it does is enable more destructive behavior.No, once we rehabilitate extremists (including left wing extremist ideologies such as AntiFa and Anarchists) - we'll have two basic groups remaining: Progressives and Responsible Conservatives. They won't agree on everything within these groups, but that is how you work things out and define parties. There is no place in this country for Q-Kooks, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites or radical militias who disseminate dangerous falsehoods about say - elections. Help is on the way!
Also obviously, the Trumpsters have far more control over the GQP than Antifa has over the Dems. The Trumpsters essentially control their party now. That should be a cautionary tale. The Democrats can't let that happen to them. But it's already beginning.
Perhaps you can set up a program for children to "help" their parents by reporting double plus ungood bad think to the Thought Police?
Seig Heil Mac, you are a model Nazi!
Why are you so dependent on government, comrade?
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