How to deprogram America's extremists

[Crepitus]

The problem with radicals is they don't realize that's what they are.

Just look at the denial in this thread. These sickos are never going to voluntarily get help.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink? Very true, but we might be able to get through to a small percentage of them with a website, heavy Facebook presence, and 24 hour help line.

Very small percentage.

 

[Crepitus]

The problem with radicals is they don't realize that's what they are.

There is nothing wrong with having “radical” views. I would argue that the problems in our country (and of course others too) are so profound radical solutions are needed.

But a radical critique of society, or a radical movement for change, requires thoughtful and sober understanding of what is worth protecting and what must be changed, and how to achieve lasting victories.

Just look at the pro-Trump lunatics who invaded Congress. Just look at them. That is not the sort of radical movement anybody in their right mind could praise or have confidence in to replace “the Establishment.” Their leader Trump was equally not a leader who could win victories for the common man. He was only a demagogue. A rich pompous narcissistic demagogue with a track record of leaving a trail of chaos and failure in his wake.

As for “deprogramming” .... The corporate Establishment, the liberal elites in media, the warmongering DNC and their talking heads are not able to do this job. Whatever “de-programming” — on all sides — occurs will above all require time and mature thinking. Our elites can’t turn the whole white working class into a new happy stock-owning middle or professional class any more than they can solve crime in our ghettos, or change everybody’s gender.

The Democrats, like the Repubs, contain many spectacularly corrupt and hypocritical elements, and of course support the MIC and most U.S. military adventures abroad. The Democratic politicians are far more rational at the moment, it is true, but then they never followed a maniac like Trump.

The corporate elites generally don’t care what nonsense the plebes think, so long as they are distracted. They just want to be left alone as much as possible to get on with the business of making money.

With the word "radicals" I was referring to folks like muslim extremists and folks on edge of any ideology be they RWNJ militia types planning to execute the governor or LWNJs planning to blow up logging camps or whatever it is they do to make news these days. Not average people who want a realistic change.

I am not an extremist, even though I play one on the internet from time to time.

 

[DrLove]

The problem with radicals is they don't realize that's what they are.

Just look at the denial in this thread. These sickos are never going to voluntarily get help.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink? Very true, but we might be able to get through to a small percentage of them with a website, heavy Facebook presence, and 24 hour help line.

Very small percentage.

I’ll take 7% - Baby steps!

 

[Uncensored2008]

You just became an Ignore Dick.....

Cool, now he can mock your ignorant ass and you won't even know it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

We'd better get to work before we elect another Donald Trump.

It will take an all-out national effort to dismantle the radicalization pipeline that has planted conspiracy theories in the heads of millions of Americans and inspired last month's attack on the Capitol, experts tell Axios.​

​

Two key measures that could make a difference:​

• Keeping extremists out of the institutions where they could do the greatest damage — like the military, police departments and legislatures.
  • Providing help for those who have embraced dangerous ideologies.

​

Online platforms, meanwhile, must be unwavering in their commitment to root out conspiracy theories and lies that undermine faith in democracy, according to experts interviewed by Axios.​

• Radicalization and counterterrorism experts broadly applaud tech companies' efforts, now underway, to remove this material and the accounts that spread it off their platforms, despite heavy blowback from conservatives.
  • Twitter's decision to ban Donald Trump is seen on its own as a major asset in the fight to slow or reverse radicalization.

​

The U.S. needs a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism," Daniel Koehler, director of the German Institute on Radicalization and De-radicalization Studies, told Axios.​

• "The spread of extremist conspiracy theories in the United States is the second most dangerous pandemic the country faces right now," he said. "The damage that's been to the U.S. in terms of community and social cohesion will be immense and will be lasting."
  • The radicalization is happening in a multitude of online spaces and right-wing media channels, pulling people into an alternate reality that posits, among a growing swarm of other false ideas, that the 2020 election was stolen.
  • When it comes to coordinated deradicalization efforts, the U.S. is behind most European countries by 25–30 years, Koehler said.

​

Experts agree serious resources need to be mustered toward providing an offramp for people who have been drawn into extremist ideologies.​

• New federal programs would likely be doomed to fail, experts say, because distrust and hatred of the government is already a core tenet of far-right extremism.
  • Instead, private and public-private programs are more likely to be effective, particularly if they're able to get endorsement and funding from federal and state governments.
  • Those could include anti-extremism counseling programs and support groups; education programs that work with schools to identify risks and signs of incipient radicalization; and rehabilitation organizations that work with the incarcerated and formerly incarcerated.

​

One idea, courtesy of Christian Picciolini, a former neo-Nazi leader who founded the Free Radicals Project, which works to help people leave violent extremist groups: a "single entry point" akin to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline "that people recognize, that people trust, that people understand."​

• Something like a national hotline or online portal could steer people to local resources to help them or loved ones escape the radicalization pipeline, he said.

How to deprogram America's extremists

What a "Marshall Plan against domestic extremism" might look like.

www.axios.com

How to deprogram America's extremists?

Deplatform the America-hating, Marxist professors on our college campuses. Problem solved.

That the Marxists/Fascists are so easy to refute is why they are so dedicated to silencing us.

It's also why we never want to silence them.

Vile thugs like Dr. Derp expose exactly what the Reich is and what they seek.

Encourage them to tell the world what they plan.