How the Parkland teens became villains on the right-wing Internet

[2aguy]

This entire thread and its source,the W Post, using kids as political pawns — again — in order to propagate their Marxist agenda.
SOS

Yo ASSHOLIO - Can't find any OP's of yours lately

So STFU

That was a pathetically weak "Rebuttal".

His point stands. It is the Left that is using these kids, not us.

NO - Therefore STFU!!

Except that, obviously, YES, it is you lefties that are using, and thus abusing these kids, not us cons.


YOU put them forward as spokesmen, to have them take the heat that you can't.


This is on you and yours.

No. It isn't. It's on all of you that pretend to be adults and use this demonstration as an excuse to not have to act like one.

Columbine
Sandy Hook
Roseberg
Red Lake
Stockton
Nickel Mines
Blacksburg
DeKalb
Oakland
Marysville
Rancho Dehama
Parkland
......

And every time...nothing changes.

They have earned the right to be listened to with respect. They aren't burning things down. They aren't rioting. They are acting like ADULTS. Maybe we should as well.

Those are all democrat gun free zones.....the only thing that doesn't change is you asswipes won't allow normal, law abiding people to carry guns there...you only allow child killers to carry guns there.....the one thing that would stop these mass shootings.

Calling innocent people child killers is not acting like an adult....Saying the NRA has any responsibity for any of this is not being an adult...it is being a pawn of the democrat party.....

 

[boedicca]

It is
I am not denying extremists on both sides but I have seen very few calling for a ban on all guns and very many opposing any new regulation whatsoever.

What new regulations do you want? Newsflash: if the goddamn government had done their job that Cruz kid would have never been allowed to purchase a gun. What added regulation would have prevented it? They didn't use the ones on the books

If the government had done it's job, he would have been locked up as a dangerous crazy.

Indeed but they've made it all into the NRA is at fault, ban guns, stop picking on children.....I'm fucking sick of it

Yes. Stop attacking children. We are supposed to be freaking adults here. We didn't lose classmates, at an age where YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED to die! When I was in highschool - I never heard of gun violence. I never knew a kid who died of violence. The only kid I knew who died died of leukemia.

So what is wrong with letting them have their say - that enough is enough? Maybe the NRA should butt out for a while instead of demonizing a bunch of kids. That is what is wrong with this!

! When I was in highschool - I never heard of gun violence

And it was easy to buy, own and carry a gun then.....kids even brought guns to school for hunting and for shooting clubs.....it isn't the gun that is the problem...it is single teenage mothers raising young males without fathers...it has reached the boiling point..

Indeed. mr. boe was mentioning the other day how many kids have rifle racks on their trucks. During deer season, they'd go hunting after school...and none of them ever shot up the school or killed someone.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

What new regulations do you want? Newsflash: if the goddamn government had done their job that Cruz kid would have never been allowed to purchase a gun. What added regulation would have prevented it? They didn't use the ones on the books

If the government had done it's job, he would have been locked up as a dangerous crazy.

Indeed but they've made it all into the NRA is at fault, ban guns, stop picking on children.....I'm fucking sick of it

Yes. Stop attacking children. We are supposed to be freaking adults here. We didn't lose classmates, at an age where YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED to die! When I was in highschool - I never heard of gun violence. I never knew a kid who died of violence. The only kid I knew who died died of leukemia.

So what is wrong with letting them have their say - that enough is enough? Maybe the NRA should butt out for a while instead of demonizing a bunch of kids. That is what is wrong with this!

! When I was in highschool - I never heard of gun violence

And it was easy to buy, own and carry a gun then.....kids even brought guns to school for hunting and for shooting clubs.....it isn't the gun that is the problem...it is single teenage mothers raising young males without fathers...it has reached the boiling point..

We used to have a rifle club at our suburban high school years ago.

I expect the color guard to have to ditch their fake rifles.
Wait a minute; I expect the color guard itself to be abolished because it's deemed nationalist. That would make them racist.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Good grief. That's half the problems - all this fearmongering. No one is "coming for your guns". How many thousands of guns are made? Even if they ban one type, bump stocks and high capacity magazines it won't make a dent in American gun ownership. What hyperbole.

Oh? What about the "we're not settling for breadcrumb" speeches? And what about Leftist icon Justice John Paul Stevens outright calling for the Second being banned?

You idiots screwed the pooch. No fucking chance you take over the House in the coming election.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Guns is only one part of the problem and it can't be addressed as the only solution. As you point out - there are many other factors that need to be looked at. Nothing should be off the table.

Wrong; the UnConstitutional should be off the table.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Those are all democrat gun free zones.....the only thing that doesn't change is you asswipes won't allow normal, law abiding people to carry guns there...you only allow child killers to carry guns there.....the one thing that would stop these mass shootings.

Calling innocent people child killers is not acting like an adult....Saying the NRA has any responsibity for any of this is not being an adult...it is being a pawn of the democrat party.....

Ever wonder why so many of these gun slaughters happen at public schools but never private schools?

 

[rightwinger]

Abortion is legal......supporting it is not a crime

Murdering school children is

Owning a gun is a fundamental right, supporting the right of law abiding citizens to own them is not a crime.

Show me where the NRA advocates murdering school children.

Owning an assault rifle is not

If you mean a semi-automatic rifle, a common rifle technology, then yes, it is.

They have been banned in the past and can be banned again
So can High capacity magazines

That was unconstitutional.

and considering this shooter used a 10 round standard mag, your whole whining about high cap mags just shows you have an already established agenda.

Just because you can’t stop every killing, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to stop any

No civilian has a need for a high capacity magazine

 

[rightwinger]

It's so bad even CNN wants Hogg to tone down the hate-mongering......polls must be turning sour

Hogg does not work for CNN
As a citizen
David Hogg is free to use any rhetoric he wants

 

[iceberg]

How the Parkland teens became villains on the right-wing Internet

Shame on all who have engaged in this:
Less than a week after 17 people died in Parkland, Fla., right-wing provocateur Dinesh D’Souza began taunting some of the teenage survivors of the massacre. “Worst news since their parents told them to get summer jobs,” he tweeted on Feb. 20, commenting on a photo showing Parkland survivors crying as state legislators voted down a bill to ban military-style weapons.


D’Souza wrote another tweet, “Adults, 1, kids 0.” Combined, the two tweets have more than 25,000 likes and 8,000 retweets.


[ A fake photo of Emma González went viral on the far right, where Parkland teens are villains ]


Now, five weeks after the Parkland school shooting, D’Souza’s tweets seem almost quaint. As Emma González, David Hogg and the other Parkland teens fighting for gun control have become viral liberal heroes, the teens are villains on the right-wing Internet and fair game for the mockery and attacks that this group usually reserves for its adult enemies.


That infamy reached a wider audience this past weekend around the time of their March for Our Lives protest, when a doctored image that showed González ripping up a copy of the U.S. Constitution (she actually ripped up a gun target) went mildly viral on the Trump-supporting parts of the Internet, defended as “satire” by those who shared it.


"Here’s a look back at how the Parkland student activists became such a target:


Day 1: Conspiracy theorists


The first to target the Parkland students were the conspiracy theorists. When a mass shooting like Parkland happens, conspiracy theorists begin to search for signs of a false flag — proof that the shooting was actually staged and/or carried out for political reasons — pretty much right away. They’re following what online trolling expert Whitney Phillips calls a “tragedy script”: The establishment is trying to take away your guns, they’ll use mass shootings to do that, and here are the tricks they use to manipulate the public. Anything irregular becomes conspiracy fodder.


[ We studied thousands of anonymous posts about the Parkland attack — and found a conspiracy in the making ]


An anonymous 8chan user told the fringe chat board to look for “crisis actors” just 47 minutes after the shooting happened. And if closed chat rooms and fringey boards such as 8chan, 4chan and some subreddits on Reddit are where conspiracy theorists coordinate, then Twitter is where those conspiracy theories — and the harassment that comes with them — are performed for the public. Within hours, anonymous Twitter users were in the mentions of students tweeting from their classrooms during the shooting, accusing them of being part of the conspiracy:

One Twitter thread, made just after midnight on the night of the attack, claimed to contain “Bombshell” information about Parkland. @Magapill (an account once approvingly retweeted by President Trump) shared a video interview with a student that has become the basis of a debunked Parkland conspiracy theory. The thread was retweeted more than 3,000 times.

All this happened before the Parkland students calling for gun control began their ascent to viral iconography. When they emerged, the campaign to discredit and debunk the Parkland students expanded.

Week 2: #MAGA Internet

“EXPOSED: School Shooting Survivor Turned Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines,” read a headline on Gateway Pundit. The article was one of a handful on far-right publications to emerge after the first weekend following the shooting.

Week 2: #MAGA Internet

“EXPOSED: School Shooting Survivor Turned Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines,” read a headline on Gateway Pundit. The article was one of a handful on far-right publications to emerge after the first weekend following the shooting.

[ Algorithms are one reason a conspiracy theory goes viral. Another reason might be you. ]

Hogg, along with González, had found their voices. In one CNN interview, the pair called for the National Rifle Association to “disband.” That interview was on the Monday after the attack. By Tuesday, an aide to Florida state Rep. Shawn Harrison (R-Tampa) was fired for telling a reporter that Hogg and González were “not students … but actors.” As evidence, the aide sent the reporter one of several YouTube videos promoting that conspiracy theory.

Even a former U.S. congressman, Jack Kingston, joined in on Twitter: “O really? ‘Students’ are planning a nationwide rally? Not left-wing gun control activists using 17yr kids in the wake of a horrible tragedy? #Soros #Resistance #Antifa #DNC”

The conspiracy spread quickly, and the algorithms noticed. Soon, a video claiming that Hogg was an actor was the No. 1 trending video on YouTube.

Week 3: Fights with social media companies

In early March, the conspiracy Internet — and some of its Trump supporters — turned the conspiracy theories surrounding the Parkland students into a crusade against what they saw as censorship on major Silicon Valley platforms.

After a conspiracy video trended on YouTube, the platform cracked down on videos and creators who were promoting the false belief that the Parkland students were hired actors or reading from scripts to promote gun control. Enter Alex Jones.

[ How Alex Jones turned the Parkland shooting into a week-long news cycle about himself ]

Jones’s main YouTube channel has more than 2 million subscribers, and he made several videos about Hogg, such as “David Hogg Can’t Remember His Lines In TV Interview,” in the weeks after the shooting.

After CNN reported that the channel was 2 strikes away from a YouTube ban for violating the platform’s community guidelines, Jones started talking about censorship. He claimed his channel was about to be deleted (it wasn’t); he fundraised to support a fight against his enemies. This blitz became a week-long news cycle that captured the attention of Infowars’ supporters and opponents alike.

March for Our Lives: The memes go mainstream

On the eve of the March for Our Lives, the NRA delivered a message to the Parkland students who organized it: “No one would know your names” if a gunman hadn’t killed 17 people at their school, said a host on NRATV.

The Parkland teens, as they took on such a polarizing issue, were always going to have opponents — including from more conservative Parkland students who also survived the massacre. But the deeply personal, conspiracy-minded attacks targeting Hogg, González and their fellow classmate activists have gone from the conspiracy fringes to a larger audience.

And after the viral image of González ripping up the Constitution, Rep. Steve King’s campaign Facebook page (R-Iowa) shared a mocking meme about her. The post refers to a patch of the Cuban flag on her jacket worn during the march:

“This is how you look when you claim Cuban heritage yet don’t speak Spanish and ignore the fact that your ancestors fled the island when the dictatorship turned Cuba into a prison camp, after removing all weapons from its citizens; hence their right to self defense.”

A day after the hoax targeting González went viral, the conservative blog Redstate published — and then updated — an article that falsely implied Hogg might not have been at school during the shooting at all.

“Something doesn’t add up” about Hogg’s whereabouts during the shooting, the original article claimed, focusing on a clip from an upcoming documentary where the student describes going home, grabbing his camera, and returning to interview students.

“It is not possible for him to have been in class and also have been at home, a three-mile bike ride away from campus,” the article concluded. “One of those stories is a lie. Hogg should explain himself, and quickly.”

But the entire premise of the Redstate article was inaccurate. After publication, Redstate published two “updates” at the top of the story, clarifying that the statements they cited as inconsistent were actually describing two separate events, several hours apart. Hogg was definitely on campus at the time of the shooting, and eventually went home and returned to school that evening to interview his gathered classmates just off campus.

The other side is losing their shit.
It is almost not worth engaging with them anymore, they've gone so far into lala land. They are doing their damnedest to bully these kids into submission; it's embarrassing.

wow. the left would NEVER stoop to such measures, would *cough antifa cough* they?
the left would NEVER talk shit about palins kids or hell, trumps youngest, would they?
the left would NEVER try to bully anyone at all into their views or else...

then we have this angry little nugget:


ostracized means what again? they showed him no compassion cause he was different? maybe this is the real problem these days and guns are a reaction TO this problem.

the only thing truly embarrassing is when people think only 1 side does it. THEN there's really no sense in talking to someone now is there?

 

[iceberg]

Let's see if I've got this right. A complete hack initiates a post consisting of nothing but cut and paste rants and another complete hack talks about the "other side" losing their shit.

Neither has enough awareness to realize that their preoccupation with being mindless little leftist warriors is part of the problem instead of part of the solution.

I'm certainly not being mindless; I've been on gun threads for weeks now and that is where I am forming the opinion that the other side is losing their shit. They are. They are ranting about communism and Mao and overthrowing the government and bullying a bunch of very appropriate teenagers who got up on their hind legs and spoke truth in public. How fucking DARE they, huh, Dog?

the truth? what truth are they speaking?

they don't even know gun terminology and yet they speak the truth?

that's some funny ass shit there. and look at the video above - emma is an example of "losing your shit" so again, let's stop pretending the other side is the only problem out there. you know damn well that's not the case.

 

[Correll]

This entire thread and its source,the W Post, using kids as political pawns — again — in order to propagate their Marxist agenda.
SOS

Yo ASSHOLIO - Can't find any OP's of yours lately

So STFU

That was a pathetically weak "Rebuttal".

His point stands. It is the Left that is using these kids, not us.

NO - Therefore STFU!!

Except that, obviously, YES, it is you lefties that are using, and thus abusing these kids, not us cons.


YOU put them forward as spokesmen, to have them take the heat that you can't.


This is on you and yours.

No. It isn't. It's on all of you that pretend to be adults and use this demonstration as an excuse to not have to act like one.

Columbine
Sandy Hook
Roseberg
Red Lake
Stockton
Nickel Mines
Blacksburg
DeKalb
Oakland
Marysville
Rancho Dehama
Parkland
......

And every time...nothing changes.

They have earned the right to be listened to with respect. They aren't burning things down. They aren't rioting. They are acting like ADULTS. Maybe we should as well.

They have NOT earned any respect.


What they have "earned", by being victims of a tragedy, is to be treated with kindness and understanding.


BUt they have rejected that by attacking people.


THose people have the right to defend themselves.


Being a victim does not give you the right to be an ass, and not be called on it, nor to dictate policy.

 

[rightwinger]

Yo ASSHOLIO - Can't find any OP's of yours lately

So STFU

That was a pathetically weak "Rebuttal".

His point stands. It is the Left that is using these kids, not us.

NO - Therefore STFU!!

Except that, obviously, YES, it is you lefties that are using, and thus abusing these kids, not us cons.


YOU put them forward as spokesmen, to have them take the heat that you can't.


This is on you and yours.

No. It isn't. It's on all of you that pretend to be adults and use this demonstration as an excuse to not have to act like one.

Columbine
Sandy Hook
Roseberg
Red Lake
Stockton
Nickel Mines
Blacksburg
DeKalb
Oakland
Marysville
Rancho Dehama
Parkland
......

And every time...nothing changes.

They have earned the right to be listened to with respect. They aren't burning things down. They aren't rioting. They are acting like ADULTS. Maybe we should as well.

They have NOT earned any respect.


What they have "earned", by being victims of a tragedy, is to be treated with kindness and understanding.


BUt they have rejected that by attacking people.


THose people have the right to defend themselves.


Being a victim does not give you the right to be an ass, and not be called on it, nor to dictate policy.

The kids are victims of gun violence

They are free to advocate stricter gun controls .......just like Ron Reagan did

 

[Correll]

That was a pathetically weak "Rebuttal".

His point stands. It is the Left that is using these kids, not us.

NO - Therefore STFU!!

Except that, obviously, YES, it is you lefties that are using, and thus abusing these kids, not us cons.


YOU put them forward as spokesmen, to have them take the heat that you can't.


This is on you and yours.

No. It isn't. It's on all of you that pretend to be adults and use this demonstration as an excuse to not have to act like one.

Columbine
Sandy Hook
Roseberg
Red Lake
Stockton
Nickel Mines
Blacksburg
DeKalb
Oakland
Marysville
Rancho Dehama
Parkland
......

And every time...nothing changes.

They have earned the right to be listened to with respect. They aren't burning things down. They aren't rioting. They are acting like ADULTS. Maybe we should as well.

They have NOT earned any respect.


What they have "earned", by being victims of a tragedy, is to be treated with kindness and understanding.


BUt they have rejected that by attacking people.


THose people have the right to defend themselves.


Being a victim does not give you the right to be an ass, and not be called on it, nor to dictate policy.

The kids are victims of gun violence

They are free to advocate stricter gun controls .......just like Ron Reagan did

No one is saying that don't have that right.


THus, when you make that argument, you are engaging in a Strawman.


Thus, implicitly admitting that you know I am right, and that you have NOTHING to say to refute my actual argument.


Yet, even though you know that I am right, you hold to your position, that you know it wrong.


WHY DO YOU DO THAT?


I can only imagine that actively pushing policies that you know are harmful to your fellow man, is greatly harming your self image.


When I try to understand, what that must be like, I think, if I were doing what you are doing, that I would be sick with self loathing.


You seem, or at least seemed, like a nice guy. Why are you doing this to yourself?

 

[martybegan]

Keep trying to salvage something from your meltdown, it just makes it even more hilarious.

Snowflake.

you're the only one melting down, loony toon.

now go wipe the spittle off of your keyboard.

Stop being a white knight, can't Fleegle-Floggle defend himself?

ROTF! No defense needed..the only why you can defeat me is with intellect and fact--and you are woefully short of both.

Then why did Jillian feel the need to white knight you?

Poor wibble fleeble need hewlp?

Thank you..best laugh in weeks--please...help me!

I suggest you say that line to a mental health professional.

 

[martybegan]

Owning a gun is a fundamental right, supporting the right of law abiding citizens to own them is not a crime.

Show me where the NRA advocates murdering school children.

Owning an assault rifle is not

If you mean a semi-automatic rifle, a common rifle technology, then yes, it is.

They have been banned in the past and can be banned again
So can High capacity magazines

That was unconstitutional.

and considering this shooter used a 10 round standard mag, your whole whining about high cap mags just shows you have an already established agenda.

Just because you can’t stop every killing, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to stop any

No civilian has a need for a high capacity magazine

Again, you just show that your agenda is your agenda because this shooting had zero to do with high capacity magazines.

10 rounds is not high capacity.

 

[iceberg]

Owning a gun is a fundamental right, supporting the right of law abiding citizens to own them is not a crime.

Show me where the NRA advocates murdering school children.

Owning an assault rifle is not

If you mean a semi-automatic rifle, a common rifle technology, then yes, it is.

They have been banned in the past and can be banned again
So can High capacity magazines

That was unconstitutional.

and considering this shooter used a 10 round standard mag, your whole whining about high cap mags just shows you have an already established agenda.

Just because you can’t stop every killing, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to stop any

No civilian has a need for a high capacity magazine

and no civilian alone has the right to tell others what their needs are.

and the parkland shooter only had a 10 round mag. the ones the left are demanding are the limit IF they allow semi-automatics at all.

you just blither a lot but not even sure of what you blither of.

 

[there4eyeM]

Firearms enthusiasts would better spend their time trying to seduce their opponents with attractive, instructive activities. Constructive, affirmative actions like civilian patrols would gain attention to the proper role of an organized militia. Just stamping their feet and regurgitating the mish-mash semantics of the second amendment isn't charming anyone. In fact, if they want the majority to impose tighter restrictions, they are doing a fine job.

 

[iceberg]

Firearms enthusiasts would better spend their time trying to seduce their opponents with attractive, instructive activities. Constructive, affirmative actions like civilian patrols would gain attention to the proper role of an organized militia. Just stamping their feet and regurgitating the mish-mash semantics of the second amendment isn't charming anyone. In fact, if they want the majority to impose tighter restrictions, they are doing a fine job.

yea, cause look at how the left is coming for our guns.
but not coming for them.
want common sense laws around them
then work to pass legislation to ban them
or "due process is killing us"

is this the charm of which you speak? looks like a whole lot of baby-foot stomping you speak of to me.

when the left stops lying and takes the time to learn about guns so they don't sound like homer simpson explaining trigonometry then i'm sure the right will become far more charming.

 

[Witchit]

 

[Witchit]