How much do extremely wealthy people owe to the society that gave them the chance to prosper so much?

[Cecilie1200]

not sure about you because youre a faceless voice on the internet,, but your views are very evil and need called out when they show their ugly face,,,

Evil is subjective. All any of us can do is use our own sense of right and wrong.

No, evil is not subjective.

Well, not to people who aren't trying to justify their own.

 

[jc456]

not sure about you because youre a faceless voice on the internet,, but your views are very evil and need called out when they show their ugly face,,,

Evil is subjective. All any of us can do is use our own sense of right and wrong.

And you are wrong

 

[jc456]

Because government agents will shoot you if you try.

No, but they will take your shit if you don't pay taxes. If you get violent when they do that they will kill you.

Then why aren’t the evil rich dead?

 

[Cecilie1200]

In other words, they will shoot you if you refuse to comply with their demands.

They will shoot you if you get violent with them while they enforce their rules.

I'm not sure what point you think you've made. You've actually just confirmed that government enforces its power at the point of a gun.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I now you can't. So why should anyone accept your view of the matter?

I guess you'll just have to wonder that while the world changes regardless of your protest.

I just heard, "I don't know or care if I'm right, as long as I get what I want and can claim other people are just as bad as I am!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

you do realize youre proving us right dont you???

Taxes are necessary regardless of who runs the government. You support taxes too.

That's not even a good attempt at dishonest conflation. It's just a tired old parroting of what every other greedy, selfish tyrant-wannabe says. "If you're okay with THESE taxes, you have to like ALL taxes, for ALL reasons!!!"

That's like saying if I'm in favor of capital punishment, I have to also approve of serial killers.

 

[jc456]

Not at all. Just because you are unable to identify evil when you see it, that doesn't mean nobody can.

I can identify what I think is evil. That's all you can do too.

Wrong, idiot. Evil can be demonstrated with logic.

Evil can be identified with logic, However, evil is not logical

 

[Cecilie1200]

No, I don't have to sit back and watch

That is exactly what you'll do.

You continue to reveal to everyone except yourself why it is that you're the last person who should be trying to convince us that you and your views aren't evil.

 

[Anomalism]

Is it? Nothing about your posts indicate that you see it that way.

I'm not arrogant enough to think my way is the only way to see things.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Wrong, idiot. Evil can be demonstrated with logic.

Ethics is subjective too. All of these ideas were invented by us. There is no universal truth.

See my last post. "There's no such thing as good or evil or truth" is the last defense of an evil monster. And has been, many times in history.

 

[Cecilie1200]

No they aren't.

You reveal the simplicity of your perspective when you say things like that.

You reveal the undeserved arrogance of yours when you say . . . well, anything.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Hmmmm, yeah, and that time may come sooner than you believe as a result of this election.

The most lunatics on the right will be able to accomplish is terrorism.

Have you noticed that you spend a lot of time echoing tyrants, dictators, and serial killers? What's up with that?

 

[Anomalism]

See my last post. "There's no such thing as good or evil or truth" is the last defense of an evil monster. And has been, many times in history.

I believe in all of those things. I also think you're arrogant if you think you're the arbiter of those things.

 

[Orangecat]

You probably think that about everybody that disagrees with you.

Incorrect. Tbh, you don't appear to have the depth of life experience to interest me with the opinions you've been spoon-fed by whoever "educated" you. Not an insult, just the reality of being in your first year of legal adulthood.

 

[Slade3200]

I dont think people should be punished because they are more successful. IE much higher tax burden. They already pay most of the taxes anyway.
They also give a lot of money and time, to charity.

They'll still be the richest Americans if they are taxed more. They live in goofy amounts of excess that's only possible because the U.S kicks ass.

Sure but that doesnt mean they should be punished.
A person making 163,301 pays 8% more in taxes than someone that made 163,300. Thats bullshit.
A person that makes half a million, pays almost 40 of their income to the federal govt. Thats almost HALF. Half of the fruit of their labor and hard work, only to be stolen from an entity that will give it away to foreigners and use it to kill a bunch of innocent desert dwellers.

Shouldn’t they pay 8% more on that 1 dollar and not on the total sum?

 

[Orangecat]

I think I'm doing great. Thanks for your concern.

Don't mistake my observation for concern.

 

[Anomalism]

You reveal the undeserved arrogance of yours when you say . . . well, anything.

You think I'm wrong about him?

 

[Anomalism]

Don't mistake my observation for concern.

Nyah!

 

[Anomalism]

Incorrect. Tbh, you don't appear to have the depth of life experience to interest me with the opinions you've been spoon-fed by whoever "educated" you. Not an insult, just the reality of being in your first year of legal adulthood.

Who are the left wing posters here that are better than me? I'd love to have some conversations with those people. Most of them seem like brainless DNC drones with bumper sticker opinions.

 

[TNHarley]

I dont think people should be punished because they are more successful. IE much higher tax burden. They already pay most of the taxes anyway.
They also give a lot of money and time, to charity.

They'll still be the richest Americans if they are taxed more. They live in goofy amounts of excess that's only possible because the U.S kicks ass.

Sure but that doesnt mean they should be punished.
A person making 163,301 pays 8% more in taxes than someone that made 163,300. Thats bullshit.
A person that makes half a million, pays almost 40 of their income to the federal govt. Thats almost HALF. Half of the fruit of their labor and hard work, only to be stolen from an entity that will give it away to foreigners and use it to kill a bunch of innocent desert dwellers.

Shouldn’t they pay 8% more on that 1 dollar and not on the total sum?

32% on that one dollar.

Tax rate	Taxable income bracket	Tax owed
10%	$0 to $9,875	10% of taxable income
12%	$9,876 to $40,125	$987.50 plus 12% of the amount over $9,875
22%	$40,126 to $85,525	$4,617.50 plus 22% of the amount over $40,125
24%	$85,526 to $163,300	$14,605.50 plus 24% of the amount over $85,525
32%	$163,301 to $207,350	$33,271.50 plus 32% of the amount over $163,300
35%	$207,351 to $518,400	$47,367.50 plus 35% of the amount over $207,350
37%	$518,401 or more	$156,235 plus 37% of the amount over $518,400