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Not at all.
But that's only an unprovable opinion, since we can't roll back the clock, change the election result and compare.
Just hit the etch-a-sketch reset!
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Not at all.
But that's only an unprovable opinion, since we can't roll back the clock, change the election result and compare.
I know it's only a year into it, but that's plenty of time to get some policies in place and maybe other policies wouldn't have been enacted.
Using real data and Romney's plans to make your point, can someone please tell me how much better off the US would be at this very moment had Romney won the election?
Honestly, it wouldn't even matter. Democracy in this country and the two-party system are a facade created to give the illusion that the people have a say. Considering that Congress has been bought and paid for by corporations and banking cartels to pass private legislation to protects their interests, your question is irrelevant.
That hackneyed old nonsense is pointless, whiny bullshit. Get some new material.
If Romney had been elected in 2008, we would have been worlds better. He would have overseen a robust recovery. Can blame Huckabee's supporters for hating Romney so much that they would help the least conservative candidate win the nomination when they saw Huckabee couldn't do it.
I don't know how much better we might be if he had won in 2012. Obama had already done so much damage, Romney would have had to be careful not to make things worse. It would have been tricky no matter what. But Obamacare could have been quickly stopped by executive order if Romney was willing to follow Obama's example and disregard what the law actually said. And without all those disincentives to full employment, there would likely have been at least slightly faster improvement on the employment front.
The DOW hovers around 1600 and no one I know with a 20+ year old 401K plan is complaining.
Yeah, the people with secure jobs aren't complaining.
Imagine that.
Honestly, it wouldn't even matter. Democracy in this country and the two-party system are a facade created to give the illusion that the people have a say. Considering that Congress has been bought and paid for by corporations and banking cartels to pass private legislation to protects their interests, your question is irrelevant.
That hackneyed old nonsense is pointless, whiny bullshit. Get some new material.
Doesn't make it any less true. Sorry I don't adopt bullshit pseudo-intellectual viewpoints about how much better the right boot feels in my ass than the left one. Wake the fuck up asshole.
That hackneyed old nonsense is pointless, whiny bullshit. Get some new material.
Doesn't make it any less true. Sorry I don't adopt bullshit pseudo-intellectual viewpoints about how much better the right boot feels in my ass than the left one. Wake the fuck up asshole.
Democrats are better. Check their record for the last 80 years. They'll try to help a guy when he's down. A republican will kick you when you're down just because your down. Just read their posts on this forum. They defend the rich and chastise the poor. Always and without fail. Food stamps, unemployment, nutrition programs for low income kids in school are a help when your down. Don't make no difference. Republicans hate these programs with a vengeance and will always try to end them but of course they will quote the constitution or the budget or the founding fathers first.
If Obama had told the truth about Obamacare, which means Romney would have won, we would be much better off! All of Obama's EOs many of them unconstitutional would not have been created.
Our jobs improvement would be better, and our credit rating would be better. More jobs equals more taxes and less welfare and food stamps.
Obamacare would be repealed especially if the Senate had flipped.
If Obama had told the truth about Obamacare, which means Romney would have won, we would be much better off! All of Obama's EOs many of them unconstitutional would not have been created.
Our jobs improvement would be better, and our credit rating would be better. More jobs equals more taxes and less welfare and food stamps.
Obamacare would be repealed especially if the Senate had flipped.
So you agree with Romney that GW's economic policies were wrong?
If Obama had told the truth about Obamacare, which means Romney would have won, we would be much better off! All of Obama's EOs many of them unconstitutional would not have been created.
Our jobs improvement would be better, and our credit rating would be better. More jobs equals more taxes and less welfare and food stamps.
Obamacare would be repealed especially if the Senate had flipped.
So you agree with Romney that GW's economic policies were wrong?
I know it's only a year into it, but that's plenty of time to get some policies in place and maybe other policies wouldn't have been enacted.
Using real data and Romney's plans to make your point, can someone please tell me how much better off the US would be at this very moment had Romney won the election?
I know it's only a year into it, but that's plenty of time to get some policies in place and maybe other policies wouldn't have been enacted.
Using real data and Romney's plans to make your point, can someone please tell me how much better off the US would be at this very moment had Romney won the election?
If Romney had been elected in 2008, we would have been worlds better. He would have overseen a robust recovery. Can blame Huckabee's supporters for hating Romney so much that they would help the least conservative candidate win the nomination when they saw Huckabee couldn't do it.
I don't know how much better we might be if he had won in 2012. Obama had already done so much damage, Romney would have had to be careful not to make things worse. It would have been tricky no matter what. But Obamacare could have been quickly stopped by executive order if Romney was willing to follow Obama's example and disregard what the law actually said. And without all those disincentives to full employment, there would likely have been at least slightly faster improvement on the employment front.
Honestly, it wouldn't even matter. Democracy in this country and the two-party system are a facade created to give the illusion that the people have a say. Considering that Congress has been bought and paid for by corporations and banking cartels to pass private legislation to protects their interests, your question is irrelevant.
That hackneyed old nonsense is pointless, whiny bullshit. Get some new material.
Even though both parties continuously invite Wall Street CEOs to run the government?
There obviously has to be SOME ideology involved.
I know it's only a year into it, but that's plenty of time to get some policies in place and maybe other policies wouldn't have been enacted.
Using real data and Romney's plans to make your point, can someone please tell me how much better off the US would be at this very moment had Romney won the election?
If Romney had been elected in 2008, we would have been worlds better. He would have overseen a robust recovery. Can blame Huckabee's supporters for hating Romney so much that they would help the least conservative candidate win the nomination when they saw Huckabee couldn't do it.
I don't know how much better we might be if he had won in 2012. Obama had already done so much damage, Romney would have had to be careful not to make things worse. It would have been tricky no matter what. But Obamacare could have been quickly stopped by executive order if Romney was willing to follow Obama's example and disregard what the law actually said. And without all those disincentives to full employment, there would likely have been at least slightly faster improvement on the employment front.
A robust recovery based on what? Republican dreams?
Really, where does this come from? I thought the government did not create jobs. Are you now telling me that a Romney one would?
Look, I understand the sentiment that Obama is getting in the way but the reality here is that our economy is experiencing some fundamental flaws and Romney’s policies were not so different from Obama that we would have seen a stagnated mess suddenly explode into a great recovery. What exactly do you think would be driving the excellent recovery?
I know it's only a year into it, but that's plenty of time to get some policies in place and maybe other policies wouldn't have been enacted.
Using real data and Romney's plans to make your point, can someone please tell me how much better off the US would be at this very moment had Romney won the election?
If Romney had been elected in 2008, we would have been worlds better. He would have overseen a robust recovery. Can blame Huckabee's supporters for hating Romney so much that they would help the least conservative candidate win the nomination when they saw Huckabee couldn't do it.
I don't know how much better we might be if he had won in 2012. Obama had already done so much damage, Romney would have had to be careful not to make things worse. It would have been tricky no matter what. But Obamacare could have been quickly stopped by executive order if Romney was willing to follow Obama's example and disregard what the law actually said. And without all those disincentives to full employment, there would likely have been at least slightly faster improvement on the employment front.
Obama may be the greatest wealth creator ever!I know it's only a year into it, but that's plenty of time to get some policies in place and maybe other policies wouldn't have been enacted.
Using real data and Romney's plans to make your point, can someone please tell me how much better off the US would be at this very moment had Romney won the election?
If Romney had been elected in 2008, we would have been worlds better. He would have overseen a robust recovery. Can blame Huckabee's supporters for hating Romney so much that they would help the least conservative candidate win the nomination when they saw Huckabee couldn't do it.
I don't know how much better we might be if he had won in 2012. Obama had already done so much damage, Romney would have had to be careful not to make things worse. It would have been tricky no matter what. But Obamacare could have been quickly stopped by executive order if Romney was willing to follow Obama's example and disregard what the law actually said. And without all those disincentives to full employment, there would likely have been at least slightly faster improvement on the employment front.
The DOW hovers around 1600 and no one I know with a 20+ year old 401K plan is complaining.
Right-Wingers say: do your job exceptionally and your job will be secure. If your job isn't secure, it's YOUR fault. Then something about laziness....I forget....If Romney had been elected in 2008, we would have been worlds better. He would have overseen a robust recovery. Can blame Huckabee's supporters for hating Romney so much that they would help the least conservative candidate win the nomination when they saw Huckabee couldn't do it.
I don't know how much better we might be if he had won in 2012. Obama had already done so much damage, Romney would have had to be careful not to make things worse. It would have been tricky no matter what. But Obamacare could have been quickly stopped by executive order if Romney was willing to follow Obama's example and disregard what the law actually said. And without all those disincentives to full employment, there would likely have been at least slightly faster improvement on the employment front.
The DOW hovers around 1600 and no one I know with a 20+ year old 401K plan is complaining.
Yeah, the people with secure jobs aren't complaining.
Imagine that.
Have you lost your insurance?I will assert here that both men were/are different sides of the same coin. So, we would not be any better off under Romney than Obama, with one exception--people would still have their healthcare insurance.
I know it's only a year into it, but that's plenty of time to get some policies in place and maybe other policies wouldn't have been enacted.
Using real data and Romney's plans to make your point, can someone please tell me how much better off the US would be at this very moment had Romney won the election?