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Hardly. The Spitfire was just entering production. The Hurricane had been in production for barely a year. Most of the RAF’s 25 squadrons were equipped with biplanes.It seems they were a match in 1940. The RAF was anyway.
The speed with which the history of the Second World War and pre-war Europe is being rewritten is sometimes simply surprising. It seems that the task has been set to do this as quickly as possible, and all the forces have been thrown at it.
Including cinema. Recently, the film "Munich. On the verge of war." In general, a good feature film about one of the key events that led the world to the most terrible war in the history of mankind. A movie with a claim to historical truth. In general, the process of concluding a "deal" is shown quite well and, probably, even relatively truthfully. But…
What do we know about the Munich conspiracy? First of all, the fact that this is the very event that is hardly worth romanticizing. Because it's a disgrace and a betrayal. They say it was an attempt to appease Hitler, but it's hard for me to call it true. At that time, there were other, much more effective ways to appease the Third Reich, which had not yet gained strength. Germany at the time of the Munich Agreement and Germany during the invasion of Poland were very different in strength. In principle, the subject of the "Munich agreement", the Sudetenland of the Czech Republic, and then the anschluss of the whole country became the very element that raised the industrial power of Germany to the necessary height. In addition, the Munich agreement opened the gates to Hitler to the east. And even though Poland participated in the partition of the Czech Republic, having "bitten off" the Tesin region from it, the fate of Poland was also predetermined. Poles might think that they were very close friends and allies of Hitler and that together they were about to pounce on the Soviet Union and tear it apart, but Poland itself was already an aperitif on Adolf Hitler's menu.
France and Great Britain in 1938 had enough strength to solve the problem of Nazi Germany, radically and quickly put an end to Adolf Hitler. Moreover, they could do this by fulfilling their allied obligations during the German invasion of Poland. These two countries were still much stronger than Germany militarily. But the problem is that no one was going to appease Hitler. And the fact that Germany "devoured" Poland, too, did not particularly surprise anyone. For one reason - after Poland, Germany had to attack the USSR, and that suited everyone. Absolutely all the facts point to this: first of all, when the USSR wanted to save the Czech Republic from death in the jaws of a Nazi monster, it was simply not allowed to do so.
The Western powers miscalculated only in one thing —they thought that the monster would be satisfied with the Czech Republic and Poland, (which they "had to protect", but they did not), and would attack the USSR, but before that, Hitler very easily, playfully "cheated" France and created a very big threat to Great Britain. This was not part of the plans of Western politician!.
In general, it is clear that there is a Munich conspiracy — a shameful stain in the history of Western countries, something that unleashed Hitler's hands and pushed him to the beginning of World War II. And now you can convince everyone as much as you want, that the notorious Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is to blame for everything, but for those, who know history, it sounds completely unconvincing.
Let's go back to the Netflix movie. At the end of a fairly good movie there is a brief information in text — just a few sentences. And that's exactly what it is, the main one. I quote:
"The peace between Britain and Germany lasted only a year. Unable to withstand criticism, Neville Chamberlain resigned and died a couple of months later.
During the time won by the Munich Agreement, Britain and its allies managed to prepare for war, thanks to which Germany was defeated."
Read it and think about it. This is exactly what is the key message, what will remain in the head of the Western man in the street, who has watched this film. And there is no place for the USSR and for the Great Patriotic War, in which the Red Army broke the back of the nazi monster. This is an insignificant episode, perhaps the very time during which Great Britain and its allies "managed to prepare for war, thanks to which Germany was defeated." Maybe a movie will be made about this. After all, the term "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact" also needs to be revealed to the Western layman correctly, so that there is no doubt, who exactly is to blame for the outbreak of the Second World War. And what kind of battles are these for Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk and the capture of Berlin? They have no place in the history, that is being written right now.
Yes, I understand that the Western powers after the war were very uncomfortable with the fact that the USSR saved the whole world from the nazi plague. But then absolutely everyone in the world understood and knew it, so they have to live with this, although history began to be rewritten literally immediately. But there was still some traces of conscience. And now all the brakes are removed. The task is to try to erase the USSR from the history of the Victory over nazism, and ideally - to present it as evil.
And all this, of course, with an eye on modern Russia.
These modern pussies couldn't handle out right war. The US lost just a fraction of what it incurred in a decade of fighting in Europe, like it was the "end of tbe world". Wait till fuckers get serious. Count your losses then. Modern soy- boys ain't seen warfare outside their gaming consoles...The speed with which the history of the Second World War and pre-war Europe is being rewritten is sometimes simply surprising. It seems that the task has been set to do this as quickly as possible, and all the forces have been thrown at it.
Including cinema. Recently, the film "Munich. On the verge of war." In general, a good feature film about one of the key events that led the world to the most terrible war in the history of mankind. A movie with a claim to historical truth. In general, the process of concluding a "deal" is shown quite well and, probably, even relatively truthfully. But…
What do we know about the Munich conspiracy? First of all, the fact that this is the very event that is hardly worth romanticizing. Because it's a disgrace and a betrayal. They say it was an attempt to appease Hitler, but it's hard for me to call it true. At that time, there were other, much more effective ways to appease the Third Reich, which had not yet gained strength. Germany at the time of the Munich Agreement and Germany during the invasion of Poland were very different in strength. In principle, the subject of the "Munich agreement", the Sudetenland of the Czech Republic, and then the anschluss of the whole country became the very element that raised the industrial power of Germany to the necessary height. In addition, the Munich agreement opened the gates to Hitler to the east. And even though Poland participated in the partition of the Czech Republic, having "bitten off" the Tesin region from it, the fate of Poland was also predetermined. Poles might think that they were very close friends and allies of Hitler and that together they were about to pounce on the Soviet Union and tear it apart, but Poland itself was already an aperitif on Adolf Hitler's menu.
France and Great Britain in 1938 had enough strength to solve the problem of Nazi Germany, radically and quickly put an end to Adolf Hitler. Moreover, they could do this by fulfilling their allied obligations during the German invasion of Poland. These two countries were still much stronger than Germany militarily. But the problem is that no one was going to appease Hitler. And the fact that Germany "devoured" Poland, too, did not particularly surprise anyone. For one reason - after Poland, Germany had to attack the USSR, and that suited everyone. Absolutely all the facts point to this: first of all, when the USSR wanted to save the Czech Republic from death in the jaws of a Nazi monster, it was simply not allowed to do so.
The Western powers miscalculated only in one thing —they thought that the monster would be satisfied with the Czech Republic and Poland, (which they "had to protect", but they did not), and would attack the USSR, but before that, Hitler very easily, playfully "cheated" France and created a very big threat to Great Britain. This was not part of the plans of Western politician!.
In general, it is clear that there is a Munich conspiracy — a shameful stain in the history of Western countries, something that unleashed Hitler's hands and pushed him to the beginning of World War II. And now you can convince everyone as much as you want, that the notorious Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is to blame for everything, but for those, who know history, it sounds completely unconvincing.
Let's go back to the Netflix movie. At the end of a fairly good movie there is a brief information in text — just a few sentences. And that's exactly what it is, the main one. I quote:
"The peace between Britain and Germany lasted only a year. Unable to withstand criticism, Neville Chamberlain resigned and died a couple of months later.
During the time won by the Munich Agreement, Britain and its allies managed to prepare for war, thanks to which Germany was defeated."
Read it and think about it. This is exactly what is the key message, what will remain in the head of the Western man in the street, who has watched this film. And there is no place for the USSR and for the Great Patriotic War, in which the Red Army broke the back of the nazi monster. This is an insignificant episode, perhaps the very time during which Great Britain and its allies "managed to prepare for war, thanks to which Germany was defeated." Maybe a movie will be made about this. After all, the term "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact" also needs to be revealed to the Western layman correctly, so that there is no doubt, who exactly is to blame for the outbreak of the Second World War. And what kind of battles are these for Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk and the capture of Berlin? They have no place in the history, that is being written right now.
Yes, I understand that the Western powers after the war were very uncomfortable with the fact that the USSR saved the whole world from the nazi plague. But then absolutely everyone in the world understood and knew it, so they have to live with this, although history began to be rewritten literally immediately. But there was still some traces of conscience. And now all the brakes are removed. The task is to try to erase the USSR from the history of the Victory over nazism, and ideally - to present it as evil.
And all this, of course, with an eye on modern Russia.
It was? Throughout the thirties the USSR was assisting Germany in violating the terms of the Versailles treaty by among other things allowing the Wehrmacht to use Russian soil to develop panzers and panzer tactics. The USSR was providing Germany with the sinews of war to build the German war machine. The USSR was selling and trading Germany war supplies and food it couldn't get anywhere else. The USSR joined Germany in the invasion and dismemberment of Poland in time of peace and without a declaration of war by either Germany or the USSR. Based upon the USSR's conduct, it looks far likelier to support and perhaps even join Nazi Germany in a war against France and the UK.Are you specifically not mentioning France? And the USSR was ready to support efforts against Hitler at any time.
Hitler was Stalin's ally.Are you specifically not mentioning France? And the USSR was ready to support efforts against Hitler at any time.
France had demilitarized also. Long shot maybe if everyone united when he took the Rhineland. But keep in mind nobody has the stomach for it. Kind of like if Joe started a war in the Middle East today. No matter how just, a shitstorm backlash would occur.Are you specifically not mentioning France? And the USSR was ready to support efforts against Hitler at any time.
Conservation Is Hoarding in Order to Create Higher Profits From Artificial ScarcitiesOrwell intended 1984 as a cautionary tale, but by the looks of the world today, many see it as an operating manual, instead.
Started to watch it but saw the fiction quickly and stopped. Other fictional movie was the Imitation Game about the Enigma machine. Only thing factual was Turing really existed and he was a homo but it had zero bearing on his work.The speed with which the history of the Second World War and pre-war Europe is being rewritten is sometimes simply surprising. It seems that the task has been set to do this as quickly as possible, and all the forces have been thrown at it.
Including cinema. Recently, the film "Munich. On the verge of war." In general, a good feature film about one of the key events that led the world to the most terrible war in the history of mankind. A movie with a claim to historical truth. In general, the process of concluding a "deal" is shown quite well and, probably, even relatively truthfully. But…
What do we know about the Munich conspiracy? First of all, the fact that this is the very event that is hardly worth romanticizing. Because it's a disgrace and a betrayal. They say it was an attempt to appease Hitler, but it's hard for me to call it true. At that time, there were other, much more effective ways to appease the Third Reich, which had not yet gained strength. Germany at the time of the Munich Agreement and Germany during the invasion of Poland were very different in strength. In principle, the subject of the "Munich agreement", the Sudetenland of the Czech Republic, and then the anschluss of the whole country became the very element that raised the industrial power of Germany to the necessary height. In addition, the Munich agreement opened the gates to Hitler to the east. And even though Poland participated in the partition of the Czech Republic, having "bitten off" the Tesin region from it, the fate of Poland was also predetermined. Poles might think that they were very close friends and allies of Hitler and that together they were about to pounce on the Soviet Union and tear it apart, but Poland itself was already an aperitif on Adolf Hitler's menu.
France and Great Britain in 1938 had enough strength to solve the problem of Nazi Germany, radically and quickly put an end to Adolf Hitler. Moreover, they could do this by fulfilling their allied obligations during the German invasion of Poland. These two countries were still much stronger than Germany militarily. But the problem is that no one was going to appease Hitler. And the fact that Germany "devoured" Poland, too, did not particularly surprise anyone. For one reason - after Poland, Germany had to attack the USSR, and that suited everyone. Absolutely all the facts point to this: first of all, when the USSR wanted to save the Czech Republic from death in the jaws of a Nazi monster, it was simply not allowed to do so.
The Western powers miscalculated only in one thing —they thought that the monster would be satisfied with the Czech Republic and Poland, (which they "had to protect", but they did not), and would attack the USSR, but before that, Hitler very easily, playfully "cheated" France and created a very big threat to Great Britain. This was not part of the plans of Western politician!.
In general, it is clear that there is a Munich conspiracy — a shameful stain in the history of Western countries, something that unleashed Hitler's hands and pushed him to the beginning of World War II. And now you can convince everyone as much as you want, that the notorious Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is to blame for everything, but for those, who know history, it sounds completely unconvincing.
Let's go back to the Netflix movie. At the end of a fairly good movie there is a brief information in text — just a few sentences. And that's exactly what it is, the main one. I quote:
"The peace between Britain and Germany lasted only a year. Unable to withstand criticism, Neville Chamberlain resigned and died a couple of months later.
During the time won by the Munich Agreement, Britain and its allies managed to prepare for war, thanks to which Germany was defeated."
Read it and think about it. This is exactly what is the key message, what will remain in the head of the Western man in the street, who has watched this film. And there is no place for the USSR and for the Great Patriotic War, in which the Red Army broke the back of the nazi monster. This is an insignificant episode, perhaps the very time during which Great Britain and its allies "managed to prepare for war, thanks to which Germany was defeated." Maybe a movie will be made about this. After all, the term "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact" also needs to be revealed to the Western layman correctly, so that there is no doubt, who exactly is to blame for the outbreak of the Second World War. And what kind of battles are these for Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk and the capture of Berlin? They have no place in the history, that is being written right now.
Yes, I understand that the Western powers after the war were very uncomfortable with the fact that the USSR saved the whole world from the nazi plague. But then absolutely everyone in the world understood and knew it, so they have to live with this, although history began to be rewritten literally immediately. But there was still some traces of conscience. And now all the brakes are removed. The task is to try to erase the USSR from the history of the Victory over nazism, and ideally - to present it as evil.
And all this, of course, with an eye on modern Russia.
Germans didn’t react quickly after Normandy. Took Hitler 6 weeks to figure out Patton and his ghost army of inflatable tanks wasn’t going to land at Calais and Normandy wasn’t a decoy. What slowed us down was the hedgerows. Perfect defensive fortresses every few hundred yards. Nobody planned for it, all planning focused on taking control of the beaches.The victors write the history books and they don't have to be accurate, just positive. We learned that we fooled the Germans at Normandy but nobody elaborated about the fact that the Germans quickly reacted and the "Breakout" took months and thousands of lives. We learned about the heroic actions at the Battle of the Bulge when General McAuliffe told the German commander "nuts" when he was surrounded but the fact that Ike was making the rounds of Christmas parties and the Battle of the Bulge was the worst intelligence failure in history didn't get much attention. On the other front we learned that MacArthur led a triumphant return to the Philippines but pop historians didn't tell us about his defeat at Bataan and Corrigador and how he abandoned his troops (under orders) and left Gen. Wainwright holding the bag.
The 6 weeks is B.S. propaganda. It took the Allies and a million men and two months to break out of the Normandy landing. Ike said it best that he would use as many men as it would take. The Allies had more men to sacrifice than the Germans had and that's how we won the freaking war.Germans didn’t react quickly after Normandy. Took Hitler 6 weeks to figure out Patton and his ghost army of inflatable tanks wasn’t going to land at Calais and Normandy wasn’t a decoy. What slowed us down was the hedgerows. Perfect defensive fortresses every few hundred yards. Nobody planned for it, all planning focused on taking control of the beaches.
Historical fact. Hitler kept Calais occupied for 6 weeks expecting Patton to land there with his ghost army. Hedgerows prevented rapid movement inland. A few hundred Germans were stopping entire Allied divisions with the use of the hedgerows.The 6 weeks is B.S. propaganda. It took the Allies and a million men and two months to break out of the Normandy landing. Ike said it best that he would use as many men as it would take. The Allies had more men to sacrifice than the Germans had and that's how we won the freaking war.
Something ain't historically right when a million men couldn't get through the German defenses at Normandy when (according to legend) the actual German defenses were tied up at Calais. Why in the world would Ike wait two months until the Germans were fully in the defensive mode, to launch a breakout? Bad intelligence or bogus history?Historical fact. Hitler kept Calais occupied for 6 weeks expecting Patton to land there with his ghost army. Hedgerows prevented rapid movement inland. A few hundred Germans were stopping entire Allied divisions with the use of the hedgerows.
Wasn’t until Operation Cobra in August when a massive offense broke thru the German line so we could begin moving.
You need to see the hedgerows. Every farm plot lined with vegetation so think tanks couldn’t move thru them until some soldier devised a special plow.Something ain't historically right when a million men couldn't get through the German defenses at Normandy when (according to legend) the actual German defenses were tied up at Calais. Why in the world would Ike wait two months until the Germans were fully in the defensive mode, to launch a breakout? Bad intelligence or bogus history?
Hitler was Stalin's ally.
