How many would like Obama to ignore Congress?

[peach174]

What I'd like him to do is use his bully pulpit more, railing against the true "do nothing" Congress. I'd like to see a wave of anti, anti-government sentiment wash the teabaggers out of the government they hate.

Once again the far left shows that they will ignore their own Harry Reid as he tables so many things coming from the house in the standard far left tantrums.

Bills that the House knows has no chance of passing. Do you know what the Hastert rule is? Go look it up.

The Hastert rule is for the House not the Senate.
Reid is using the nuclear option not the Hastert rule.

 

[Lakhota]

Regarding the 2014 elections, I expect Republicans will likely retain control of the House, but I remain hopeful that Democrats will retain control of the Senate. Otherwise, it will be two totally wasted years of pure chaos and gridlock.

We have chaos and gridlock right now

Expect Obama to continue using Executive Orders

Yes, we do. However, just imagine if the rightwing morons were also in control of the Senate. I do expect Obama to continue using Executive Orders.

 

[S.J.]

It's pretty clear, by this thread AND the conduct of the left in general, that they are in favor of a communist style dictatorship. They think that because the Republicans have been able to stop their assault on the rule of law and the Constitution they have a green light to impose their will on the rest of us. Big mistake. The Republican Party is not the only option we the people have.

 

[rightwinger]

It's pretty clear, by this thread AND the conduct of the left in general, that they are in favor of a communist style dictatorship. They think that because the Republicans have been able to stop their assault on the rule of law and the Constitution they have a green light to impose their will on the rest of us. Big mistake. The Republican Party is not the only option we the people have.

******* Commies

 

[Sallow]

What is it with progressives these days? You basically want a King/Dictator.....

You are nothing but a bunch of anti-constitutional assholes.

No, actually, I would like a functioning government
Republicans have done everything in their power to stop that

The government functions just fine. Taxes get collected, the Military still runs, SS pays their checks. What you want is laws you like passed, and guess what? You don't have the House, so kindly go pound sand.

Yeah Marty..

I am sure you were saying the exact same thing When Ronald Reagan and George HW Bush were putting out EOs.

And Baby Bush not only put out EOs, but put out signing statements stating he was not bound to follow any laws that congress passed.

Yes sir indeedy.

 

[westwall]

It's pretty clear, by this thread AND the conduct of the left in general, that they are in favor of a communist style dictatorship. They think that because the Republicans have been able to stop their assault on the rule of law and the Constitution they have a green light to impose their will on the rest of us. Big mistake. The Republican Party is not the only option we the people have.

******* Commies

He has a point though...doesn't he. Let's take your responses for instance. You would accept a certain level of dictatorship to "keep the government going". You believe that a form of dictatorship is preferable to a Weimar style, or Duma like incompetent government.

JoeB131 unsurprisingly called for a dictator and a few others of the progressives also tacitly support a modified form of dictatorship....you know where the appearance of democracy is maintained but for all intents and purposes a single individual runs the country.

Just be advised, eventually a tyrant takes power who has no use for drones, and they are sent to the gulags too. That's why it is best to pay attention to what you wish for....because you just might get it.

 

[rightwinger]

It's pretty clear, by this thread AND the conduct of the left in general, that they are in favor of a communist style dictatorship. They think that because the Republicans have been able to stop their assault on the rule of law and the Constitution they have a green light to impose their will on the rest of us. Big mistake. The Republican Party is not the only option we the people have.

******* Commies

He has a point though...doesn't he. Let's take your responses for instance. You would accept a certain level of dictatorship to "keep the government going". You believe that a form of dictatorship is preferable to a Weimar style, or Duma like incompetent government.

JoeB131 unsurprisingly called for a dictator and a few others of the progressives also tacitly support a modified form of dictatorship....you know where the appearance of democracy is maintained but for all intents and purposes a single individual runs the country.

Just be advised, eventually a tyrant takes power who has no use for drones, and they are sent to the gulags too. That's why it is best to pay attention to what you wish for....because you just might get it.

Wow...you are really good at telling others what they believe

I think it is part of a strawman argument

 

[Sallow]

It's pretty clear, by this thread AND the conduct of the left in general, that they are in favor of a communist style dictatorship. They think that because the Republicans have been able to stop their assault on the rule of law and the Constitution they have a green light to impose their will on the rest of us. Big mistake. The Republican Party is not the only option we the people have.

******* Commies

He has a point though...doesn't he. Let's take your responses for instance. You would accept a certain level of dictatorship to "keep the government going". You believe that a form of dictatorship is preferable to a Weimar style, or Duma like incompetent government.

JoeB131 unsurprisingly called for a dictator and a few others of the progressives also tacitly support a modified form of dictatorship....you know where the appearance of democracy is maintained but for all intents and purposes a single individual runs the country.

Just be advised, eventually a tyrant takes power who has no use for drones, and they are sent to the gulags too. That's why it is best to pay attention to what you wish for....because you just might get it.

Stow it.

Really.

The Bush administration gloamed a plethora of brand new powers to the cheers of Conservatives. You guys crafted, passed and blessed the patriot act and the aumf.

Cheney waxed philosophic about the "Unitary Executive" while he had all sorts of secret meanings with the "oil club" and the "shadow government".

None of you folks, objected despite the fact Democrats and Liberals were warning against this stuff.

With the possible exception of Ron Paul. But he's a nut.

 

[westwall]

******* Commies

He has a point though...doesn't he. Let's take your responses for instance. You would accept a certain level of dictatorship to "keep the government going". You believe that a form of dictatorship is preferable to a Weimar style, or Duma like incompetent government.

JoeB131 unsurprisingly called for a dictator and a few others of the progressives also tacitly support a modified form of dictatorship....you know where the appearance of democracy is maintained but for all intents and purposes a single individual runs the country.

Just be advised, eventually a tyrant takes power who has no use for drones, and they are sent to the gulags too. That's why it is best to pay attention to what you wish for....because you just might get it.

Wow...you are really good at telling others what they believe

I think it is part of a strawman argument

Those are YOUR words RW. I added NOTHING to them. How is my argument a "strawman"? I asked a simple question. A few figured out what the question really meant, JoeB clearly doesn't care, he is what he is and a few tried to couch their approval in nice words, but ultimately those who are of a progressive mind felt that some form of dictatorship was acceptable. Not desirable perhaps...but acceptable.

 

[rightwinger]

He has a point though...doesn't he. Let's take your responses for instance. You would accept a certain level of dictatorship to "keep the government going". You believe that a form of dictatorship is preferable to a Weimar style, or Duma like incompetent government.

JoeB131 unsurprisingly called for a dictator and a few others of the progressives also tacitly support a modified form of dictatorship....you know where the appearance of democracy is maintained but for all intents and purposes a single individual runs the country.

Just be advised, eventually a tyrant takes power who has no use for drones, and they are sent to the gulags too. That's why it is best to pay attention to what you wish for....because you just might get it.

Wow...you are really good at telling others what they believe

I think it is part of a strawman argument

Those are YOUR words RW. I added NOTHING to them. How is my argument a "strawman"? I asked a simple question. A few figured out what the question really meant, JoeB clearly doesn't care, he is what he is and a few tried to couch their approval in nice words, but ultimately those who are of a progressive mind felt that some form of dictatorship was acceptable. Not desirable perhaps...but acceptable.

You added the term "dictatorship" Capt Hyperbole

 

[westwall]

******* Commies

He has a point though...doesn't he. Let's take your responses for instance. You would accept a certain level of dictatorship to "keep the government going". You believe that a form of dictatorship is preferable to a Weimar style, or Duma like incompetent government.

JoeB131 unsurprisingly called for a dictator and a few others of the progressives also tacitly support a modified form of dictatorship....you know where the appearance of democracy is maintained but for all intents and purposes a single individual runs the country.

Just be advised, eventually a tyrant takes power who has no use for drones, and they are sent to the gulags too. That's why it is best to pay attention to what you wish for....because you just might get it.

Stow it.

Really.

The Bush administration gloamed a plethora of brand new powers to the cheers of Conservatives. You guys crafted, passed and blessed the patriot act and the aumf.

Cheney waxed philosophic about the "Unitary Executive" while he had all sorts of secret meanings with the "oil club" and the "shadow government".

None of you folks, objected despite the fact Democrats and Liberals were warning against this stuff.

With the possible exception of Ron Paul. But he's a nut.

I'm not one of them Sallow, as the posts I have made that you have applauded me for attest. I railed against the Patriot Act even more than you I'll wager.

 

[Lakhota]

He has a point though...doesn't he. Let's take your responses for instance. You would accept a certain level of dictatorship to "keep the government going". You believe that a form of dictatorship is preferable to a Weimar style, or Duma like incompetent government.

JoeB131 unsurprisingly called for a dictator and a few others of the progressives also tacitly support a modified form of dictatorship....you know where the appearance of democracy is maintained but for all intents and purposes a single individual runs the country.

Just be advised, eventually a tyrant takes power who has no use for drones, and they are sent to the gulags too. That's why it is best to pay attention to what you wish for....because you just might get it.

Wow...you are really good at telling others what they believe

I think it is part of a strawman argument

Those are YOUR words RW. I added NOTHING to them. How is my argument a "strawman"? I asked a simple question. A few figured out what the question really meant, JoeB clearly doesn't care, he is what he is and a few tried to couch their approval in nice words, but ultimately those who are of a progressive mind felt that some form of dictatorship was acceptable. Not desirable perhaps...but acceptable.

So, you set a trap, a no-win scenario, for progressives.

 

[peach174]

******* Commies

He has a point though...doesn't he. Let's take your responses for instance. You would accept a certain level of dictatorship to "keep the government going". You believe that a form of dictatorship is preferable to a Weimar style, or Duma like incompetent government.

JoeB131 unsurprisingly called for a dictator and a few others of the progressives also tacitly support a modified form of dictatorship....you know where the appearance of democracy is maintained but for all intents and purposes a single individual runs the country.

Just be advised, eventually a tyrant takes power who has no use for drones, and they are sent to the gulags too. That's why it is best to pay attention to what you wish for....because you just might get it.

Stow it.

Really.

The Bush administration gloamed a plethora of brand new powers to the cheers of Conservatives. You guys crafted, passed and blessed the patriot act and the aumf.

Cheney waxed philosophic about the "Unitary Executive" while he had all sorts of secret meanings with the "oil club" and the "shadow government".

None of you folks, objected despite the fact Democrats and Liberals were warning against this stuff.

With the possible exception of Ron Paul. But he's a nut.

The majority was against the expansion of the FBI without a court order.
Poll ABC 2005
Allow FBI to demand records without a judge's approval? Yes - 31% No- 68%

Under this administration it has expanded to all Americans not just terrorists.

 

[Antares]

What I'd like him to do is use his bully pulpit more, railing against the true "do nothing" Congress. I'd like to see a wave of anti, anti-government sentiment wash the teabaggers out of the government they hate.

What you are going to get is a relegation of your Party to Minority status.

We'll have both Houses.

 

[Antares]

We all know that Congress is, to be kind, incompetent. They can't work together on anything. How many of you would like to see Obama bypass all of that nonsense and just use Executive Orders to enact what ever legislation you feel needs enacting?

Just wondering...

You know...............while I was in the U.S. Navy, and I saw someone who was incompetent because they either didn't care, or just hated the command, I was willing to go above their heads (i.e. to their supervisors) to get things done.
Congress is incompetent because there are a lot of Republicans (like Boehner and McConnell) who want nothing more than to stop the leadership by blocking him at every chance, even if it was something they supported only 6 months ago.

Obama has used LESS executive orders than Jr. did, and if you check the stats, he's done less on the executive order front than any other president.

If Obama can bypass the current do nothing Congress and actually get something done that is positive for this country, I say let him do whatever he needs, and issue as many executive orders as he can to get the business of this country done.

I mean.................Congress isn't going to do it, they hate him, and anything that even remotely supports him scares the crap out of them because it may upset their base.

They're not interested in helping this country, they're only interested in re-election so they can pass bullshit legislation (although, to be fair, they haven't passed much) that will help them soak up more of the corporate money that is coming from the lobbyists.

We the People used to own this country and our representatives via our vote. Now? Our country is owned by the lobbyists and the corporate interests that fund them.

You know...............while I was in the U.S. Navy, and I saw someone who was incompetent because they either didn't care, or just hated the command, I was willing to go above their heads (i.e. to their supervisors) to get things done.
you are a ******* liar !! in my 25 years in U.S. Navy Aviation and 11 different commands, there was never an E-2 who ever went over me or any of my fellow supervisors.

BTW what year did you get your BCD ?

He IS a ******* liar, you'd better have a damned good reason to break the chain of command or your ass was/is grass.

 

[bripat9643]

We all know that Congress is, to be kind, incompetent. They can't work together on anything. How many of you would like to see Obama bypass all of that nonsense and just use Executive Orders to enact what ever legislation you feel needs enacting?

Just wondering...

You mean how many would like to see Obama wipe his ass on the Constitution and behave just like a dictator?

I'm sure every liberal in this forum would. Why do you think they are constantly being called "fascists?"

 

[driveby]

What a great question! Come on libs! Tell the truth, now. You really, really want Obama to just take over, don't you? Be honest! Come on............

Two bit sarcasm from a half wit attempting to conceal his contempt for Congress because he knows they won't work with Obama just because he's (half) black. Keep up the bad work.....

 

[rightwinger]

All Obama needs to do is ignore Congress. It's not like they are going to do anything

Then just go about his job as chief executive and accomplish what he can without them

 

[driveby]

All Obama needs to do is ignore Congress. It's not like they are going to do anything

Then just go about his job as chief executive and accomplish what he can without them

Many in congress were elected to not rubber stamp his shitty policies. That's how the american system works, comrade.......

 

[westwall]

Wow...you are really good at telling others what they believe

I think it is part of a strawman argument

Those are YOUR words RW. I added NOTHING to them. How is my argument a "strawman"? I asked a simple question. A few figured out what the question really meant, JoeB clearly doesn't care, he is what he is and a few tried to couch their approval in nice words, but ultimately those who are of a progressive mind felt that some form of dictatorship was acceptable. Not desirable perhaps...but acceptable.

So, you set a trap, a no-win scenario, for progressives.

A trap? I stated the facts of our government as they currently exist and you claim that that's a trap....