How many would like Obama to ignore Congress?

Tell you what there big shot, call Harry Reid and tell that worn out piece of shit to start bringing bills (that have been sent from the House) to the floor for votes, OK?

Jesus - get your head out of your ass, will you?

I'll tell you what

I'll tell Reid to send Republican bills up for a vote if you will tell McConnell to allow Democratic bills to be voted on without 60 votes

Do we have a deal?

Tell Reid to allow opposition party amendments.

One thing at a time

Will you agree to Republicans dropping their filibuster if Reid allows House bills to come up for a vote?

Seems like an even trade to me
 
I'll tell you what

I'll tell Reid to send Republican bills up for a vote if you will tell McConnell to allow Democratic bills to be voted on without 60 votes

Do we have a deal?

60 votes has been the rule, until this current group of democrat chimps........

And where is that specifically listed in the Constitution?


In the good n' plenty clause right next to Obamacare......... :thup:
 
Tell you what there big shot, call Harry Reid and tell that worn out piece of shit to start bringing bills (that have been sent from the House) to the floor for votes, OK?

Jesus - get your head out of your ass, will you?

I'll tell you what

I'll tell Reid to send Republican bills up for a vote if you will tell McConnell to allow Democratic bills to be voted on without 60 votes

Do we have a deal?

What a dumbass. Mitch McConnell is the MINORITY leader you fool. Do you know what MINORITY is? Quit making excuses for your nazi party, dumbass. It ain't flying any longer.

Try to keep up here

The Senate has a cloture rule that requires 60 votes to proceed to the floor. republicans have required the Democrats to have 60 votes before any bill proceeds to the floor. The Dems have 55 votes

Do you agree with allowing the Dems to bring their bills to the floor if Reid allows the Republican bills to go to the floor

Sounds fair doesn't it?
 
Tell you what there big shot, call Harry Reid and tell that worn out piece of shit to start bringing bills (that have been sent from the House) to the floor for votes, OK?

Jesus - get your head out of your ass, will you?

I'll tell you what

I'll tell Reid to send Republican bills up for a vote if you will tell McConnell to allow Democratic bills to be voted on without 60 votes

Do we have a deal?

60 votes has been the rule, until this current group of democrat chimps........

OK
So you agree that all Senate bills should have 60 votes to proceed. Then why should Republican votes proceed if they only have 45 votes?
 
I'll tell you what

I'll tell Reid to send Republican bills up for a vote if you will tell McConnell to allow Democratic bills to be voted on without 60 votes

Do we have a deal?

What a dumbass. Mitch McConnell is the MINORITY leader you fool. Do you know what MINORITY is? Quit making excuses for your nazi party, dumbass. It ain't flying any longer.

Try to keep up here

The Senate has a cloture rule that requires 60 votes to proceed to the floor. republicans have required the Democrats to have 60 votes before any bill proceeds to the floor. The Dems have 55 votes

Do you agree with allowing the Dems to bring their bills to the floor if Reid allows the Republican bills to go to the floor

Sounds fair doesn't it?


Would you be the first one screaming bloody murder if the repubs had a simple majority and did away with the cloture rule? ...

Rheotorical ........ :thup:
 
I'll tell you what

I'll tell Reid to send Republican bills up for a vote if you will tell McConnell to allow Democratic bills to be voted on without 60 votes

Do we have a deal?

60 votes has been the rule, until this current group of democrat chimps........

OK
So you agree that all Senate bills should have 60 votes to proceed. Then why should Republican votes proceed if they only have 45 votes?


How did any minority party legislation ever get passed? Probably started with not having an extremely weak and divisive leader in the White House......
 
What a dumbass. Mitch McConnell is the MINORITY leader you fool. Do you know what MINORITY is? Quit making excuses for your nazi party, dumbass. It ain't flying any longer.

Try to keep up here

The Senate has a cloture rule that requires 60 votes to proceed to the floor. republicans have required the Democrats to have 60 votes before any bill proceeds to the floor. The Dems have 55 votes

Do you agree with allowing the Dems to bring their bills to the floor if Reid allows the Republican bills to go to the floor

Sounds fair doesn't it?


Would you be the first one screaming bloody murder if the repubs had a simple majority and did away with the cloture rule? ...

Rheotorical ........ :thup:

I'm making a simple offer

Reid allows Republican bills to come up for a vote and McConnell allow Democratic bills to come up for a vote

Sounds like a fair trade doesn't it?
 
60 votes has been the rule, until this current group of democrat chimps........

OK
So you agree that all Senate bills should have 60 votes to proceed. Then why should Republican votes proceed if they only have 45 votes?


How did any minority party legislation ever get passed? Probably started with not having an extremely weak and divisive leader in the White House......

Actually, it involved a lot of....I'll vote for your bill if you will vote for mine across party lines
 
OK
So you agree that all Senate bills should have 60 votes to proceed. Then why should Republican votes proceed if they only have 45 votes?


How did any minority party legislation ever get passed? Probably started with not having an extremely weak and divisive leader in the White House......

Actually, it involved a lot of....I'll vote for your bill if you will vote for mine across party lines

Until we got the current " i won, get over it " chimp in the White House........
 
And how far should he be allowed to go?

As far as the law says he can go. This isn't rocket science. If congress doesn't like his actions, they can pass some laws, or have it overturned in the courts. The fact that they don't try either shows that there's nothing illegal about his actions, and that the Republicans are just posturing. Making up lies, that is.

Assume that Congress gets totally locked up and can't work together to pass a single piece of legislation. They can make sure that the bills are paid...but that's all.

How much leeway would you give Obama?

A question so vague as to be meaningless, so I'll give an equally vague answer, that answer being "way less leeway than Republicans gave Bush." That points out how liberals are honest and consistent, and how conservatives are dishonest and hypocritical. And since you have proudly self-identified as a liberal Democrat, you should appreciate the compliment.
 
Would you be the first one screaming bloody murder if the repubs had a simple majority and did away with the cloture rule? ...

Rheotorical ........ :thup:

No. Being liberals are consistent, we'd have no problem with it. You'll probably find it nearly impossible to imagine that, how others aren't as wildly partisan as yourself. If the Republicans take control of the senate, I will have zero problems with them doing away with the filibuster rule.

As far as Obama bypassing congress to the limits of his legal authority, it's a win-win for Democrats.

First, good things get accomplished.

Second, the lunatic right loses their shit and starts demanding impeachment, and that makes the majority of the nation think Republicans are crazy, not to mention kind of seditious.

So thanks, ODSers. The crazier you get, the more of a free hand you give President Obama, the harder you make it for Republican party leaders to deny that their base is insane, and the more votes you tally up for the Democrats.

That is, Obama is rope-a-doping you ODsers, baiting you into doing his bidding. And it won't matter that I tell you that. You can't stop a scorpion from stinging, and you can't stop ODSers from acting crazy.
 
How did any minority party legislation ever get passed? Probably started with not having an extremely weak and divisive leader in the White House......

Actually, it involved a lot of....I'll vote for your bill if you will vote for mine across party lines

Until we got the current " i won, get over it " chimp in the White House........

Sorry

Not going to continue debating a racist
 
I'll tell you what

I'll tell Reid to send Republican bills up for a vote if you will tell McConnell to allow Democratic bills to be voted on without 60 votes

Do we have a deal?

What a dumbass. Mitch McConnell is the MINORITY leader you fool. Do you know what MINORITY is? Quit making excuses for your nazi party, dumbass. It ain't flying any longer.

Try to keep up here

The Senate has a cloture rule that requires 60 votes to proceed to the floor. republicans have required the Democrats to have 60 votes before any bill proceeds to the floor. The Dems have 55 votes

Do you agree with allowing the Dems to bring their bills to the floor if Reid allows the Republican bills to go to the floor

Sounds fair doesn't it?


Here's an idea....how about YOU keeping up. YOUR boy changed the cloture rule, remember?

Get your act together if you are going to argue about your Nazi counterparts.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/21/senate-nears-possible-vote-on-curbing-filibusters/
 
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We all know that Congress is, to be kind, incompetent. They can't work together on anything. How many of you would like to see Obama bypass all of that nonsense and just use Executive Orders to enact what ever legislation you feel needs enacting?

Just wondering...

No I have zero desire to live in a dictatorship which is what something like that would be.
 
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And how far should he be allowed to go?

As far as the law says he can go. This isn't rocket science. If congress doesn't like his actions, they can pass some laws, or have it overturned in the courts. The fact that they don't try either shows that there's nothing illegal about his actions, and that the Republicans are just posturing. Making up lies, that is.

Assume that Congress gets totally locked up and can't work together to pass a single piece of legislation. They can make sure that the bills are paid...but that's all.

How much leeway would you give Obama?

A question so vague as to be meaningless, so I'll give an equally vague answer, that answer being "way less leeway than Republicans gave Bush." That points out how liberals are honest and consistent, and how conservatives are dishonest and hypocritical. And since you have proudly self-identified as a liberal Democrat, you should appreciate the compliment.






:lol::lol::lol: It's BOOOOOSHES fault still huh? Last I checked the GOP didn't allow illegals to be shipped in en masse. Seems he was not responsible for the Obama ordered EPA abuse of power either. :eusa_think:
 
What a dumbass. Mitch McConnell is the MINORITY leader you fool. Do you know what MINORITY is? Quit making excuses for your nazi party, dumbass. It ain't flying any longer.

Try to keep up here

The Senate has a cloture rule that requires 60 votes to proceed to the floor. republicans have required the Democrats to have 60 votes before any bill proceeds to the floor. The Dems have 55 votes

Do you agree with allowing the Dems to bring their bills to the floor if Reid allows the Republican bills to go to the floor

Sounds fair doesn't it?


Here's an idea....how about YOU keeping up. YOUR boy changed the cloture rule, remember?

Get your act together if you are going to argue about your Nazi counterparts.


Senate Dems weaken GOP power with major filibuster rule change | Fox News

Reid only went part way. He eliminated cloture for judicial appointments only

Why won't you answer the question?

Will you support Republicans dropping their requirement for 60 votes if Reid sends the Repulican bills for a vote?

Are you afraid to answer?
 
Try to keep up here

The Senate has a cloture rule that requires 60 votes to proceed to the floor. republicans have required the Democrats to have 60 votes before any bill proceeds to the floor. The Dems have 55 votes

Do you agree with allowing the Dems to bring their bills to the floor if Reid allows the Republican bills to go to the floor

Sounds fair doesn't it?


Here's an idea....how about YOU keeping up. YOUR boy changed the cloture rule, remember?

Get your act together if you are going to argue about your Nazi counterparts.


Senate Dems weaken GOP power with major filibuster rule change | Fox News

Reid only went part way. He eliminated cloture for judicial appointments only

Why won't you answer the question?

Will you support Republicans dropping their requirement for 60 votes if Reid sends the Repulican bills for a vote?

Are you afraid to answer?


I'm not afraid to answer anything. Here are the facts. Anytime a bill comes to that scum bag Reid - it seldom comes to the floor for a vote. Reid was instructed by Barry, at the beginning of the boy king's reign to hold all legislation and he's done that. So when you are throwing a fit that "nothing gets done", look no farther than YOUR nazi party.

if you could tell me right now that Reid would begin bringing the hundreds of bills that are sitting on that assholes desk to the floor, I would be all in on the republicans voting, but that's bullshit because the gutter trash Reid is never going to do that. You know that and I know that.

November will mark the end of Reid. The man who came to DC with a net worth of 85 thousand and will leave with a net Worth of 23 MILLION will be history - and he will not be regarded well in years to come.
 
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