Zone1 how many gods are there?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You completely miss the point of free agency. No surprise, since having fucked up spectacularly in your use of your own free agency, it is surely more comfortable to deny that it was your own choice.

No I didn't. You tried to use free agency as a cover story for your god character.

After declaring it was his invention.

That's not going to hold up.

 

[Blues Man]

I do. If you did you would be at peace.

I am at peace you're the one who needs me to care about your beliefs

 

[Blues Man]

He gave us our free agency, to choose to be all that He created us to be, or to be something less.

That some of you have chosen to reject Him, and to reject what He created you to be, is your own choice, and not on Him.

He didn't do a shitty job of creating you. You did a shitty job of living up to what you were created to be.

Still giving that little 3 letter word all kinds of emotional power I see

 

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I am at peace you're the one who needs me to care about your beliefs

People at peace don't go around trying to subordinate the faith of others to build their's up.

 

[Blues Man]

People at peace don't go around trying to subordinate the faith of others to build their's up.

I am criticizing organized religion.

Why do you think religion should be immune from criticism?

Go ahead an criticize my beliefs if you want.

I don't need your approval like you seem to need mine.

 

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I am criticizing organized religion.

Why do you think religion should be immune from criticism?

Go ahead an criticize my beliefs if you want.

I don't need your approval like you seem to need mine.

You are doing exactly what socialism has always done since time immemorial, trying to subordinate the dominant religion of the land. Your criticisms are exclusively about Christianity. Own your actions, lean into them. Show everyone how big of a piece of shit you are.

 

[Blues Man]

You are doing exactly what socialism has always done since time immemorial, trying to subordinate the dominant religion of the land. Your criticisms are exclusively about Christianity. Own your actions, lean into them. Show everyone how big of a piece of shit you are.

I'm not a socialist.

Christianity is just the biggest target.

Judaism and Islam are just as bad

 

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I'm not a socialist.

Christianity is just the biggest target.

Judaism and Islam are just as bad

Then that makes you a dupe of the socialists.

And look at how you rationalize away your target. I don't see you attacking either of those other religions.

 

[Blues Man]

Then that makes you a dupe of the socialists.

And look at how you rationalize away your target. I don't see you attacking either of those other religions.

No it doesn't

And No Muslim or Jew has been in these discussions on these threads have they?

And I know I have criticized Judaism here at least a couple times and besides every time I mention the OT as a work of fiction I am criticizing Judaism

 

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No it doesn't

And No Muslim or Jew has been in these discussions on these threads have they?

And I know I have criticized Judaism here at least a couple times and besides every time I mention the OT as a work of fiction I am criticizing Judaism

"...3. The Abolition of Religion

It is especially easy for us to observe socialism's hostility to religion, for this is inherent, with few exceptions, in all contemporary socialist states and doctrines. Only rarely is the abolition of religion legislated, as it was in Albania. But the actions of other socialist states leave no doubt that they are all governed by this very principle and that only external difficulties have prevented its complete implementation. This same principle has been repeatedly proclaimed in socialist doctrines, beginning with the end of the seventeenth century. Sixteenth- and seventeenth-century doctrines are imbued with cold skeptical and ironic attitudes toward religion. If not consciously, then "objectively," they prepared humanity for the convergence of socialist ideology and militant atheism that took place at the end of the seventeenth century and during the course of the eighteenth. The heretical movements of the Middle Ages were religious in character, but those in which socialist tendencies were especially pronounced were the ones that were irrevocably opposed to the actual religion professed by the majority at the time. Calls to assassinate the Pope and to annihilate all monks and priests run like a red thread through the history of these movements. Their hatred for the basic symbols of Christianity--the cross and the church--is very striking. We encounter the burning of crosses and the profanation of churches from the first centuries of Christianity right up to the present day..."

The Socialist Phenomenon

 

[Blues Man]

"...3. The Abolition of Religion

It is especially easy for us to observe socialism's hostility to religion, for this is inherent, with few exceptions, in all contemporary socialist states and doctrines. Only rarely is the abolition of religion legislated, as it was in Albania. But the actions of other socialist states leave no doubt that they are all governed by this very principle and that only external difficulties have prevented its complete implementation. This same principle has been repeatedly proclaimed in socialist doctrines, beginning with the end of the seventeenth century. Sixteenth- and seventeenth-century doctrines are imbued with cold skeptical and ironic attitudes toward religion. If not consciously, then "objectively," they prepared humanity for the convergence of socialist ideology and militant atheism that took place at the end of the seventeenth century and during the course of the eighteenth. The heretical movements of the Middle Ages were religious in character, but those in which socialist tendencies were especially pronounced were the ones that were irrevocably opposed to the actual religion professed by the majority at the time. Calls to assassinate the Pope and to annihilate all monks and priests run like a red thread through the history of these movements. Their hatred for the basic symbols of Christianity--the cross and the church--is very striking. We encounter the burning of crosses and the profanation of churches from the first centuries of Christianity right up to the present day..."

The Socialist Phenomenon

Quote me where I have ever said anything about abolishing all religion

I bet you can't

 

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Quote me where I have ever said anything about abolishing all religion

I bet you can't

It's the logical conclusion of your believing Christianity is detrimental to society and a blight on humanity.

 

[Blues Man]

It's the logical conclusion of your believing Christianity is detrimental to society and a blight on humanity.

No it isn't.

Just because people do something I think is detrimental in now way logically means I have to abolish that thing

 

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No it isn't.

Just because people do something I think is detrimental in now way logically means I have to abolish that thing

Almost every post you make in this subforum is literally arguing that Christianity should go away.

Why run from it?

 

[Blues Man]

Almost every post you make in this subforum is literally arguing that Christianity should go away.

Why run from it?

That's your opinion. I criticize you take it personally you lie about what I say.

 

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That's your opinion. I criticize you take it personally you lie about what I say.

No, I think you are the one who takes other people having faith personally which is why you attack them for it. I'm just defending myself from your attacks.

 

[Blues Man]

No, I think you are the one who takes other people having faith personally which is why you attack them for it. I'm just defending myself from your attacks.

You think wrong as usual.

And I'm not attacking you I am criticizing organized religion.

 

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You think wrong as usual.

And I'm not attacking you I am criticizing organized religion.

Which by association is an attack on people of faith and an attempt to subordinate their beliefs.

 

[Blues Man]

Which by association is an attack on people of faith and an attempt to subordinate their beliefs.

No it isn't it is an attack of a corrupt institution

You claim this intellectual superiority and you can't see that?

 

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No it isn't it is an attack of a corrupt institution

You claim this intellectual superiority and you can't see that?

If it were a corrupt institution then it would not still exist.