How Israel Used Its Own Civilians as Human Shields While Assaulting Gaza

[Phoenall]

How stupid does someone have to be to not understand that if you don't launch missiles at Israel or try to attack Israelis through tunnels, then Israel will not start an operation in Gaza?

Also, I don't normally criticize sources, but Global research is incredibly biased! Which is why I'm not surprised that a dumb piece of trash like you uses it.

You're so pathetic , it's not even funny!

You didn't even read what I posted, did you?

In every case, Israel was the one who started the shooting.

Or do you think when shot at, people should just sit there and take it?

BTW, GR is a non-aligned, non-partisan, Canadian website.

Not according to your own post that showed when hamas fired rockets Israel responded almost immediately, then hamas would fire again two day later. Proving that chronologically hamas was provoking a response from Israel.

I can ask you the same question do you think that Israel should just sit back and do nothing while the Palestinians shoot chemical/biological weapons at their children.

 

[Phoenall]

no questions need to be asked before we all understand each side entirely, later on you can discuss about the events and turns.
That answer the first why..if i got it correctly you relate to the pre-operation assaults.
Hamas-fatah unified government deserve to sit in jail or die for the past terrorist acts, the fact they decided to make pact just clearing any doubt about their-call it- 'goal' of eliminating israel, any means necessary.
Out of 1800 fatalities only 700 were innocent only..1,100 terrorists 95% of them with weapon in hand, based on evidence gathered idf made excellent work, and the unfortunate gazans pay for their pride and arrogance while electing hamas/fatah in the past, and taking active/passive part with their 'noble goal'..

the unified government has no seats occupied by terrorists - specifically, there are no seats occupied by any hamas member. The government is headed by abbas, who has been a trusted partner with israel on security in the west bank.

A founding principle of that government is israel's permanence - something hamas agreed to when they acceded to this government.

Not only that, but the prime minister of gaza who was elected in 2006 (and is hamas) stated clearly that israel has full rights of permanence. Gaza did not elect leadership that was working for israel's removal. So, you are just plain wrong on that, too.

I want to know why israel attacked gaza. I want to know why they put in place draconian collective punishment against civilian citizens both in gaza and in west bank as a reaction to the unity government.

Don't give me your phony body count nonsense - i want to know why israel attacked gaza.

simple answer terrorism

 

[Phoenall]

1. True, the unity government led by hamas and fatah(abbas) - which pays salaries to imprisoned terrorists in israel, abbas has zero western ideologies, the only difference between hamas and fatah is the negotiation with israel or not, for achieving better position for the palestinians to continue their bloodshed.
Abbas proved untrustworthy over the years with refusals and cold legs when it comes to negotiating, denying terrorists, or taking any kind of step for the sake of the palestinians - the innocent part of them - the only thing he ever did was agree to sit for limited time negotiation after israel released 350 terrorists, nothing more.

absolutely false. Abbas has earned significant trust from israel as shown by the level of security they depend on from him.

The salaries netanyahu confiscated were for government workers who are now even more dependent on hamas for the very survival of their families.

"cold legs"??? Netanyahu signed the bush "road map" and then refused to carry out the very acts his signature committed him to carry out.

Since then, netanhayu has continued his program of ethnic cleansing in west bank, stealing property, destroying homes, stealing water rights, preventing access to farming, denying travel to gaza even for governmental purposes.

And, now netanyahu has instigated new levels of collective punishment in their assault on gaza that started this war.

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[Billo_Really]

Not according to your own post that showed when hamas fired rockets Israel responded almost immediately, then hamas would fire again two day later. Proving that chronologically hamas was provoking a response from Israel.

I can ask you the same question do you think that Israel should just sit back and do nothing while the Palestinians shoot chemical/biological weapons at their children.

Earth to 15 year old, earth to 15 year old,

The post of mine you are referring to, clearly showed Israel firing the first shots...

01/03/2013

"Israeli military vehicles briefly entered the Gaza Strip borders on Thursday to level land, eyewitnesses told Ma'an."

01/05/2013

"Israeli soldiers shot and injured a man in the northern Gaza Strip on Saturday, a health ministry spokesman said. Ashraf al-Qidra told Ma'an said that Abdullah al-Zaneen, 32, was shot by Israeli forces east of Beit Hanoun. Al-Zaneen was employed by the Gaza government to work in a rubbish tip in the area."

The list you provided didn't show the first Hamas rocket attack until January 13, 2014.

January 13

Two rockets were launched to the Northern Negev desert, near Sderot. There were no injuries or damage reported

Why don't you just GFY you little troll and give us all a break?

 

[Billo_Really]

simple answer terrorism

Resistance is not terrorism.

Having to read your pathetic little sound bites, is terrorism.

 

[Daniyel]

simple answer terrorism

Resistance is not terrorism.

Having to read your pathetic little sound bites, is terrorism.

Resistance to what? - Since 1920 the Palestinians "RESIST" Israelis and the last time I checked - VIOLENTLY
The blockade? - Only since 2006.
The airstrikes? - Only direct assassination of "resistance" members.
What ******* resistance are you talking about? Hamas-Fatah-PIJ-PLO-PFLP ALWAYS launched attacks against civilians I don't even know what came first the Palestinians or Terrorism.
Billo, They have nothing to with Israeli civilians..this is not 'collective' or 'collateral' damage, and they never even said it is, they target civilians..and they are proud of it..

 

[Daniyel]

Look what I found.

 

[Billo_Really]

Resistance to what? - Since 1920 the Palestinians "RESIST" Israelis and the last time I checked - VIOLENTLY
The blockade? - Only since 2006.
The airstrikes? - Only direct assassination of "resistance" members.
What ******* resistance are you talking about? Hamas-Fatah-PIJ-PLO-PFLP ALWAYS launched attacks against civilians I don't even know what came first the Palestinians or Terrorism.
Billo, They have nothing to with Israeli civilians..this is not 'collective' or 'collateral' damage, and they never even said it is, they target civilians..and they are proud of it..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt498uwtinQ

You'll know the answer to those questions the day you grow up and become a responsible adult.

 

[Daniyel]

Resistance to what? - Since 1920 the Palestinians "RESIST" Israelis and the last time I checked - VIOLENTLY
The blockade? - Only since 2006.
The airstrikes? - Only direct assassination of "resistance" members.
What ******* resistance are you talking about? Hamas-Fatah-PIJ-PLO-PFLP ALWAYS launched attacks against civilians I don't even know what came first the Palestinians or Terrorism.
Billo, They have nothing to with Israeli civilians..this is not 'collective' or 'collateral' damage, and they never even said it is, they target civilians..and they are proud of it..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt498uwtinQ

You'll know the answer to those questions the day you grow up and become a responsible adult.

I took 3 rocks in my right shoulder and one in my back while guarding with my body a 16 years old boy from Isawiya arrested a minute before, by me, for throwing rocks and firebomb on us.
Responsible enough for you? Well guess what - I couldn't care less about your opinion.
Not to mention you dodged again from answering directly to the subject, way to go ******.

 

[RoccoR]

[MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION], et al,

You need to be a little less sharp with that tongue of yours; needing to be just a little more thoughtful in your impulse to speak without thinking.

Adulthood does not always bring with it maturity and comprehension; as demonstrated by this remark.

You'll know the answer to those questions the day you grow up and become a responsible adult.

(COMMENT)

In the case of the historical developments since the time the decisions were made in San Remo nearly a century ago, progress has been made and setbacks experienced. Political scientists generally believe that no intervention designed to save a societal culture is really ever a failure. --- And that developmental efforts to preserve a once besieged and beleaguered people are crucial to humanity; as a whole. These are representative of a natural process in the advancement of humanity and the species. But they also believe that with all such achievements, as those to reconstitute the Jewish National Home, --- and --- with the creation of a shelter and umbrella of protection, there comes with it a price (the Palestinian Conflict) under that blueprint.

As we see a gradual shift in the support away from HAMAS, and the positive developments being observed in Israeli-Arab regional relations, a glimpse of light is finally appearing in the tunnel to the future. When it is bright enough for everyone to see, the conditions for peaceful settlement will be at hand.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Crystalclear]

simple answer terrorism

Resistance is not terrorism.



Having to read your pathetic little sound bites, is terrorism.

Hamas is just a group of Muslim fundamentalists who want to kill Jews. In what way is that not terorism?
Hamas is no better than IS, Al-Qaida and any other terrorist organisation.

 

[Lipush]

None of those bases are used as combat bases. The high commandments alone, nobody shoots from behind civilians from those points.

Gosh, youre lame

You demolished a home, simply because someone from Hamas was reported to be living there.

Don't give me this lame shit.

"reported"?

We have intelligence, ever heard of it?

 

[Billo_Really]

[MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION], et al,

You need to be a little less sharp with that tongue of yours; needing to be just a little more thoughtful in your impulse to speak without thinking.

Adulthood does not always bring with it maturity and comprehension; as demonstrated by this remark.

You'll know the answer to those questions the day you grow up and become a responsible adult.

(COMMENT)

In the case of the historical developments since the time the decisions were made in San Remo nearly a century ago, progress has been made and setbacks experienced. Political scientists generally believe that no intervention designed to save a societal culture is really ever a failure. --- And that developmental efforts to preserve a once besieged and beleaguered people are crucial to humanity; as a whole. These are representative of a natural process in the advancement of humanity and the species. But they also believe that with all such achievements, as those to reconstitute the Jewish National Home, --- and --- with the creation of a shelter and umbrella of protection, there comes with it a price (the Palestinian Conflict) under that blueprint.

As we see a gradual shift in the support away from HAMAS, and the positive developments being observed in Israeli-Arab regional relations, a glimpse of light is finally appearing in the tunnel to the future. When it is bright enough for everyone to see, the conditions for peaceful settlement will be at hand.

Most Respectfully,
R

I find his (and your) hypocrisy disgusting!

Responsible adults take ownership over the things they do, they don't blame others for them.

YOU are maintaining the occupation
YOU are maintaining the blockade
YOU are pulling the trigger on innocent civilians​

So stop blaming Hamas for the shit things YOU are doing!

There is no reason not to support Hamas. It's none of your god-damn business who Gazans choose to represent them.

As far as Danny-boy, I found his questions to be OBSCENE!

 

[Billo_Really]

"reported"?

We have intelligence, ever heard of it?

There's no such thing as a human shield, when you are dropping 1000 pound bombs that take out whole neighborhoods.

 

[Billo_Really]

Hamas is just a group of Muslim fundamentalists who want to kill Jews. In what way is that not terorism?
Hamas is no better than IS, Al-Qaida and any other terrorist organisation.

What does street improvements have to do with terrorism?

When Hamas puts up street lights and the IDF rolls in later and shoots out the lamps at the top, who's the terrorist in that situation?

 

[Lipush]

"reported"?

We have intelligence, ever heard of it?

There's no such thing as a human shield, when you are dropping 1000 pound bombs that take out whole neighborhoods.

Things will get so much better once they'll stop trying and kill Israeli civilians.

 

[Billo_Really]

I took 3 rocks in my right shoulder and one in my back while guarding with my body a 16 years old boy from Isawiya arrested a minute before, by me, for throwing rocks and firebomb on us.
Responsible enough for you? Well guess what - I couldn't care less about your opinion.
Not to mention you dodged again from answering directly to the subject, way to go ******.

Since you don't answer any of my questions, I don't answer any of yours.

That's how it works!

And besides, I find your questions to be obscene and offensive!

After what you people have done to Gaza, don't even give me this holier-than-thou attitude; that kind of shit just makes me go ballistic!

There's not that much difference between you and Nazi Germany any more. You're just as bad, if not worse.

 

[Lipush]

Don't you think that the holier-than-thou moronic repeated terminology is getting kinda old?? He was having a serious normal discussion with you, but you're like a mantra, how about trying to take the other siding poster seriously, for a change, eh?

 

[Billo_Really]

Things will get so much better once they'll stop trying and kill Israeli civilians.

Actually, when you compare targets between Hamas and the IDF during this latest conflict:

• you've killed almost 2000 people, 80% of them civilians, 300 of them children
• Hamas has killed 75 military assets, 2 civilians, 1 Thai worker and wounded a kibbutz owl

Not only are you the ones trying to kill civilians, you're the ones shooting first!

 

[Billo_Really]

Don't you think that the holier-than-thou moronic repeated terminology is getting kinda old?? He was having a serious normal discussion with you, but you're like a mantra, how about trying to take the other siding poster seriously, for a change, eh?

Questioning the resistance, marginalizing the blockade, acting like you're not targeting civilians, is not a serious, normal discussion.

After doing what you've done to Gaza, then pointing the fingers at Hamas and blaming them for your crimes against humanity, acting like your the angels and their the devils really doesn't wash.

There is no way of taking the side of the aggressor and acting like they are the victim.

That's ridiculous!

Once you end the occupation, end the blockade, end all your missile attacks against Gaza, leave the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Golan Heights, then and only then, if you are attacked by anyone, with anything, from any where, will I be on your side.

And so will the rest of the world, for that matter.