Finally the answer about the fatalities.
1100 terrorists (civilian militants like Islamic Jihad and AAM) - 700 unarmed civilians 300 women and children.
This is the real numbers, but the administration of Hamas should be questioned by the Palestinians, how come they still making demands knowingly they are no match for Israel in the military ground.
No questions need to be asked before we all understand each side entirely, later on you can discuss about the events and turns.
That answer the first why..if I got it correctly you relate to the pre-operation assaults.
Hamas-Fatah Unified Government deserve to sit in jail or die for the past terrorist acts, the fact they decided to make pact just clearing any doubt about their-call it- 'goal' of eliminating Israel, any means necessary.
Out of 1800 fatalities only 700 were innocent only..1,100 terrorists 95% of them with weapon in hand, based on evidence gathered IDF made excellent work, and the unfortunate Gazans pay for their pride and arrogance while electing Hamas/Fatah in the past, and taking active/passive part with their 'noble goal'..
The unified government has no seats occupied by terrorists - specifically, there are no seats occupied by any Hamas member. The government is headed by Abbas, who has been a trusted partner with Israel on security in the West Bank.
A founding principle of that government is Israel's permanence - something Hamas agreed to when they acceded to this government.
Not only that, but the prime minister of Gaza who was elected in 2006 (and is Hamas) stated clearly that Israel has full rights of permanence. Gaza did NOT elect leadership that was working for Israel's removal. So, you are just plain wrong on that, too.
I want to know why Israel attacked Gaza. I want to know why they put in place draconian collective punishment against civilian citizens both in Gaza and in West Bank as a reaction to the unity government.
Don't give me your phony body count nonsense - I want to know why Israel attacked Gaza.
Can you please sum all the comments to one post? anyway, all the 'Palestinians' leadership all over the ******* years were terrorist, from The Grand Moufti-Nazi to Yasser Arafat PLO continuing to Mohamad Deif (Head of the Hamas military wing) to all the Hamas superstars, Abu-Mazen is also indirectly support terrorism and denied entry to Israel but due to the situation Israel does negotiate.
However, they are all bunch of terrorist and 'BEING' Hamas member (I won't say vote support terror) or funding terrorists is a crime and you bear the same responsibility.
No, I can not "sum all comments to one post" any more than you can. And, you're having enough problem responding to what I DO post, so why ask for more?
You've called everyone opposed to Israeli expansion a supporter of terrorism so far. I'd point out that Israel has taken terrorist action as well. Hamas has only lame rockets, so guess what? That's what they use.
Israel, on the other hand, has been given stupendous power and precisely targetable munitions, yet still uses fletchet shells from ships to slaughter all who are exposed in a neighborhood, mows down civilians from tanks as they wave the white flag (as reported by Human Rights Watch), bulldozes homes of civilians in punishment for acts of politicians, and builds illegal settlements.
And, you state your pride in NOT being terrorist?? On what grounds???
The unified government has no seats occupied by terrorists - specifically, there are no seats occupied by any Hamas member. The government is headed by Abbas, who has been a trusted partner with Israel on security in the West Bank.
A founding principle of that government is Israel's permanence - something Hamas agreed to when they acceded to this government.
Not only that, but the prime minister of Gaza who was elected in 2006 (and is Hamas) stated clearly that Israel has full rights of permanence. Gaza did NOT elect leadership that was working for Israel's removal. So, you are just plain wrong on that, too.
I want to know why Israel attacked Gaza. I want to know why they put in place draconian collective punishment against civilian citizens both in Gaza and in West Bank as a reaction to the unity government.
Don't give me your phony body count nonsense - I want to know why Israel attacked Gaza.
Can you please sum all the comments to one post? anyway, all the 'Palestinians' leadership all over the ******* years were terrorist, from The Grand Moufti-Nazi to Yasser Arafat PLO continuing to Mohamad Deif (Head of the Hamas military wing) to all the Hamas superstars, Abu-Mazen is also indirectly support terrorism and denied entry to Israel but due to the situation Israel does negotiate.
However, they are all bunch of terrorist and 'BEING' Hamas member (I won't say vote support terror) or funding terrorists is a crime and you bear the same responsibility.
No, I can not "sum all comments to one post" any more than you can. And, you're having enough problem responding to what I DO post, so why ask for more?
You've called everyone opposed to Israeli expansion a supporter of terrorism so far. I'd point out that Israel has taken terrorist action as well. Hamas has only lame rockets, so guess what? That's what they use.
Israel, on the other hand, has been given stupendous power and precisely targetable munitions, yet still uses fletchet shells from ships to slaughter all who are exposed in a neighborhood, mows down civilians from tanks as they wave the white flag (as reported by Human Rights Watch), bulldozes homes of civilians in punishment for acts of politicians, and builds illegal settlements.
And, you state your pride in NOT being terrorist?? On what grounds???
Can you please sum all the comments to one post? anyway, all the 'Palestinians' leadership all over the ******* years were terrorist, from The Grand Moufti-Nazi to Yasser Arafat PLO continuing to Mohamad Deif (Head of the Hamas military wing) to all the Hamas superstars, Abu-Mazen is also indirectly support terrorism and denied entry to Israel but due to the situation Israel does negotiate.
However, they are all bunch of terrorist and 'BEING' Hamas member (I won't say vote support terror) or funding terrorists is a crime and you bear the same responsibility.
No, I can not "sum all comments to one post" any more than you can. And, you're having enough problem responding to what I DO post, so why ask for more?
You've called everyone opposed to Israeli expansion a supporter of terrorism so far. I'd point out that Israel has taken terrorist action as well. Hamas has only lame rockets, so guess what? That's what they use.
Israel, on the other hand, has been given stupendous power and precisely targetable munitions, yet still uses fletchet shells from ships to slaughter all who are exposed in a neighborhood, mows down civilians from tanks as they wave the white flag (as reported by Human Rights Watch), bulldozes homes of civilians in punishment for acts of politicians, and builds illegal settlements.
And, you state your pride in NOT being terrorist?? On what grounds???
Just let me emphasize that I'm absolutely against Hamas and fully believe Israel has every right of existence within borders that must be negotiated.
However, Israel is taking actions that must be considered illegal in its expansion in West Bank and its treatment of Gaza. And, these actions appear to be making any resolution impossible.
Having been embargoed since 2006 is not some small thing. Embargoes such as recently imposed are acts of war. They cause death of civilians. They destroy the economy. They prevent hope. And, even after 8 long years of that punishment, Israel has offered no peaceful way out. Why should Israel (or any other nation) not fully expect war given that situation? Would ANY other region not go to war over a neighbor imposing the conditions that Israel imposes on Gaza?
Just let me emphasize that I'm absolutely against Hamas and fully believe Israel has every right of existence within borders that must be negotiated.
However, Israel is taking actions that must be considered illegal in its expansion in West Bank and its treatment of Gaza. And, these actions appear to be making any resolution impossible.
Having been embargoed since 2006 is not some small thing. Embargoes such as recently imposed are acts of war. They cause death of civilians. They destroy the economy. They prevent hope. And, even after 8 long years of that punishment, Israel has offered no peaceful way out. Why should Israel (or any other nation) not fully expect war given that situation? Would ANY other region not go to war over a neighbor imposing the conditions that Israel imposes on Gaza?
The wall in the West Bank was built to stop suicide bombers coming into Israel and the blockade of Gaza was to stop the militarisation of terrorist groups and as long as Hamas exists those security means should not be removed.
But I agree Israel has to do something about those Jewish religious extremists expanding their settlements in the West Bank. It is unfair to the Arab population living there.
Just let me emphasize that I'm absolutely against Hamas and fully believe Israel has every right of existence within borders that must be negotiated.
However, Israel is taking actions that must be considered illegal in its expansion in West Bank and its treatment of Gaza. And, these actions appear to be making any resolution impossible.
Having been embargoed since 2006 is not some small thing. Embargoes such as recently imposed are acts of war. They cause death of civilians. They destroy the economy. They prevent hope. And, even after 8 long years of that punishment, Israel has offered no peaceful way out. Why should Israel (or any other nation) not fully expect war given that situation? Would ANY other region not go to war over a neighbor imposing the conditions that Israel imposes on Gaza?
The wall in the West Bank was built to stop suicide bombers coming into Israel and the blockade of Gaza was to stop the militarisation of terrorist groups and as long as Hamas exists those security means should not be removed.
But I agree Israel has to do something about those Jewish religious extremists expanding their settlements in the West Bank. It is unfair to the Arab population living there.
That's interesting Bill. So the IDF are using those civilians as an extra layer of protection, so they can complain about risks to civilians if ever Hamas decides to attack?Luckily, Hamas are more moral than the IDF and would only wait for the IDF to come to clear ground in Gaza, away from Israeli civilians. Did you know that Hamas are the most moral army in the world?
One would assume this is satire. It should also be asked why did iran place major parts of its illegal nuclear weapons program inside universities, next to civilian homes, apartment buildings, or under them in many cases.
... the Israeli Defense Force is woven into the very fabric of Israeli national life, given their Swiss Army -like citizen-soldier military, in which virtually everyone is an active participant, or performs acceptable alternative service. ...
What is there to refute - your mentally depraved ravings?
The better question is why did hamas build tunnels directly under civilian neighborhoods in Israel, and away from any military targets.
BTW, to the sane; Israel's military buildings, air fields, etc., are nowhere near civilian facilities, but the mentally ill jew-hating dogshyte like to lie quite frequently.
Hey - no problem there at all.
Just let me emphasize that I'm absolutely against Hamas and fully believe Israel has every right of existence within borders that must be negotiated.
However, Israel is taking actions that must be considered illegal in its expansion in West Bank and its treatment of Gaza. And, these actions appear to be making any resolution impossible.
Having been embargoed since 2006 is not some small thing. Embargoes such as recently imposed are acts of war. They cause death of civilians. They destroy the economy. They prevent hope. And, even after 8 long years of that punishment, Israel has offered no peaceful way out. Why should Israel (or any other nation) not fully expect war given that situation? Would ANY other region not go to war over a neighbor imposing the conditions that Israel imposes on Gaza?
The wall in the West Bank was built to stop suicide bombers coming into Israel and the blockade of Gaza was to stop the militarisation of terrorist groups and as long as Hamas exists those security means should not be removed.
But I agree Israel has to do something about those Jewish religious extremists expanding
their settlements in the West Bank. It is unfair to the Arab population living there.
I Know the 'Wall' sound intimidating like a ghetto wall and the pictures and graffiti on the Palestinian side is very inspiring - don't be mistaken, I bet you got a fence and you have great relationship with your neighbors, but here in Israel we got suicide bombers to tractor driving over innocents, to be honest the rocks are only a threat when it come from Israeli Arabs, that's why Israel paved roads far as possible from any Arab town in the WB and Palestinians have nothing to do with them since the end of the road leads to a checkpoint entry to Israel..so this is the so called 'Israeli only roads' and like many facts that sound terrible - this require a much more investigation in detail before bringing up all these claims and statements, and for the safety of Israelis - we built a wall to keep them away from us, like most Israeli settlements in the WB - they are surrounded by walls and heavily guarded by the settlers, unlike Palestinian towns/villages/cities because you can't even be seen there or you'll be dead - lynched type of dead.. -
The debate about the settlements are being illegal/legal is pretty much off topic when people are dying everyday, being assaulted everyday, and what else not, but no Palestinian leader ever care, they keep saying 'our people is dying' but this is only to serve the Palestinian agenda, if they would've really care I think they would've beg for ceasefire and I'm not talking about Hamas now, I'm talking about Abbas the leader of
So before we break everything here let me bring up 4 points and you'll tell me if this is about Israel or the Palestinians.
1.Palestinians (Along with the Egyptian-Hamas 'The Muslim Brotherhood') - Tried to take over Egypt and called war on Israel regardless of the peace treaty.
2.Palestinians (Along with Syria[HUMANITARIAN SYRIA] in Jordan) - Tried to take over Jordan violently and assassinate the king.
3.Palestinians (Along with Hezbullah) - Succeed to take over Lebanon..(The refugees are in Israel of course)
4.Palestinians (Along with Israeli Arabs) - Trying to take over Israel...
Are these a trustworthy people? Lets focus over this part first, because for peace you need two, you can analyze 4 different events involving Palestinians violence and 4 different actions made.
You know handing over the entire Sinai Peninsula wasn't a problem for Israel although we could have rule the oil market with some Israeli technology and much more funding..just for peace, so few settlements is the real issue when people dying?
So something is probably wrong, lets finish discussing about the Palestinians first.
[MENTION=48190]Crystalclear[/MENTION] [MENTION=46231]WillReadmore[/MENTION]
But I agree Israel has to do something about those Jewish religious extremists expanding their settlements in the West Bank. It is unfair to the Arab population living there.
- don't be mistaken, I bet you got a fence and you have great relationship with your neighbors, but here in Israel we got suicide bombers to tractor driving over innocents,
that's why Israel paved roads far as possible from any Arab town in the WB and Palestinians have nothing to do with them since the end of the road leads to a checkpoint entry to Israel..
so this is the so called 'Israeli only roads' and like many facts that sound terrible - this require a much more investigation in detail before bringing up all these claims and statements, and for the safety of Israelis - we built a wall to keep them away from us, like most Israeli settlements in the WB - they are surrounded by walls and heavily guarded by the settlers, unlike Palestinian towns/villages/cities because you can't even be seen there or you'll be dead - lynched type of dead.. -
No, it is not off topic! It is very much THE topic. The settlements are illegal. Stop breaking the god-damn law! You need to drag those Israeli insurgents back to Israel.
when people are dying everyday, being assaulted everyday, and what else not, but no Palestinian leader ever care, they keep saying 'our people is dying' but this is only to serve the Palestinian agenda, if they would've really care I think they would've beg for ceasefire and I'm not talking about Hamas now, I'm talking about Abbas the leader of
So before we break everything here let me bring up 4 points and you'll tell me if this is about Israel or the Palestinians.
1.Palestinians (Along with the Egyptian-Hamas 'The Muslim Brotherhood') - Tried to take over Egypt and called war on Israel regardless of the peace treaty.
2.Palestinians (Along with Syria[HUMANITARIAN SYRIA] in Jordan) - Tried to take over Jordan violently and assassinate the king.
3.Palestinians (Along with Hezbullah) - Succeed to take over Lebanon..(The refugees are in Israel of course)
4.Palestinians (Along with Israeli Arabs) - Trying to take over Israel...
Are these a trustworthy people? Lets focus over this part first, because for peace you need two, you can analyze 4 different events involving Palestinians violence and 4 different actions made.
You know handing over the entire Sinai Peninsula wasn't a problem for Israel although we could have rule the oil market with some Israeli technology and much more funding..just for peace, so few settlements is the real issue when people dying?
So something is probably wrong, lets finish discussing about the Palestinians first.
[MENTION=48190]Crystalclear[/MENTION] [MENTION=46231]WillReadmore[/MENTION]
Actually, what she said about you is 100% correct. You are a brainwashed sheep and you believe EVERYTHING you read as long as it vilifies Israel.
And your Nazi comparisons prove that you're as dumb as a brick!
Shouldn't you be asking for Israel to be nuked like you did last month?
