How God works in our lives

[ding]

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

SEA OF GALILEE - What's special about the Sea of Galilee? Why does it have sudden storms? • KidExplorers.com / ChristianAnswers.Net

More Than a Fisherman

So the setting for this account is valid. In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Potentially the same way Bugs Bunny works in my life.

 

[GWV5903]

Potentially the same way Bugs Bunny works in my life.

Explains a lot...

 

[tyroneweaver]

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

View attachment 119718

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

View attachment 119719

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

SEA OF GALILEE - What's special about the Sea of Galilee? Why does it have sudden storms? • KidExplorers.com / ChristianAnswers.Net

More Than a Fisherman

So the setting for this account is valid. In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

Nice post Ding.

 

[heil hitler]

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

View attachment 119718

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

View attachment 119719

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

SEA OF GALILEE - What's special about the Sea of Galilee? Why does it have sudden storms? • KidExplorers.com / ChristianAnswers.Net

More Than a Fisherman

So the setting for this account is valid. In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

Well OF COURSE Jesus was sleeping. He was the son of God. Besides, if he fell out of the boat he would just walk to shore.

 

[ding]

Potentially the same way Bugs Bunny works in my life.

If that were true then it would manifest itself in peace through storms and an improved understanding of one's own self and the steady march of improvement.

 

[emilynghiem]

Potentially the same way Bugs Bunny works in my life.

^ actually frigidweirdo ^
there may be some Zen truth in what you say:

Bugs Bunny has been compared with a Zen Master,
who deliberately "comforts the afflicted, and afflicts the comfortable"

Some people DO respond to this type of stimulation in order to grow in life.
If we don't get it from religion, we might get it from other people,
even those who confront and challenge us in ways that disturb us and wake us from complacency.

 

[emilynghiem]

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

View attachment 119718

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

View attachment 119719

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

SEA OF GALILEE - What's special about the Sea of Galilee? Why does it have sudden storms? • KidExplorers.com / ChristianAnswers.Net

More Than a Fisherman

So the setting for this account is valid. In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

Nice analogy and allegory, ding

When people try to blame all manner of evil on Christianity and religion, for abusing power to commit mass genocide and other wrongs,
I also compare it to water and the ocean:

Sure, one could blame WATER and NATURE for the destructive TSUNAMIS and FLOODS that destroy lives and everything in their paths.

However, the same forces of nature and the role that WATER plays
ALSO BRING LIFE that DEPENDS on water to survive.

So how can you only look at the DESTRUCTION causes by Water and forces of nature running far out of control where they KILL masses of people.

And not also consider the GIFT of life that water and nature provide?

Can we look at religion the same way: as much destruction and suffering as it causes when extreme conditions reel out of control,
what about the greater good from religious teachings and traditions?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Potentially the same way Bugs Bunny works in my life.

^ actually frigidweirdo ^
there may be some Zen truth in what you say:

Bugs Bunny has been compared with a Zen Master,
who deliberately "comforts the afflicted, and afflicts the comfortable"

Some people DO respond to this type of stimulation in order to grow in life.
If we don't get it from religion, we might get it from other people,
even those who confront and challenge us in ways that disturb us and wake us from complacency.

Sure, people create their own fantasy world to protect themselves from the real world, and within this bubble they feel more comfortable. This fantasy world can consist of almost anything that isn't real.

 

[MaryL]

When My mother died from cancer, or my dog was hit and killed, THAT random chance, a mathematical fluke.But we all die and that's not god's will . We all die some day.

 

[ding]

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

View attachment 119718

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

View attachment 119719

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

SEA OF GALILEE - What's special about the Sea of Galilee? Why does it have sudden storms? • KidExplorers.com / ChristianAnswers.Net

More Than a Fisherman

So the setting for this account is valid. In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

Nice analogy and allegory, ding

When people try to blame all manner of evil on Christianity and religion, for abusing power to commit mass genocide and other wrongs,
I also compare it to water and the ocean:

Sure, one could blame WATER and NATURE for the destructive TSUNAMIS and FLOODS that destroy lives and everything in their paths.

However, the same forces of nature and the role that WATER plays
ALSO BRING LIFE that DEPENDS on water to survive.

So how can you only look at the DESTRUCTION causes by Water and forces of nature running far out of control where they KILL masses of people.

And not also consider the GIFT of life that water and nature provide?

Can we look at religion the same way: as much destruction and suffering as it causes when extreme conditions reel out of control,
what about the greater good from religious teachings and traditions?

Sure. God gets all of the blame and none of the credit.

 

[Mudda]

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

View attachment 119718

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

View attachment 119719

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

SEA OF GALILEE - What's special about the Sea of Galilee? Why does it have sudden storms? • KidExplorers.com / ChristianAnswers.Net

More Than a Fisherman

So the setting for this account is valid. In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

Nice analogy and allegory, ding

When people try to blame all manner of evil on Christianity and religion, for abusing power to commit mass genocide and other wrongs,
I also compare it to water and the ocean:

Sure, one could blame WATER and NATURE for the destructive TSUNAMIS and FLOODS that destroy lives and everything in their paths.

However, the same forces of nature and the role that WATER plays
ALSO BRING LIFE that DEPENDS on water to survive.

So how can you only look at the DESTRUCTION causes by Water and forces of nature running far out of control where they KILL masses of people.

And not also consider the GIFT of life that water and nature provide?

Can we look at religion the same way: as much destruction and suffering as it causes when extreme conditions reel out of control,
what about the greater good from religious teachings and traditions?

Sure. God gets all of the blame and none of the credit.

So god is responsible for drowning people at sea? And then there was the flood, where he purposely killed tons of people. Kinda like Hitler.

 

[ding]

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

View attachment 119718

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

View attachment 119719

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

SEA OF GALILEE - What's special about the Sea of Galilee? Why does it have sudden storms? • KidExplorers.com / ChristianAnswers.Net

More Than a Fisherman

So the setting for this account is valid. In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

Nice analogy and allegory, ding

When people try to blame all manner of evil on Christianity and religion, for abusing power to commit mass genocide and other wrongs,
I also compare it to water and the ocean:

Sure, one could blame WATER and NATURE for the destructive TSUNAMIS and FLOODS that destroy lives and everything in their paths.

However, the same forces of nature and the role that WATER plays
ALSO BRING LIFE that DEPENDS on water to survive.

So how can you only look at the DESTRUCTION causes by Water and forces of nature running far out of control where they KILL masses of people.

And not also consider the GIFT of life that water and nature provide?

Can we look at religion the same way: as much destruction and suffering as it causes when extreme conditions reel out of control,
what about the greater good from religious teachings and traditions?

Sure. God gets all of the blame and none of the credit.

So god is responsible for drowning people at sea? And then there was the flood, where he purposely killed tons of people. Kinda like Hitler.

If that is how you want to see it.

 

[Mudda]

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

View attachment 119718

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

View attachment 119719

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

SEA OF GALILEE - What's special about the Sea of Galilee? Why does it have sudden storms? • KidExplorers.com / ChristianAnswers.Net

More Than a Fisherman

So the setting for this account is valid. In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

Nice analogy and allegory, ding

When people try to blame all manner of evil on Christianity and religion, for abusing power to commit mass genocide and other wrongs,
I also compare it to water and the ocean:

Sure, one could blame WATER and NATURE for the destructive TSUNAMIS and FLOODS that destroy lives and everything in their paths.

However, the same forces of nature and the role that WATER plays
ALSO BRING LIFE that DEPENDS on water to survive.

So how can you only look at the DESTRUCTION causes by Water and forces of nature running far out of control where they KILL masses of people.

And not also consider the GIFT of life that water and nature provide?

Can we look at religion the same way: as much destruction and suffering as it causes when extreme conditions reel out of control,
what about the greater good from religious teachings and traditions?

Sure. God gets all of the blame and none of the credit.

So god is responsible for drowning people at sea? And then there was the flood, where he purposely killed tons of people. Kinda like Hitler.

If that is how you want to see it.

Just stating facts.

 

[ding]

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

View attachment 119718

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

View attachment 119719

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

SEA OF GALILEE - What's special about the Sea of Galilee? Why does it have sudden storms? • KidExplorers.com / ChristianAnswers.Net

More Than a Fisherman

So the setting for this account is valid. In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

Nice analogy and allegory, ding

When people try to blame all manner of evil on Christianity and religion, for abusing power to commit mass genocide and other wrongs,
I also compare it to water and the ocean:

Sure, one could blame WATER and NATURE for the destructive TSUNAMIS and FLOODS that destroy lives and everything in their paths.

However, the same forces of nature and the role that WATER plays
ALSO BRING LIFE that DEPENDS on water to survive.

So how can you only look at the DESTRUCTION causes by Water and forces of nature running far out of control where they KILL masses of people.

And not also consider the GIFT of life that water and nature provide?

Can we look at religion the same way: as much destruction and suffering as it causes when extreme conditions reel out of control,
what about the greater good from religious teachings and traditions?

Sure. God gets all of the blame and none of the credit.

So god is responsible for drowning people at sea? And then there was the flood, where he purposely killed tons of people. Kinda like Hitler.

If that is how you want to see it.

Just stating facts.

I am glad you admit the Bible is factual.

 

[Mudda]

Nice analogy and allegory, ding

When people try to blame all manner of evil on Christianity and religion, for abusing power to commit mass genocide and other wrongs,
I also compare it to water and the ocean:

Sure, one could blame WATER and NATURE for the destructive TSUNAMIS and FLOODS that destroy lives and everything in their paths.

However, the same forces of nature and the role that WATER plays
ALSO BRING LIFE that DEPENDS on water to survive.

So how can you only look at the DESTRUCTION causes by Water and forces of nature running far out of control where they KILL masses of people.

And not also consider the GIFT of life that water and nature provide?

Can we look at religion the same way: as much destruction and suffering as it causes when extreme conditions reel out of control,
what about the greater good from religious teachings and traditions?

Sure. God gets all of the blame and none of the credit.

So god is responsible for drowning people at sea? And then there was the flood, where he purposely killed tons of people. Kinda like Hitler.

If that is how you want to see it.

Just stating facts.

I am glad you admit the Bible is factual.

Sure, which makes god a murderer and a homo.

 

[ding]

Sure. God gets all of the blame and none of the credit.

So god is responsible for drowning people at sea? And then there was the flood, where he purposely killed tons of people. Kinda like Hitler.

If that is how you want to see it.

Just stating facts.

I am glad you admit the Bible is factual.

Sure, which makes god a murderer and a homo.

Ill let you explain that's to him

 

[Mudda]

So god is responsible for drowning people at sea? And then there was the flood, where he purposely killed tons of people. Kinda like Hitler.

If that is how you want to see it.

Just stating facts.

I am glad you admit the Bible is factual.

Sure, which makes god a murderer and a homo.

Ill let you explain that's to him

It's what it says in the bible so he should already know.

 

[ding]

If that is how you want to see it.

Just stating facts.

I am glad you admit the Bible is factual.

Sure, which makes god a murderer and a homo.

Ill let you explain that's to him

It's what it says in the bible so he should already know.

See previous reply.

 

[Mudda]

Just stating facts.

I am glad you admit the Bible is factual.

Sure, which makes god a murderer and a homo.

Ill let you explain that's to him

It's what it says in the bible so he should already know.

See previous reply.

Why? He doesn't already know how I feel?