Zone1 How do you want the government to spend your taxes?

What do you want the government to do with the taxes you pay this year?

  • Use my money to provide constitutionally authorized services to all Americans.

  • Use my money to provide necessary services authorized by Congress for all Americans.

  • Use my money to further social causes that I may or may not agree with.

  • Use my money to promote the ideology I embrace.

  • Use my money to fund a transgender comic book for Peru (or similar projects)

  • Use my money to benefit specially targeted groups in America.

  • Use my money to benefit specially targeted groups around the world.

  • Other and I'll explain in my post.


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I'll aways maintain , as I always have, that so-called ''moderates'' are the single biggest threat to the cause of liberty in America today in so far as political factions alone go.

That demograph, historically speaking, and quite observably, if we really pay attention to what they say, play both sides of the fence and seem content with just about all of the anti-liberty legislation coming from both sides of the party of one.
 
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A relevant copypasta from a great book in which the topic is briefly discussed...


The "General Welfare" in Relation to the Constitution

8. The Preamble of the United States Constitution specifies"the general Welfare" merely as one of the listed goals to be served by the Federal government in the exercise of the limited powers delegated to it, as enumerated in the body of that instrument. This mention of "the general Welfare" in the Preamble was intended, therefore, to serve in effect as a limit on the use of those delegated powers. The Preamble does not constitute a grant of any power whatever to the government.

The only other mention of the words "general welfare" in the Constitution is in the Taxing Clause (Article I, Section 8) which authorizes Congress to collect taxes ". . . to pay the Debts andprovide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States . . ." Here, too, the words "general Welfare" were designed to serve as a limitation in effect--as a limit on thepower granted under that clause. This excludes any power to tax and spend for all purposes which would not qualify as being for the "general Welfare of the United States" as a whole--for instance, it is excluded if for the benefit merely of a locality or some Individuals in the United States. The clause does not empower Congress to spend tax monies for any and every purpose it might select merely on the pretense, or even in the belief, that it is for the "general welfare." Congress possesses no"general legislative authority," as Hamilton stated in TheFederalist number 83.


Hamilton's Opinion

9. All of those who framed and ratified the Constitution were in agreement on this point of the limited and limiting meaning of the words "general Welfare" in the Taxing Clause. As Secretary of the Treasury, Hamilton contended for the first time in 1791("Opinion as to the Constitutionality of the Bank of the United States") in favor of a broader interpretation of this clause than he had formerly espoused and broader than that which Madison - with Hamilton's silent acquiescence--had presented in 1788 in The Federalist (especially number 41) as reflectingthe controlling intent of the Framing Convention, which Madison and Jefferson consistently supported. Hamilton did not claim, however, that this clause gives to the Federal government any power, through taxing-spending, so as in effect to control directly or indirectly anything or anybody, or any activities of the people or of the State governments. Despite his assertion that this clause gives Congress a separate and substantive spending power, Hamilton cautioned expressly (Report on "Manufactures," 1791) that it only authorizes taxing and spending within the limits of what would serve the "general welfare" and does not imply a power to do whatever else should appear to Congress conducive to the "general welfare"--that it does "not carry a power to do anyother thing not authorized in the Constitution, either expressly or by fair implication."


The Supreme Court's 1936 Decision Ascertaining andDefining the Original, Controlling Intent

10. As the Supreme Court decided (1936 Carter case) inascertaining and defining the original, controlling intent of the Constitution as proved by all pertinent records and confirming its prior decisions over the generations since the adoption of the Constitution, the contentions advanced from time to time that "Congress, entirely apart from those powers delegated by the Constitution, may enact laws to promote the general welfare, have never been accepted but always definitely rejected by this court." It also decided that the Framing Convention "made no grant of authority to Congress to legislate substantively for the general welfare . . . [citing 1936 Butler case] . . . and no such authority exists, save as the general welfare may be promoted by the exercise of the powers which are granted." The American people have neve ramended the Constitution so as to change the limited and limiting meaning of the words "general Welfare" in the Taxing Clause, as thus originally intended by The Framers and Adopters in 1787-1788.


The Founders' Warnings

11. As Jefferson warned many times in his writings, public and private--for instance in the Kentucky Resolution--in keeping with the traditional American philosophy, strict enforcement ofthe Constitution's limits on the Federal government's power is essential for the protection of the people's liberties. This point was stressed at great length in The Federalist (notablynumbers 17, 28, 33 and 78 by Hamilton and 44 and 46 by Madison) in reporting and explaining the intent of the Framing Convention expressed in the Constitution--as was understood and accepted by the State Ratifying Conventions. Hamilton's repeated warnings against permitting public servants to flout the people's mandate as to the limits on government's power, as specified in their basic laws (Constitutions) creating their governments, were in keeping with his words on one occasion in relation to the New York State Constitution. He stated ("Letters of Phocion," 1784) that any such defiance, by publicservants, of the Constitution would be "a treasonable usurpation upon the power and majesty of the people . . ."Washington's Farewell Address expressed the conviction of The Founders of the Republic and their fellow leaders, in keeping with history's lesson, when he warned that usurpation "is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed."
Good job!!! The leftists won't read that but I think many on the right do have at least a rudimentary grasp of the Founder's intent even if they haven't studied the founding documents. I think a majority on our current Supreme Court also are constitutionalists with a strong sense of original intent. That is why they reversed Roe, not because they were imposing pro life ideology on anybody, but because it overstepped the authority given to the high court. Justice Thomas for the same reason suggested that sooner or later same sex marriage would be revisited. Not because he personally opposed same sex marriage but authority was not given to the high court to regulate marriage period.

If we could roll back the process and understanding to something much much closer to the Founders intent, we would have a whole lot less grief re federal government authority, processes, policies, actions.

By the way, did you vote in the poll :)
 
After a friendly and pleasant debate on Facebook about loving our neighbor and all those in need are our neighbor wherever they are vs the Bible instructs us to provide for our own family first and that includes a stipulation that if you see your neighbor is in need you should help your neighbor. And that naturally translates into whether we can transfer our responsibility to our family and neighbor for the government to do.

Can we feel righteous if our tax dollars go elsewhere in the world when our neighbor is in need right here in America but we do not have the resources to help a great deal?

Multiple choices are allowed in the poll and you can change your vote.
I want the government to defend our nation against enemies, foreign and domestic, and that means a strong military and a strong border.

That would include prosecuting judges who work against America’s interests - such as the judge who tried to return a planeload of foreign criminal aliens to our shores - and revoking the visas of non-citizens here at our invitation when they incite violence against our citizens or in any way support terrorism - such as the HAMAS supporter from Syrian endangering the safety of Jewish kids.
 
How do I want the government to spend my taxes? As a chicken, where do I want the fox to start when he eats me up?
 
Beef up social security and medicare. Put more $ into them. Cut the dept of commerce way down.
 
I want the government to defend our nation against enemies, foreign and domestic, and that means a strong military and a strong border.

That would include prosecuting judges who work against America’s interests - such as the judge who tried to return a planeload of foreign criminal aliens to our shores - and revoking the visas of non-citizens here at our invitation when they incite violence against our citizens or in any way support terrorism - such as the HAMAS supporter from Syrian endangering the safety of Jewish kids.
For sure there is no virtue or righteousness in sending the taxpayers' money to foreign lands when the neighbors right before us are in need whatever resources are needed. That is hugely more true when that taxpayer money is just sent to allow us to feel righteous but does little or nothing to help most people in need and/or when there is little or no accountability for how that money is used.
 
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