How do you balance the budget without

[ThisIsMe]

You think this is the way to fix the problem?

what were we doing before? Seems like nothing. Everyone else was just happy to let it keep going.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

what were we doing before? Seems like nothing. Everyone else was just happy to let it keep going.

I asked you a question. Answer it. The above is not an answer.

 

[kyzr]

How do you balance the budget when you give tax cuts to the rich to the tune of $5 trillion?

We finally agree on something.
If the senate raises the top rate to 40% as Trump wants, that would raise $500b a year and balance the budget.
So you agree with Trump?

Higher taxes on millionaires? Trump says he's open, but many in his party are not

Why not tax the millionaires? That question won't seem to go away as Congress begins drafting a package of tax breaks and spending cuts for President Donald Trump’s “big, beautiful bill."

apnews.com

 

[TimFitz]

The poor don't pay income tax. No tax on tips, OT, or on SS helps the working poor.
Tariffs cut into China's cash, corporations fund science, real science.
Medicaid isn't gutted, only the ineligible are removed.
Space mining may happen after we figure out how to do it as cheaply as on Earth.

Trump’s scheme sharply limits the tips deduction.

There is NO break regarding tax on SS.

 

[kyzr]

Trump’s scheme sharply limits the tips deduction.
There is NO break regarding tax on SS.

Yeah okay smartypants. I'll take the "temporary enhanced deduction".

"The recent tax plan, known as the "Big Beautiful Bill," does not eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits, despite previous promises. Instead, it includes a temporary enhanced deduction for seniors but maintains the existing tax on Social Security income."

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We finally agree on something.
If the senate raises the top rate to 40% as Trump wants, that would raise $500b a year and balance the budget.
So you agree with Trump?

Higher taxes on millionaires? Trump says he's open, but many in his party are not

Why not tax the millionaires? That question won't seem to go away as Congress begins drafting a package of tax breaks and spending cuts for President Donald Trump’s “big, beautiful bill."

apnews.com

Sure, if what he is saying is so.

 

[TimFitz]

1. When you subsidize the poor, any efforts to cut those subsidies and ask them to rely on themselves is seen as "attacking" them.

2. Science doesn't necessarily need money. It evolved quite well before the concept of funding it was invented.

3. Medicaid? Nobody is stripping any well-meaning American citizen of Medicaid, it is being taken away from illegal immigrants, who don't deserve any benefits a legal citizen enjoys.

Anything else?

Nonsense from top to bottom.

Cut aid to the poor and they are being attacked.

Government investment in science is a strategic resource in a technological age. Abandoning it weakens America and is a path to becoming second rate.

Medicaid is being ripped from a lot of well meaning Americans will suffer. The ranks of the uninsured will swell by seven million, reversing the trend set by the A.C.A.

illegals have nothing to do with it.

 

[Highlight]

How do you balance the budget without
-Attacking the poor
-Cutting the fuck out of science and handing our leadership to china
-Gutting mediaid that helps millions of people including old in nursing homes.
on and on.

I say the only way is space colonization and mining of the resources of space. We'll have to double or triple the size of our economy at a minimum. We can only do this with the ability to expand our resources and ability to control industries. Space.

You tax the wealthy, moron.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I asked you a question. Answer it. The above is not an answer.

I think the answer was evident. From the last few posts. I'll summarize. I don't like the idea of tariffs, but considering that, without us trying to even the field, things would have kept going as they have been for decades, with America getting the short end of the stick, we need to do something.

Our producers do not have equal access to foreign markets, yet we welcome them wire open arms. That's not fair to our exporters.

Isn't that the answer you were looking for?

 

[Lesh]

How do you balance the budget without
-Attacking the poor
-Cutting the fuck out of science and handing our leadership to china
-Gutting mediaid that helps millions of people including old in nursing homes.
on and on.

I say the only way is space colonization and mining of the resources of space. We'll have to double or triple the size of our economy at a minimum. We can only do this with the ability to expand our resources and ability to control industries. Space.

Simply put

You don’t


A balanced budget is a unicorn

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I think the answer was evident. From the last few posts. I'll summarize. I don't like the idea of tariffs, but considering that, without us trying to even the field, things would have kept going as they have been for decades, with America getting the short end of the stick, we need to do something.

Our producers do not have equal access to foreign markets, yet we welcome them wire open arms. That's not fair to our exporters.

Isn't that the answer you were looking for?

Thank you. You don't understand just how well we have done for decades.

Now we have dementia old geezer stumbling around weaking the global economy.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Thank you. You don't understand just how well we have done for decades.

Now we have dementia old geezer stumbling around weaking the global economy.

Have we done well for decades? Or have we just gotten used to being screwed over all the time that it just feels normal?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We have done quite well. And don't dodge that we have a dodgy old geezer in demential ruinging the global economy.

Thank you. You don't understand just how well we have done for decades.

Now we have dementia old geezer stumbling around weaking the global economy.

ThisIsMe: Have we done well for decades? Or have we just gotten used to being screwed over all the time that it just feels normal?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Cut aid to the poor and they are being attacked.

Telling them they cannot prosper without government is an attack, doofus. Saying there is no other route to prosperity except through government is an attack.

All you need to make a slave these days is to give them money and say that those who want to take it from you for your betterment are your enemies.

Government investment in science is a strategic resource in a technological age. Abandoning it weakens America and is a path to becoming second rate.

Nobody said anything about abandoning it. I simply said science and innovation got along pretty well before the concept was invented. You don't necessarily need money to have curiosity.

Medicaid is being ripped from a lot of well meaning Americans will suffer. The ranks of the uninsured will swell by seven million, reversing the trend set by the A.C.A.

Did you read the bill, or are you peddling fear? Go read the Medicaid part of the bill before you peddle garbage.

illegals have nothing to do with it.

Yes, yes they do. And you didn't prove this claim either. I invite you to go ahead and try.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

TimFitz owns this thread.

 

[TimFitz]

Simply put

You don’t


A balanced budget is a unicorn

Bill Clinton did it.

It took several years, but he bequeathed a budget surplus to George Bush, who promptly squandered it.

Of course, a balanced budget IS a unicorn when it is presided over by a crooked and flagrantly corrupt real estate developer who is selling out the United States for his own personal gain.