How do you feel about Israel's new "request" for more money?

[Churchill]

Muslims kill each other Iran killed 30,000 of its people and Hamas murders Gazans

This is the true face of Zionism, terrorist, murderous, intolerant, fanatical, violent not the "pretend we are the victims" silliness that some people love to peddle.

 

[Eman623]

When an exclusive group invades a place where millions are living and expels them then why on earth are you surprised at a violent reaction to that? Do people subject to invasion not have a right to resist said invasion?

Arguably true. Of course by that logic, Native American would be morally justified to kill you and take the land your ancestors stole back.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Maybe we should just pay everyone to buy things?

I'm guessing you didn't think though that comment ? The US government spends more tax payer money on entitlement programs than we do anything else.

 

[Churchill]

Hafar1014

Here's a little more for you, clearly your education on this subject is a bit narrow, here's some examples of terrorist Jews killing Jews:

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Arguably true. Of course by that logic, Native American would be morally justified to kill you and take the land your ancestors stole back.

And the Ancestors of the Native Americans who stole that land from the Native Americans who stole that land and so on. The Americas was not some peaceful Disney cartoon utopia before Europeans arrived.

 

[pknopp]

I'm guessing you didn't think though that comment ? The US government spends more tax payer money on entitlement programs than we do anything else.

I thought it through......do we pay the poor here in the USA to survive?

We do. You know, America first and all.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I thought it through......do we pay the poor here in the USA to survive?

We do. You know, America first and all.

Right, because Government dependency is America first.

 

[Churchill]

Arguably true. Of course by that logic, Native American would be morally justified to kill you and take the land your ancestors stole back.

I agree. But after a few centuries those who are oppressed gradually become pacified, their ability to resist is reduced through policies (as it is with natives in the USA and Australia where alcoholism has been successful at reducing them to subsistence living).

But during the actual invasion, while forced displacement is taking place, killings and so on, I cannot see how they would not have a moral right to violently resist.

 

[pknopp]

Right, because Government dependency is America first.

Taking care of Americans before Israel most certainly is. Millions are losing their health care coverage but Israel will get it's missiles.

 

[Independent thinker]

After all, it is labelled as 'America First'. How can that be bad? Do you think it is in US interests to continue whatever you think is going on over there? It will lead to war, is that what we want? Israel seeking 20-year ‘America-first’ security agreement with US — report

So, you want the terrorists to commit genocide and wipe Israel off the face of the Earth?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

How do you feel about Israel's new "request" for more money?​

Well at least it will be going to a democracy and a great ally, and will only cost about 1/2 as much over 20 years as the autocrat was/has been skinning us for already...in that respect it actually feels like a win for America.

 

[the watcher]

I don't think we should sponsor genocide no matter what fucked up reason we can come up with.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I don't think we should sponsor genocide no matter what fucked up reason we can come up with.

I don't think football is better than baseball or hockey...this thread certainly does have range

 

[alang1216]

Israel's nominal GDP is approximately $540–$580 billion as of early 2026, ranking it among the top 30 economies worldwide. So, yes, they don't need US aid. And no, cutting aid to Israel wouldn't change anything.

US aid to Israel should be viewed in the wider context of US aid to it's "allies" in the middle east. If you can't figure out why that's important let me know.
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U.S. Aid to Israel in Four Charts | Council on Foreign Relations

Israel has long been the leading recipient of U.S. foreign aid, including military assistance. That aid has come under heightened scrutiny over the course of Israel’s conflicts with Hamas and Iran.

www.cfr.org

You're confusing arms imports with aid. We sell arms to Saudi Arabia, we give arms to Israel. There is a difference.

 

[alang1216]

Their neighbors want to drive them into the sea. You can't make peace with such people.

Until you do:

Israel has signed formal peace treaties or normalization agreements with several Arab countries, beginning in 1979.

Major Peace Treaties


Egypt
(1979): The first Arab state to make peace with Israel, following the 1978 Camp David Accords. Israel withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula in exchange for full diplomatic recognition.

Jordan
(1994): The Israel–Jordan peace treaty ended decades of hostility, establishing border security, water-sharing arrangements, and diplomatic relations.


The Abraham Accords (2020)
Mediated by the United States, these agreements normalized relations with several Muslim-majority and Arab nations:


United Arab Emirates (UAE)
: Established full diplomatic ties, tourism, and free trade.

Bahrain
: Signed a declaration of peace alongside the
UAE
in September 2020.

Morocco
: Re-established ties in December 2020 in exchange for U.S. recognition of Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara.

Sudan
: Signed a normalization agreement in late 2020; however, full ratification has been delayed by internal political instability.

 

[alang1216]

What?! Israel has made more than one offer of peace, and the Arabs have always turned them down. Why don’t you come crashing down on the Islamists and demand THEY seek peace, instead of trying to drive Israel into the sea?

We did demand they make peace with Israel and they did. Obviously that is not enough so where will the goal posts be moved next?

 

[ding]

You're confusing arms imports with aid. We sell arms to Saudi Arabia, we give arms to Israel. There is a difference.

Yes, this graphic is arms imports.

This graphic is aid which was in the link I provided.

I don't see how it changes my point. Maybe you can explain how you think it does?

 

[the watcher]

I don't think football is better than baseball or hockey...this thread certainly does have range

someone asked a question, I answered it.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

someone asked a question, I answered it.

I'm good with that, what do you think of soccer?

 

[Churchill]

I'm good with that, what do you think of soccer?

You mean football?