How do we fix our problems as a nation?

[TheBrain]

That has less to do with anything that the morons who rallied to capitalism and 18h-century British Free Trade.

We need to go back to rejecting capitalism and embracing Social Democracy.

I'd certainly nationalize the oil industry. .

There you go, You are a fucking communist. So of course the 4th and 5th amendments are irrelevant to you.

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Good grief, that comment really isn't worth commenting on.

 

[TheBrain]

That has less to do with anything that the morons who rallied to capitalism and 18h-century British Free Trade.

We need to go back to rejecting capitalism and embracing Social Democracy.

I'd certainly nationalize the oil industry. Here where I live the utilities are regulated by the state and as a result our energy costs are pretty reasonable. I reject the notion that it is okay for an oil company to make a $3B profit in one year as Americans struggle to afford a tank of gas.

There is a fine line between capitalism and socialism that must be met in a country as big as our in order to have a healthy economy.

Socialism is not a system. It is a stage of development.

There's no such system as 'socialism'.

I advocate a decentralized federation/confederation of semi-antonymous member States working together under a system resembling social democracy.

What you say is of course technically correct. I was simply using the commonly accepted terms to explain myself.

 

[JBeukema]

We start by ignoring the Fed and running our communities and States as we will when they trample on our freedoms.

Direct action, not pleading with our oppressors, is what will bring immediate and meaningful change.

 

[JBeukema]

Direct action - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Contumacious]

. Only then will we have statesmen in political office rather than the political prostitutes we have now. .

Wouldn't it be easier to RESTORE the ENFORCE the Constitution (1787)?!?!?!?

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[JBeukema]

. Only then will we have statesmen in political office rather than the political prostitutes we have now. .

Wouldn't it be easier to RESTORE the ENFORCE the Constitution (1787)?!?!?!?

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Your plan to force the political elite to listen?

 

[Tank]

Hey while you guys have been playing grab ass on here, a bunch of beaners just snuck into America.

Stupid bitches

 

[TheBrain]

We start by ignoring the Fed and running our communities and States as we will when they trample on our freedoms.

Direct action, not pleading with our oppressors, is what will bring immediate and meaningful change.

Two things wrong with that theory.

1) What you suggest in unconstitutional. The 10th Amendment makes it very clear that federal law supersedes state law. Now of course I realize we could argue all day long about where the federal government is overstepping their authority but the simple fact is that unless the SCOTUS rules that they have overstepped , which has happened, they have not. So you are stuck with states have to follow federal law.

2) I think we all realize that if you let each state just go their own way, then instead of having one Congress and one White House full of assholes who don't give a shit about our wants and having too much power , we would have 50 such houses. Meaning we would solve nothing.

 

[Avorysuds]

Hey while you guys have been playing grab ass on here, a bunch of beaners just snuck into America.

Stupid bitches

What's wrong with you man?

 

[TheBrain]

Hey while you guys have been playing grab ass on here, a bunch of beaners just snuck into America.

Stupid bitches

Ship all racists to their own island.

How you like them apples?

 

[JBeukema]

The real question is this: How is the American Proletariat to enforce the will? How can the political elites of today, the modern plutocracy, be subjected to the mighty will of the conscious masses?

 

[Tank]

Make sure the list of how to "fix our problems as a nation" is written in spanish so that the people who are taking over America can read it.

 

[Contumacious]

I'd certainly nationalize the oil industry. .

There you go, You are a fucking communist. So of course the 4th and 5th amendments are irrelevant to you.

.

Good grief, that comment really isn't worth commenting on.

Why, because it may tend to incriminate you? Or, worse, you actually believe that nationalizing an industry is not communistic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another victim of government managed/financed "education".

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[TheBrain]

The real question is this: How is the American Proletariat to enforce the will? How can the political elites of today, the modern plutocracy be subjected to the mighty will of the conscious masses?

Here's a few options.

1. Outlaw donations to political parties, in favor of donations to a election fund with equal funding going to all national candidates who make a ballot.

2. Outlaw all lobbies

3. Send all members of Congress back to their home states where they can do the People's Business via teleconference rather than being insulated in Washington DC and surrounded by like minded crooks all day every day.

 

[JBeukema]

We start by ignoring the Fed and running our communities and States as we will when they trample on our freedoms.

Direct action, not pleading with our oppressors, is what will bring immediate and meaningful change.

Two things wrong with that theory.

1) What you suggest in unconstitutional.

1) No it's not. COTUS doesn't grant them limitless authority. There is a serious disconnect between their constitutional authority and their power today.

2) COTUS, like the Articles of Association and Articles of Confederation before it, is only valid so long as the People say so. If we decide we're done with this system, it ceases to be legitimate and any attempt by the State to continue to subject us to it is rightfully met with full resistance.

The 10th Amendment makes it very clear that federal law supersedes state law.

Wrong. Only in those few areas where the Fed is given authority to rule over the States.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Where the Devil get you manage to get that totally reversed?

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2) I think we all realize that if you let each state just go their own way, then instead of having one Congress and one White House full of assholes who don't give a shit about our wants and having too much power , we would have 50 such houses. Meaning we would solve nothing.

The more local the system of governance, the more easily the People can enforce their will through it or, if need be, tear it apart and rebuild it altogether.
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[Contumacious]

That has less to do with anything that the morons who rallied to capitalism and 18h-century British Free Trade.

We need to go back to rejecting capitalism and embracing Social Democracy.

I'd certainly nationalize the oil industry. Here where I live the utilities are regulated by the state and as a result our energy costs are pretty reasonable. I reject the notion that it is okay for an oil company to make a $3B profit in one year as Americans struggle to afford a tank of gas.

There is a fine line between capitalism and socialism that must be met in a country as big as our in order to have a healthy economy.

Socialism is not a system. It is a stage of development.

As is a comatose state.

The zombified never cease to amaze me.

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[TheBrain]

There you go, You are a fucking communist. So of course the 4th and 5th amendments are irrelevant to you.

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Good grief, that comment really isn't worth commenting on.

Why, because it may tend to incriminate you? Or, worse, you actually believe that nationalizing an industry is not communistic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another victim of government managed/financed "education".

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Incriminate me? Now see here Senator McCarthy, being a communist is in fact not illegal in this country. Not that I am one, but the point stands that it is not illegal.

Oh, and nationalizing an industry is NOT communism, and in fact many industries in our nation are already nationalized which does not necessarily mean the government RUNS them, it could mean that they merely cap the prices in that industry, which is clearly all I advocate.

 

[Contumacious]

. Only then will we have statesmen in political office rather than the political prostitutes we have now. .

Wouldn't it be easier to RESTORE the ENFORCE the Constitution (1787)?!?!?!?

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Your plan to force the political elite to listen?

........the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


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[JBeukema]

 

[JamesInFlorida]

End all the wars we're currently in.

Adopt an isolationist view on foreign policy. We should only go to war if we've been attacked (or an ally), or we're under immediate severe danger. We need to start minding our own business-it's cheaper, and is better for us as well.

Reform (but not totally get rid of) Unemployment pay and welfare. Some people really need them-too many are abusing them. Crack down on the abusers with stiff penalties.

Raise taxes on the richest 5-10% temporarily-until we can get out of our debt. And before people jump all over me-this would raise my taxes.

Give tax breaks to companies for keeping jobs in the US, instead of outsourcing them (not really sure how to actually implement this in all honesty-just think it's a good idea).

End oil company subsidies.

End the war on marijuana-we spend way too much money on cracking down on something that's not as bad as tobacco or alcohol.



On a non-economic level:

Follow the constitution more closely. Specifically the bill of rights, and restore the rights that have been slowly taken away from us over the past couple decades.

End abortion.

Cut back on number of people on death row, by making stricter qualifications to get there. But still using it for those who've committed the most brutal crimes-and have DNA evidence against them.

Legalize gay marriage.

No national offshore drilling implementation-I think this should be a state issue, and should be voted on by the citizens of the state in question.

Just off the top of my head.

Good list, but do you mean "end Abortion" or no Government funding it? I also dono about raising taxes on the rich as you might not mind but Others will. I just don't see the revenue from higher taxes on the rich panning out like some want it to, they will hide and shift their money and shrink their business’s, that's just reality.

Well first of all I meant end abortion-as in make it illegal. I'm mainly a social liberal, but not on that issue. But it's not a huge issue for me.

My views on taxes is this: the tax cuts don't create new jobs-just because they have a more money in their pocket doesn't mean they'll create jobs. Business owners obviously want to make as much money as possible (and there's nothing wrong with that), but the idea that the more money they have-the more jobs they create just doesn't always add up.

I think the middle class, and lower class cannot afford to sacrifice any more financially towards the government revenue-and that's why I think it has to be the wealthiest. But only temporarily-until the budget is balanced, once it is you can use the excess income to lower the taxes of the wealthiest back down.

Anybody who's taxes go up due to making too much money (and are business owners), isn't going to purposely shrink the size/income of their business just so they can make less money. That would be incredibly illogical for someone to do so.