How About We Elect Our Presidents By Popular Vote?

[Bernhard]

Depends if you believe that the vote of a toothless retarded uneducated moron from the countryside should count more than the vote of a somewhat educated person in a city.

If you believe yes, toothless retarded uneducated morons are not equal before the law, but better than other people, then leave the system as it is.

 

[BluesLegend]

I see some poor sap is triggered.

I bitch slapped you, naturally you could not defend the lie you told so you went into left wing troll mode.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Wooosh, senators are not elected by electoral college

Good grief

Like duh! Is that really what you read? Good grief and Whoosh to you!

 

[JLW]

I bitch slapped you, naturally you could not defend the lie you told so you went into left wing troll mode.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Seems many on the right here think they shouldn't have to be bothered with convincing urban folk to vote for their causes and candidates because they live closer together. A snobbish sort of loser approach to winning elections.

 

[GMCGeneral]

You’re really just saying that your ideas suck and the majority don’t want them. Both parties have equal opportunity to persuade voters to vote for them. Stop being a loser and come up with better ideas other than stupid voter suppression and abortion nonsense.

No, I am really saying get off the crackpipe and turn off the far Left lamestream media you call "objective" Each and every one of those urban sewers have one thing in common: They're ruled by DEMOCRATS, and have been for decades. You really think that by trashing the EC that their party machines are going to allow any opposition party in?

 

[BlindBoo]

People are not threatened to lose their jobs. People are not told they can't go to footballs games, etc.

I was not allowed to attend school without the getting the mandated vaccines over 50 years ago.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Like duh! Is that really what you read? Good grief and Whoosh to you!

If anything, Senators SHOULD be appointed by their State Legislatures, as it should be.

 

[Independentthinker]

I was not allowed to attend school without the getting the mandated vaccines over 50 years ago.

People are not threatened to lose their jobs. People are not told they can't go to footballs games, etc.

 

[j-mac]

Seems many on the right here think they shouldn't have to be bothered with convincing urban folk to vote for their causes and candidates because they live closer together. A snobbish sort of loser approach to winning elections.

The truth is that Liberals can't win elections if they were to tell the truth about what they really envision for the country. We are seeing some of it surface now with the outright fascism promoted by our government...Direct Democracy is a bad mistake. I agree with those in here whom have said it leads to more fascism, and increasing power to cities within states, instead of everyone having a vote...Don't blame Republican's that the only way you libs can win is to cheat...

 

[j-mac]

People are not threatened to lose their jobs. People are not told they can't go to footballs games, etc.

No, just show us your papers....

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

The Interstate Compact is a load of shit, you know.

If the Republicans won the popular vote do you really think that California and New York electors would honor their commitment to stab the Democrats in the back and vote against what their own voters wanted? The "pact" like so much of liberalism is unenforceable and thus useless.

I hope you are correct, but many states including California have laws on the books stating they would do just that.

The Constitution allows states to determine how they will award their electoral votes, and the state legislatures define that with their laws. A couple of states split their electoral votes proportionately based on the state results. Some states do not even require by law that their delegates award the votes consistent with the result of the election (but they almost always do).

So when you say that it is a load of crap, I assume that you mean it would not pass Constitutional muster if taken to the SCOTUS, which it almost undoubtedly would. The SCOTUS decision would, of course, depend upon the makeup of the Supreme Court at the time.

Regards,
Jim

 

[BrokeLoser]

Depends if you believe that the vote of a toothless retarded uneducated moron from the countryside should count more than the vote of a somewhat educated person in a city.

If you believe yes, toothless retarded uneducated morons are not equal before the law, but better than other people, then leave the system as it is.

What about barely legal brown pieces of worthless dogshit here on stolen citizenships...should they decide our elections?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No, I am really saying get off the crackpipe and turn off the far Left lamestream media you call "objective" Each and every one of those urban sewers have one thing in common: They're ruled by DEMOCRATS, and have been for decades. You really think that by trashing the EC that their party machines are going to allow any opposition party in?

“Objectively”, both parties have equal opportunity to persuade voters to support them. All other argument is loser whinery.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What about barely legal brown pieces of worthless dogshit here on stolen citizenships...should they decide our elections?

Wait till they put you in camps.

 

[GMCGeneral]

“Objectively”, both parties have equal opportunity to persuade voters to support them. All other argument is loser whinery.

Not in the cities they don't. With the Democrat party being the ONLY ruling party within these ghetto trash war zones you would think their party machines would want to force their agenda on the rest of the country, dumbass.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Wrong. Becoming mayor of big cities really is possible for Republicans and Independents mustering that "can do" spirit.

 

[colfax_m]

If anything, Senators SHOULD be appointed by their State Legislatures, as it should be.

That’s right! We need to give MORE power to the ruling elites and LESS power to the citizens.

 

[imawhosure]

What about barely legal brown pieces of worthless dogshit here on stolen citizenships...should they decide our elections?

Leftists want to obfuscate the issue on EC votes and do it bassackwards to make their point. TRUTH is, to get states to join the union, these states got 2 senators, and 2 EC votes. They had to get to a certain population to get a 3rd EC vote, and that affected their House of Reps amount also. The 3rd EC vote was the same for every state, but they could only have 2 senators. It is exactly why Leftists always bring up Montana with their 2 EC votes and Senators, then try an extrapolate that down to how many they should have by their population.

The point is...............to change it goes back on the compact that the feds made with all states to join the union. To do so would be like saying California gets 9 or 10 Senators, Montana gets 0, or 1. Because states rights were viewed as the most important thing in forming our union, they gave the population areas the will in the House by using population to determine how many you got, but made sure the senate had sway on putting into law, because smaller populated or rural states could ban together to stop the law from passing if it was a detriment to them. To allow this change now would give the populated states total sway on the House, Senate, and Presidency.

So why are the Leftists bringing this up now you ask?

Simple: because people are fleeing blue states, and their EC and House Representation is falling because of it. Add to that the vast majority of Americans belief that voter ID is a good idea for national elections, and 25% or more of their inhabitants of the state could be deemed "non eligible" to vote for President.

While our Leftist friends are very good at spinning a yarn about "fairness" and "equality" on this issue, the fact is, it is only about the best way for them to hold political power. Their other plan is to make DC a state which gives them another 2 Senators. Puerto Rico is also on the agenda, giving them at worst a split there, meaning they will gain 3 senate seats to the GOPs 1, best case scenario.

Now you would think I would be totally AGAINST this, wouldn't you. But, we could agree on that path IF there was financial considerations, and the States who did not want it, had a one time vote allowed to leave the union since the original compact for why they originally joined was broken. Can't change the rules in the middle of the gm Leftists.

I contend that at least 10 to 12 states would choose to leave, and most of them are the breadbasket of the current US. Let them import rice from China, or make cornfields on their asphalt streets. Fine by me. Within 5 or 10 years, they would be el broko, and their citizens would want to escape them and come to us, lol. And you know what else would become instantly a fact! If a break up was to happen, the Leftists would instantly shift gears and not want illegals crossing the border. They wouldn't need them anymore, to try and win elections.

Anyway, I think if we have a reasonably fair election in 2022, the Leftists are OUT! Lets just make sure we elect real conservatives, and not RINOS.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Wrong. Becoming mayor of big cities really is possible for Republicans and Independents mustering that "can do" spirit.

So you completely ignore the Democrat party machines that have been entrenched in these urban wastelands for decades, huh? they won't give up their power.