House Republicans ‘May Dig Their Own Grave’ With Fringe Political Investigations

[berg80]

progs love their documents. 60 years ago, we had the war on poverty spending countless trillions of dollars. And I see commercials for children going to bed hungry today because of you evil selfish demonic creatures.

Would you mind substantiating that "countless trillions" figure. Thanks.

How the War on Poverty Succeeded (in Four Charts)

Measuring poverty properly, as is only now being done, reveals that it has fallen pretty dramatically since the mid-nineteen-sixties.

www.newyorker.com

 

[struth]

Our conditional withdrawal was conditional on the Taliban meeting their obligations, not us meeting ours. Benedict Donald withdrew any leverage we had when he did withdrew 80% of our forces and abandoned 5 military bases. 2,500 was the minimum they needed to continue operations supporting the Afghan Army. They had to re-deploy thousands of troops to complete the evacuation.

Trump did what the military recommended...he keep the peace. Xiden ignored the military, surrendered....and then had to REDEPLOY troops because of his blunder....earning the comtempt of our allies, and leaving Americans behind. All the military wanted Xiden to do was keep the 2500 that Trump had there. He ignored them...Xiden lied, people died.

You are truly a cultist the way you spin this.

LATEST NEWS

UK Parliament Holds Biden in Contempt for Afghanistan Withdrawal​

UK Parliament Holds Biden in Contempt for Afghanistan Withdrawal

The United Kingdom's Parliament on Wednesday held President Joe Biden in contempt for his withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan, calling the move "catastrophic" and "shameful."

freebeacon.com

Top generals contradict Biden, say they urged him not to withdraw from Afghanistan​

Gen. Frank McKenzie said that he recommended maintaining a small force of 2,500 troops in Afghanistan earlier this year.

Top generals contradict Biden, say they urged him not to withdraw from Afghanistan

Gen. Frank McKenzie said that he recommended maintaining a small force of 2,500 troops in Afghanistan earlier this year.

www.politico.com

Fact Check: Military testimony on Afghanistan appears to contradict Biden’s previous statements on troop level​

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/28/politics/afghanistan-biden-testimony-contradiction-fact-check/index.html

When asked by ABC’s George Stephanopoulous whether “top military advisers warned against withdrawing on this timeline,” Biden responded, “No, they didn’t.”

To clarify, Stephanopoulous asked, “So no one told – your military advisers did not tell you, ‘No, we should just keep 2,500 troops. It’s been a stable situation for the last several years. We can do that. We can continue to do that’?” To which Biden said, “No one said that to me that I can recall.”

“I won’t share my personal recommendation to the President but I will give you my honest opinion. And my honest opinion and view shaped my recommendation,” McKenzie said. “I recommended that we maintain 2,500 troops in Afghanistan.

 

[berg80]

I think we can all agree that the swiftness with which the Afghan army collapsed was unexpected and played a big role in the chaotic withdrawal.

 

[BlindBoo]

Trying to blame Trump for your Vegetable Messiah's Afghanistan clusterfuck isn't working, Simp.

And you look really stupid for trying.

Why did Benedict Donald not enforce most all of the conditions on the Taliban of the conditional withdrawal before he removed over 10 thousand troops, leaving a skeleton force for the next CiC?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You say that with a straight face, right? After four years of baseless investigations against President Trump that yielded zero. This is intentional trolling, right?

As we know, Republicans aren't smart.

 

[struth]

Would you mind substantiating that "countless trillions" figure. Thanks.

How the War on Poverty Succeeded (in Four Charts)

Measuring poverty properly, as is only now being done, reveals that it has fallen pretty dramatically since the mid-nineteen-sixties.

www.newyorker.com

The War on Poverty After 50 Years

This week, the U.S. Census Bureau is scheduled to release its annual poverty report. The report will be notable because this year marks the 50th anniversary of the launch of President Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty. In his January 1964 State of the Union address, Johnson proclaimed, “This...

www.heritage.org

In his January 1964 State of the Union address, President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed, “This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America.” In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution


WHAT WAS THE POVERTY RATE IN 1964 COMPARED TO TODAY?

 

[struth]

Why did Benedict Donald not enforce most all of the conditions on the Taliban of the conditional withdrawal before he removed over 10 thousand troops, leaving a skeleton force for the next CiC?

Because dumbass....Xiden won the election

 

[BlindBoo]

Trump did what the military recommended.

No he didn't. They warned him not to withdraw troops unless the Taliban made progress on their conditions. They were ignored when troop level reach 8,600. They were ignored after that when we went down to 4,000, and then he ordered the complete withdrawal by Jan 15th after he lost the 2020 election. When the general explained to him what a shit show that would be and he Flip-Flopped, that's the only time he listened and to the military and revised it to 2,500, the minimum they said they needed.

 

[struth]

No he didn't. They warned him not to withdraw troops unless the Taliban made progress on their conditions. They were ignored when troop level reach 8,600. They were ignored after that when we went down to 4,000, and then he ordered the complete withdrawal by Jan 15th after he lost the 2020 election. When the general explained to him what a shit show that would be and he Flip-Flopped, that's the only time he listened and to the military and revised it to 2,500, the minimum they said they needed.

of course he did, they wanted a force of 2500, he had that there and xiden pulled them in the middle of the night.

xiden lied and said they didnt, but the generals were under oath amd told the truth.

xiden lied people died

 

[BlindBoo]

Because dumbass....Xiden won the election

You know the 10 thousand troops we had in place as leverage to get the Taliban to comply, were withdrawn by the time Joe Beat Benedict in the election.

Correct. At election time I beleive it was closer to 4,500......

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Congressional Republicans are not going to be able to do anything without the Senate and the White House, so why not have investigations instead?

Because they are devoid of fact and merit.

What Republicans can do is work with Democrats to address the business of the people.

But instead they'll go down the rabbit hole of revenge investigations.

 

[berg80]

The War on Poverty After 50 Years

This week, the U.S. Census Bureau is scheduled to release its annual poverty report. The report will be notable because this year marks the 50th anniversary of the launch of President Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty. In his January 1964 State of the Union address, Johnson proclaimed, “This...

www.heritage.org

In his January 1964 State of the Union address, President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed, “This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America.” In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution


WHAT WAS THE POVERTY RATE IN 1964 COMPARED TO TODAY?

The Heritage Foundation? Hmmmmmmmm. Here's an article contradicting numbers from conservatives in 2014.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/paul-ryans-claim-that-15-trillion-has-been-spent-on-the-war-on-poverty/2013/08/01/b2599058-faf9-11e2-a369-d1954abcb7e3_blog.html

 

[BlindBoo]

of course he did, they wanted a force of 2500, he had that there and xiden pulled them in the middle of the night.

xiden lied and said they didnt, but the generals were under oath amd told the truth.

xiden lied people died

Oh you mean after he initially ignored their advice to not remove the bulk of our forces before the Taliban met their conditions. You know that so called conditional withdrawal.

Also, under oath they did not say that and they were asked in several different ways.

They also said they planned every aspect of the evacuation after the decision was made by the president.

 

[Nostra]

Our conditional withdrawal was conditional on the Taliban meeting their obligations, not us meeting ours. Benedict Donald withdrew any leverage we had when he did withdrew 80% of our forces and abandoned 5 military bases. 2,500 was the minimum they needed to continue operations supporting the Afghan Army. They had to re-deploy thousands of troops to complete the evacuation.

If they were able to withdraw troops down to 2500 under Trump with zero casualties (and keep the Afghan govt in place), why couldn't your Vegetable Messiah get the last 2500 out without having to send in thousands more, getting 13 Marines killed, and losing the entire country to the Taliban......and arming them with $85 BILLION US arms?

Sounds to me like you are saying Joe is an idiot.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Because they are devoid of fact and merit.

How could you know that until they have had the hearings?

What Republicans can do is work with Democrats to address the business of the people.

Democratic policies actively harm the American people. Working with them to do that would also be harming the American people.

What would you propose the Republicans do first? Work with the Democrats so that there will be even more grown men in girls bathrooms and even more teenage boys in high school girls locker rooms?

Should the Republicans work with the Democrats to secure the border? Would that be business of the people you would want Republicans to work with the Democrats on?

But instead they'll go down the rabbit hole of revenge investigations.

How is asking the FBI what their role was in the January 6th riots a Revenge investigation?

 

[BackAgain]

bog.80 is worried that the GOP may do unto the Dims what the Dims did unto the GOP (especially to Trump).

 

[struth]

Oh you mean after he initially ignored their advice to not remove the bulk of our forces before the Taliban met their conditions. You know that so called conditional withdrawal.

Also, under oath they did not say that and they were asked in several different ways.

They also said they planned every aspect of the evacuation after the decision was made by the president.

Um they never said that....they said to keep a force there, and slowly withdraw, and maintain a force of 2500....he did that....and yes, the final withdraw was to be conditional....Xiden ignored that, and surrendered, ignoring the agreement and the advice of the military...undoing 20 years of progress, and costing lives.

I literally quoted them from the CNN article, they were under oath, in front of Congress.

You just can't help from lying.

Planned every aspect? So the XIden admin planned for this carnage? wow....

 

[BlindBoo]

If they were able to withdraw troops down to 2500 under Trump with zero casualties (and keep the Afghan govt in place), why couldn't your Vegetable Messiah get the last 2500 out without having to send in thousands more, getting 13 Marines killed, and losing the entire country to the Taliban......and arming them with $85 BILLION US arms?

Sounds to me like you are saying Joe is an idiot.

The Truce. Recall it was an ISIS terrorist attack in a massive crowd of people, not as a result of combat with the enemy we were working with in Kabul to facilitate our exit.

Joe is not an idiot. He is not a military man. He left the planning and execution of the evacuation up to the military.

Sounds like you and the Neo-GOP are calling the US military planners idiots.

As far as the Afghan Army and Governments collapse? Who can blame them after being largely shut out of the negotiations, and then to see Americans and our EU allies engaging in a truce while they still get shot at and killed. On top of that they also saw the US ignoring the peace process called for in the Doha accords. They knew the deck was stacked against them in a big way as soon as we left.

 

[struth]

The Heritage Foundation? Hmmmmmmmm. Here's an article contradicting numbers from conservatives in 2014.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/paul-ryans-claim-that-15-trillion-has-been-spent-on-the-war-on-poverty/2013/08/01/b2599058-faf9-11e2-a369-d1954abcb7e3_blog.html

what did it contradict? You article also highlights it's in the trillions....your article is also including Medicare and SS, which the Heritage Foundation didn't count. In any event....both show you it's well in the trillions

 

[struth]

The Truce. Recall it was an ISIS terrorist attack in a massive crowd of people, not as a result of combat with the enemy we were working with in Kabul to facilitate our exit.

Joe is not an idiot. He is not a military man. He left the planning and execution of the evacuation up to the military.

Sounds like you and the Neo-GOP are calling the US military planners idiots.

As far as the Afghan Army and Governments collapse? Who can blame them after being largely shut out of the negotiations, and then to see Americans and our EU allies engaging in a truce while they still get shot at and killed. On top of that they also saw the US ignoring the peace process called for in the Doha accords. They knew the deck was stacked against them in a big way as soon as we left.

ISIS terrorist released from prison, after Traitor Joe surrendered our military base to the Taliban.

Traitor Joe has been wrong on every foreign policy decision his entire life....his own co-workers have admitted that. He ignored the military that, have sworn under oath, they wanted to keep Trump's plan in place, of 2500 troops...because it was working. Traitor Joe wanted a photo up for 9.11 and ignored them...putting politics before national security. He only went back and did what the miltary wanted after his mid-night get out and the fall out...but by then, when he had to go back in, the Taliban and wreaked havoc.

Xiden lied, people died