House Bill Would Cut Funding to Backers of Israeli Boycotts

[Phoenall]

Unfortunately Toast, you are seeing the beginning of the end for Western support of Israel...

Western societies can clearly see the hypocrisy in Israel's quest claiming security while annexing a defenseless civilian population's lands against all UN resolutions.

She is beginning to be de-legitimized by the people who created her.

Hardly as France has already made it illegal to boycott Israeli goods in shops.

France was the only European country to vote for a Palestinian observer state...as always as in the past injustice eventually succumbs to history.

That means absolutely nothing as they passed the law just a few months ago. As are Italy, spain and Germany.

 

[pbel]

Hardly as France has already made it illegal to boycott Israeli goods in shops.

France was the only European country to vote for a Palestinian observer state...as always as in the past injustice eventually succumbs to history.

That means absolutely nothing as they passed the law just a few months ago. As are Italy, spain and Germany.

Keep dreaming thinking that Israel and its network have it all under control...its self-delusion.

 

[montelatici]

Israel’s politicians sound rattled by the campaign to isolate their country
Feb 8th 2014 | JERUSALEM | From the print edition

ONCE derided as the scheming of crackpots, the campaign for boycotts, divestment and sanctions against Israel, widely known as BDS, is turning mainstream. That, at any rate, is the fear of a growing number of Israelis. Some European pension funds have withdrawn investments; some large corporations have cancelled contracts; and the American secretary of state, John Kerry, rarely misses a chance to warn Israel that efforts to “delegitimise” and boycott it will increase if its government spurns his efforts to conclude a two-state settlement of its conflict with the Palestinians. Israel, says Yair Lapid, Israel’s foreign minister, is approaching the same “tipping point” where South Africa found itself in opposition to the rest of the world in the dying days of apartheid. “Let’s not kid ourselves,” he told a conference of security boffins recently in Tel Aviv. “The world listens to us less and less.”

Sanctions against Israel: A campaign that is gathering weight | The Economist

 

[P F Tinmore]

Supreme Court recently said corporations are people, thus have 1st Amendment rights where donating money is 'protected speech.' Thus withdrawing federal funds to punish unpopular speech would seem against the law.

As a political gesture it's fine. Lots of such 'no chance of passing' bills used simply as a gesture. But can't imagine it'll pass though.

The bill was written by AIPAC, of course it will pass.

You don't think any of those wimpshits in congress would vote against it, do you?

 

[toastman]

Supreme Court recently said corporations are people, thus have 1st Amendment rights where donating money is 'protected speech.' Thus withdrawing federal funds to punish unpopular speech would seem against the law.

As a political gesture it's fine. Lots of such 'no chance of passing' bills used simply as a gesture. But can't imagine it'll pass though.

The bill was written by AIPAC, of course it will pass.

You don't think any of those wimpshits in congress would vote against it, do you?

So if they don't vote against it, of course it always has something to do with AIPAC or Israel being behind it lol!

Or maybe, just maybe, not everyone likes to kiss Palestinian ass

 

[P F Tinmore]

This shows how desperate Israel is getting.

 

[toastman]

This shows how desperate Israel is getting.

you didn't answer my question

 

[P F Tinmore]

This shows how desperate Israel is getting.

you didn't answer my question

What question?

 

[Sally]

Supreme Court recently said corporations are people, thus have 1st Amendment rights where donating money is 'protected speech.' Thus withdrawing federal funds to punish unpopular speech would seem against the law.

As a political gesture it's fine. Lots of such 'no chance of passing' bills used simply as a gesture. But can't imagine it'll pass though.

The bill was written by AIPAC, of course it will pass.

You don't think any of those wimpshits in congress would vote against it, do you?

Perhaps Mr. Tinmore can prove his statement that AIPAC is behind this. Is there any chance that he might think that there are lawmakers who don't like boycotts. We don't see these lawmakers calling for a boycott of goods coming in from Muslim countries where people are being murdered for their religious beliefs, do we, Mr. Tinmore?

 

[Victory67]

Money=Speech, according to the United States Supreme Court.

Therefore withholding money due to political issues is a form of speech as well.

So much for Freedom of Speech in the USA.

 

[Roudy]

Money=Speech, according to the United States Supreme Court.

Therefore withholding money due to political issues is a form of speech as well.

So much for Freedom of Speech in the USA.

Tissue?

 

[Victory67]

Money=Speech, according to the United States Supreme Court.

Therefore withholding money due to political issues is a form of speech as well.

So much for Freedom of Speech in the USA.

Tissue?

You're not bothered by the possible loss of Freedom of Speech in favor of a foreign entity?

It should. Once such a precedent is set, all bets are off.

 

[Roudy]

Money=Speech, according to the United States Supreme Court.

Therefore withholding money due to political issues is a form of speech as well.

So much for Freedom of Speech in the USA.

Tissue?

You're not bothered by the possible loss of Freedom of Speech in favor of a foreign entity?

It should. Once such a precedent is set, all bets are off.

If that was the case yes. The people trying to BOYCOTT and BAN academicians and universities from their freedom of speech and an open exchange of information and research are the BDS, using Nazi like bullying tactics funded by Hamas and other foreign terroristic elements.

The Supreme Court is merely reflecting the overwhelming public support for Israel, including both Houses of Congress to not succumb to these fascistic tactics. If somebody wants to voice their opinion on a boycott of Israel, that's fine, BUT NOT WITH US GOVT. MONEY.

 

[Victory67]

If that was the case yes. The people trying to BOYCOTT and BAN academicians and universities from their freedom of speech and an open exchange of information and research are the BDS, using Nazi like bullying tactics funded by Hamas and other foreign terroristic elements.

The Supreme Court is merely reflecting the overwhelming public support for Israel, including both Houses of Congress to not succumb to these fascistic tactics. If somebody wants to voice their opinion on a boycott of Israel, that's fine, BUT NOT WITH US GOVT. MONEY.

Why shouldn't a school be able to express their political views with tax-payer dollars?

Do you also have an objection to schools boycotting Iranian or North Korean academics?

Should schools not have the right to divest their funds from North Korean or Iranian interests?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tissue?

You're not bothered by the possible loss of Freedom of Speech in favor of a foreign entity?

It should. Once such a precedent is set, all bets are off.

If that was the case yes. The people trying to BOYCOTT and BAN academicians and universities from their freedom of speech and an open exchange of information and research are the BDS, using Nazi like bullying tactics funded by Hamas and other foreign terroristic elements.

The Supreme Court is merely reflecting the overwhelming public support for Israel, including both Houses of Congress to not succumb to these fascistic tactics. If somebody wants to voice their opinion on a boycott of Israel, that's fine, BUT NOT WITH US GOVT. MONEY.

There is no boycott of academics.

The boycott is only against institutions that are complicit in criminal activity.

 

[Roudy]

If that was the case yes. The people trying to BOYCOTT and BAN academicians and universities from their freedom of speech and an open exchange of information and research are the BDS, using Nazi like bullying tactics funded by Hamas and other foreign terroristic elements.

The Supreme Court is merely reflecting the overwhelming public support for Israel, including both Houses of Congress to not succumb to these fascistic tactics. If somebody wants to voice their opinion on a boycott of Israel, that's fine, BUT NOT WITH US GOVT. MONEY.

Why shouldn't a school be able to express their political views with tax-payer dollars?

Do you also have an objection to schools boycotting Iranian or North Korean academics?

Should schools not have the right to divest their funds from North Korean or Iranian interests?

A school should be able to ban academicians from other schools and free exchange of valuable information and research? Yeah, why not, let a school take a political stance, when it is forbidden by any organization receiving govt. funding to do so?

Maybe if you're living in Iran or Syria this fascistic shit is acceptable, but not in the USA, AND NOT WITH GOVT MONEY. Especially when the people are totally against it.

 

[Roudy]

You're not bothered by the possible loss of Freedom of Speech in favor of a foreign entity?

It should. Once such a precedent is set, all bets are off.

If that was the case yes. The people trying to BOYCOTT and BAN academicians and universities from their freedom of speech and an open exchange of information and research are the BDS, using Nazi like bullying tactics funded by Hamas and other foreign terroristic elements.

The Supreme Court is merely reflecting the overwhelming public support for Israel, including both Houses of Congress to not succumb to these fascistic tactics. If somebody wants to voice their opinion on a boycott of Israel, that's fine, BUT NOT WITH US GOVT. MONEY.

There is no boycott of academics.

The boycott is only against institutions that are complicit in criminal activity.

The boycott asks for a ban of all Israeli professors and any exchange of information thereof from Israeli universities. Are you acting dumb again?

 

[Victory67]

A school should be able to ban academicians from other schools and free exchange of valuable information and research? Yeah, why not, let a school take a political stance, when it is forbidden by any organization receiving govt. funding to do so?

Maybe if you're living in Iran or Syria this fascistic shit is acceptable, but not in the USA, AND NOT WITH GOVT MONEY. Especially when the people are totally against it.

You know as well as I do that the actions of our Congress often do not reflect the will of The People.

If schools can divest from Cuban, North Korean, or Iranian companies they can do the same with Israeli ones.

I can understand not wanting them to boycott academics, but they should be able to divest money. Money is speech.

 

[pbel]

A new bipartisan bill introduced Thursday in the House would strip all federal funds from any U.S. academic institution that decides to boycott Israel, according to a copy of the newly filed legislation obtained by the Free Beacon.

The introduction of the bill marks the first time that Congress has sought to level harsh economic penalties on federally funded universities that seek to boycott the Jewish state.

The bill comes just months after the American Studies Association (ASA) agreed to boycott Israeli academics and universities, prompting a fierce backlash from pro-Israel groups and others.

The “Protect Academic Freedom Act,” jointly filed by House Chief Deputy Whip Peter Roskam (R., Ill.) and Rep. Dan Lipinski (D., Ill.) could serve as a deterrent to other groups considering Israeli boycotts.

It would amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 “to prohibit an institution that participates in a boycott of Israeli academic institutions or scholars from being eligible” to receive federal funds, according to text of the legislation.

“Attempts to single out Israel for discriminatory boycotts violates the principle of academic freedom guaranteed by the United States,” the bill states.

House Bill Would Cut Funding to Backers of Israeli Boycotts | Washington Free Beacon

I love it!!!! Let Israel through AIPAC show its muscle...What they propose is a gag order on our American rights that so many have died for...The Israelis are neo-fascists out of tune with the rest of humanity, only American subservience to Israel out in the open can we get our country back...Let them show their muscle!

 

[Victory67]

I love it!!!! Let Israel through AIPAC show its muscle...What they propose is a gag order on our American rights that so many have died for...The Israelis are neo-fascists out of tune with the rest of humanity, only American subservience to Israel out in the open can we get our country back...Let them show their muscle!

I can see them wanting to withhold money from institutions that boycott actual academics simply for holding an Israeli passport.

But withholding money from schools that choose to divest from settlement companies?

That would be a truly unfair infringement upon our Freedom of Speech.

Money is Speech and is protected by the 1st Amendment.