Honestly I like Bernie; Students should study for free

[HereWeGoAgain]

You're still in that emotive idealistic life phase, ani'tcha...........

it sounds like he or she is playing that game called D&D where everything is done by the roll of the dice

Sounds like a collage freshman straight out of high school who has never had to deal with the real world before. Of course it could be an academic who's never had to deal with the real world that exists outside of academia........

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

 

[Slade3200]

Yes I would. Randomness is just cruel.

Lets say we have 10 dice.
Capitalism: Random rolls, some 6, some 1, who knows
Democratic Socialism: We patiently place each dice down on a 4 or 5. Everyone does well.

How is that bad?

Because some PRODUCE ,but all RECEIVE. That sucks. Only mooching rotters take Alms. A CEO can EASILY do a "Workers" Job. A "Worker" can't possibly do the CEO's job. Takes BRAINS.

There is something to be said to the fact that robots and automation are going to reduce the number of producers. The concentration of wealth is also reducing the number of owners in this country as the big dogs buy out all the little dogs. There will have to be some form of socialism to compensate for the trend that our future is taking us. Yang actually had good foresight about this and started a discussion. All those sci fi moves are about to become reality!

 

[Preacher]

it sounds like he or she is playing that game called D&D where everything is done by the roll of the dice

Sounds like a collage freshman straight out of high school who has never had to deal with the real world before. Of course it could be an academic who's never had to deal with the real world that exists outside of academia........

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

 

[Mac-7]

How about free housing?

do you want bernie voters to live on the street?

and dont forget free cell phones and free internet

transportation?

a free light rail and buss pass for EVERYONE!

I’m sure there more that we can think of

Don't be silly--not everyone uses a bus or train, but it is almost impossible to get along these days without access to the internet. Even job applications need to go online. So maybe internet SHOULD be universally accessible without cost. I'm not talking about Netflix or any of that stuff. Just WiFi. Not everyone can afford a smartphone.

Not everyone can afford a smartphone

particularly if they are too lazy to work

but there are still free obama phones

Obama phones never had internet access. They're for making doctor's appointments, communicating with the kids' school, and calling 911 if the bf goes bizerk on ya. 90 minutes a month.

I work and I'm sure I couldn't afford one if I wanted one. I know plenty of people who either don't have one or routinely don't pay their bill BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT and therefore can't use it.

My ex's Obama phone had internet. That was years ago.

You must make a really spectacular salary. So how do YOU afford one? Average is $114 p/month. Now that I'm going to be coughing up $165 p/month for Medicare and Part C, I sure as hell don't have an extra $100 p/month for googling shit while I drive.

So we owe you a free phone and internet?

 

[justoffal]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage and free medical care.

Thats all

Would you be willing to pay 60-70% of your income in federal taxes to accomplish that?

.

Like a New Orleans Whore with a Master Card.....they never figure on paying the bill.
It's just amazing.

Jo

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Sounds like a collage freshman straight out of high school who has never had to deal with the real world before. Of course it could be an academic who's never had to deal with the real world that exists outside of academia........

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

 

[Preacher]

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

 

[The Original Tree]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage and free medical care.

Thats all

Bernie is proposing $200 Trillion in spending when THE US only has a $20 Trillion GDP.

His sole purpose for running then can only mean he wants to Bankrupt America and destroy our economy so we have no choice but to be under the thumb of Global Governance

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

 

[Preacher]

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

The same they are now! High enough GPA and SAT or ACT scores etc. Why should any of that change? Literally it's just insuring young folks can start a life without 50-100k in student loan debt.

 

[OldLady]

Don't be silly--not everyone uses a bus or train, but it is almost impossible to get along these days without access to the internet. Even job applications need to go online. So maybe internet SHOULD be universally accessible without cost. I'm not talking about Netflix or any of that stuff. Just WiFi. Not everyone can afford a smartphone.

Not everyone can afford a smartphone

particularly if they are too lazy to work

but there are still free obama phones

Obama phones never had internet access. They're for making doctor's appointments, communicating with the kids' school, and calling 911 if the bf goes bizerk on ya. 90 minutes a month.

I work and I'm sure I couldn't afford one if I wanted one. I know plenty of people who either don't have one or routinely don't pay their bill BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT and therefore can't use it.

My ex's Obama phone had internet. That was years ago.

You must make a really spectacular salary. So how do YOU afford one? Average is $114 p/month. Now that I'm going to be coughing up $165 p/month for Medicare and Part C, I sure as hell don't have an extra $100 p/month for googling shit while I drive.

So we owe you a free phone and internet?

keep reading.

 

[OldLady]

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

Why shouldn't someone with a criminal record be able to attend college? You might as well just give everyone a life sentence, then, if you aren't going to allow them any way to lead a crime-free life after they're released.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Don't be silly--not everyone uses a bus or train, but it is almost impossible to get along these days without access to the internet. Even job applications need to go online. So maybe internet SHOULD be universally accessible without cost. I'm not talking about Netflix or any of that stuff. Just WiFi. Not everyone can afford a smartphone.

Not everyone can afford a smartphone

particularly if they are too lazy to work

but there are still free obama phones

Obama phones never had internet access. They're for making doctor's appointments, communicating with the kids' school, and calling 911 if the bf goes bizerk on ya. 90 minutes a month.

I work and I'm sure I couldn't afford one if I wanted one. I know plenty of people who either don't have one or routinely don't pay their bill BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT and therefore can't use it.

My ex's Obama phone had internet. That was years ago.

You must make a really spectacular salary. So how do YOU afford one? Average is $114 p/month. Now that I'm going to be coughing up $165 p/month for Medicare and Part C, I sure as hell don't have an extra $100 p/month for googling shit while I drive.

My bill is right at $55 a month and I have unlimited everything. Been with the company since 2001.

Mines 25.00 a month unlimited data T mobile family plan I pay 25.00 my wife pays 25.00 one of my sons and his wife pay 25.00 each.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're a child, both chronologically and mentally. Dictators have lied to suppress populations for eons because there are always plenty of fools to eat their horseshit. FREE is the baited hook that snags the incompetent every time.

Bernie openly supports the Castro Regime, Communism and Speaks favorably of Venezuela's current dictatorship.
What you are (along with millions like you) is either a Communist, or a moron idealist as mentioned earlier in the thread with no real sense of how economies actually work.

Our system definitely needs correction and cleaning.......but not Socialism or Communism, which seems to be where it's headed.

China simply eradicates those it feels oppose the Communist party. THAT is exactly what you are helping usher in to America.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Sounds like a collage freshman straight out of high school who has never had to deal with the real world before. Of course it could be an academic who's never had to deal with the real world that exists outside of academia........

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

I would whether see those who pay no taxes not get a refund. Instead of what you suggested.

 

[miketx]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage and free medical care.

Thats all

How about free housing?

do you want bernie voters to live on the street?

and dont forget free cell phones and free internet

transportation?

a free light rail and buss pass for EVERYONE!

I’m sure there more that we can think of

Housing should be more affordable but not sure about free. Phones and internet should be free, its impossible to function without one. It should be a public utilities just like sewer or sidewalks.

The subways should be free. Our taxes already paid for them.

You're a confirmed idiot.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

The same they are now! High enough GPA and SAT or ACT scores etc. Why should any of that change? Literally it's just insuring young folks can start a life without 50-100k in student loan debt.

You ignored all of my other concerns.
But it all really boils down to...If you want to go to college pay for it your damn self.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You're still in that emotive idealistic life phase, ani'tcha...........

it sounds like he or she is playing that game called D&D where everything is done by the roll of the dice

Sounds like a collage freshman straight out of high school who has never had to deal with the real world before. Of course it could be an academic who's never had to deal with the real world that exists outside of academia........

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

Some of those bailouts where too bailout the unions. and if you're whiming about the bailout you need to talk to your Democrats because they voted for it to give them the bailouts

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

The FACT that we are seeing a hard core Communist (Yes, Bernie is just that) poised to win the Democratic nomination tells the story. We are headed for it if not in November, then in 2024 under Ocasio.

We are already gone. Good men did nothing. They will take your guns soon. But keep denying if it makes you feel better.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

Why shouldn't someone with a criminal record be able to attend college? You might as well just give everyone a life sentence, then, if you aren't going to allow them any way to lead a crime-free life after they're released.

So I guess the whole rape culture on American college campus was bogus......
Do you believe that a potential employer has the right to know if that guy looking for a job is a convicted felon?