History's verdict on Trump will be devastating

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3000 and 4000 years from now, people will go to New York to see the Trump Tower, the wonder of the world with the Tremendous Golden Escalator and see where Trump lived.

I think they will recognize that he was pretty fucking great.
I hope I live long enough to piss on that POS trumps grave
 

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The litany of policy errors, uninformed decisions, marginalization of medical expert advice, misinformation, failures to act proactively, and general lack of preparation is shocking.

Any other prez, were he not the leader of a cult like Trump, would have a favorable opinion poll rating below 30%.
 

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The litany of policy errors, uninformed decisions, marginalization of medical expert advice, misinformation, failures to act proactively, and general lack of preparation is shocking.

Any other prez, were he not the leader of a cult like Trump, would have a favorable opinion poll rating below 30%.

That doesn't explain why it's actually going up, as the cult has supported him all along and the dems haven't.

It's only the folks in the middle that move on much of anything, really.
 

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Epidemiologists have been saying since January this wouldn't be contained due to its symptomology. We likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of cases here before we knew it and this was over before it really began. At the time we had only 5 cases here and yet epidemiologists knew this was going to blow up on a global level.

Blame Trump all day and twice on Sundays if it makes you happy. The facts are that this was not going to be stopped, and scientists knew it once they knew what they were dealing with.

What we're dealing with now is exactly what they said was going to happen and the measures in place are there only to try to keep the hospital systems from being swamped, not to 'stop this' or anything else.

You cannot stop it, you can only slow it and it's been that way since Minute 1. It's math, it's always been math and the math is proving itself out.
Ok, what about China, Japan and Taiwan. Its already contained in those countries. New reports today say that Italy will have contained the virus by June 1. You can speculate all you want to about the real figure for infections, but you'll never know. But it is a fact that we have what we would call containment in China, Japan and Taiwan.

Trump FAILED and Japan shows that. Had Trump shut the borders and international travel back in January, we would be enjoying the same situation that Taiwan and Japan have been. That's a FACT! The theory that the Pathogen can't be stopped gets has plenty of holes in it as China, Taiwan and Japan demonstrate. IT WAS NEVER A FACT!

Again, China, Japan and Taiwan. Let the facts from those country's sink in.

China, Japan and Taiwan have stopped it. Look at the figures and look at the math.
China is cooking its numbers.

The cockup with the testing here cost us weeks and that isn't on Trump, as much as everyone would like to make it so.

All countries will peak and fall off, including ours. Epidemiologists are now saying that here this will happen Mid to late April here, with outbreaks flaring here and there thereafter as people pop out of their hidey-holes and the virus does what it does. And that's going to happen with full awareness everywhere. You cannot stop this. Period.

The point stands, and that point is that epidemiologists in this country called this a mile out based on the symptomology and they have been dead nuts on the screws.

Blame Trump. Honestly, I don't care. The facts don't jibe with that version of events. He hasn't been perfect but you don't overcome math in a situation such as this.
If China is cooking its numbers where is your PROOF!

WHAT ABOUT JAPAN?

WHAT ABOUT TAIWAN?

The United States could be TAIWAN or JAPAN, but Trump failed to take the same actions as those countries did back in January!

The average Epidemiologist have never said you cannot contain or stop this.

Bill Gates has done more work than most people on these types of diseases and he says 6 to 10 weeks to break this. Then there is the risk of 2nd and 3rd waves, but that those are not for certain. It may be possible to contain any new outbreaks over the next couple of years.

Then there is the development of the Vaccine. But most epidemiologists believe coronavirus will be contained and burned out by the time the Vaccine is ready.

There's proof all over the web about China, FFS. They aren't reporting asymptomatic cases that test positive. That you don't know this boggles my mind.

And what about France, or Spain, or the UK or on and on and on. This is a global pandemic. Did Trump cause failure in Europe as well I wonder.

We should be this, we should be that. The cockup with the testing cost us, which everyone knows and, again, that isn't on Trump. All the Monday morning quarterbacking in the world doesn't change a thing on that whole thing.

And, again, as you seem to have a problem grasping the simple fact that this isn't my opinion but the opinion of epidemiologists, the people that actually know did know and called exactly what was going to happen here.
As Truman said, the BUCK STOPS HERE! Trump's had nearly four years. Americans don't like this situation. Trump will be let go.

As for China, you can't hide the results of what this virus does, because growth in infections and deaths from it is exponential. So unless you can show some unexplained outbreak of death in any part of China right now, you GOT NOTHING!

France, Spain and the UK failed. We want the U.S. President to DO what is needed to be done to protect the population. Its what TAIWAN and JAPAN did. Its what TRUMP could have done and should have done, but FAILED to do.

Trump has had 3 years to make defending the country from a pandemic a priority as well as ensuring that we had the best testing capabilities in the world. But he FAILED to do that. He thought it was more important to give the richest 10% Trillions of dollars in tax cuts. That money could have been used to prepare and prevent this disaster from happening!

Sorry, but your twisting or fabricating what epidemiologist have said. Most epidemiologist believe these disasters can be prevented and if they are not, they can eventually be contained.

LOOK AT TAIWAN AND JAPAN! Yep, no answer for that. Cold hard facts.
Epidemiologists have been saying since January this wouldn't be contained due to its symptomology. We likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of cases here before we knew it and this was over before it really began. At the time we had only 5 cases here and yet epidemiologists knew this was going to blow up on a global level.

Blame Trump all day and twice on Sundays if it makes you happy. The facts are that this was not going to be stopped, and scientists knew it once they knew what they were dealing with.

What we're dealing with now is exactly what they said was going to happen and the measures in place are there only to try to keep the hospital systems from being swamped, not to 'stop this' or anything else.

You cannot stop it, you can only slow it and it's been that way since Minute 1. It's math, it's always been math and the math is proving itself out.
Ok, what about China, Japan and Taiwan. Its already contained in those countries. New reports today say that Italy will have contained the virus by June 1. You can speculate all you want to about the real figure for infections, but you'll never know. But it is a fact that we have what we would call containment in China, Japan and Taiwan.

Trump FAILED and Japan shows that. Had Trump shut the borders and international travel back in January, we would be enjoying the same situation that Taiwan and Japan have been. That's a FACT! The theory that the Pathogen can't be stopped gets has plenty of holes in it as China, Taiwan and Japan demonstrate. IT WAS NEVER A FACT!

Again, China, Japan and Taiwan. Let the facts from those country's sink in.

China, Japan and Taiwan have stopped it. Look at the figures and look at the math.
China is cooking its numbers.

The cockup with the testing here cost us weeks and that isn't on Trump, as much as everyone would like to make it so.

All countries will peak and fall off, including ours. Epidemiologists are now saying that here this will happen Mid to late April here, with outbreaks flaring here and there thereafter as people pop out of their hidey-holes and the virus does what it does. And that's going to happen with full awareness everywhere. You cannot stop this. Period.

The point stands, and that point is that epidemiologists in this country called this a mile out based on the symptomology and they have been dead nuts on the screws.

Blame Trump. Honestly, I don't care. The facts don't jibe with that version of events. He hasn't been perfect but you don't overcome math in a situation such as this.
If China is cooking its numbers where is your PROOF!

WHAT ABOUT JAPAN?

WHAT ABOUT TAIWAN?

The United States could be TAIWAN or JAPAN, but Trump failed to take the same actions as those countries did back in January!

The average Epidemiologist have never said you cannot contain or stop this.

Bill Gates has done more work than most people on these types of diseases and he says 6 to 10 weeks to break this. Then there is the risk of 2nd and 3rd waves, but that those are not for certain. It may be possible to contain any new outbreaks over the next couple of years.

Then there is the development of the Vaccine. But most epidemiologists believe coronavirus will be contained and burned out by the time the Vaccine is ready.

There's proof all over the web about China, FFS. They aren't reporting asymptomatic cases that test positive. That you don't know this boggles my mind.

And what about France, or Spain, or the UK or on and on and on. This is a global pandemic. Did Trump cause failure in Europe as well I wonder.

We should be this, we should be that. The cockup with the testing cost us, which everyone knows and, again, that isn't on Trump. All the Monday morning quarterbacking in the world doesn't change a thing on that whole thing.

And, again, as you seem to have a problem grasping the simple fact that this isn't my opinion but the opinion of epidemiologists, the people that actually know did know and called exactly what was going to happen here.
As Truman said, the BUCK STOPS HERE! Trump's had nearly four years. Americans don't like this situation. Trump will be let go.

As for China, you can't hide the results of what this virus does, because growth in infections and deaths from it is exponential. So unless you can show some unexplained outbreak of death in any part of China right now, you GOT NOTHING!

France, Spain and the UK failed. We want the U.S. President to DO what is needed to be done to protect the population. Its what TAIWAN and JAPAN did. Its what TRUMP could have done and should have done, but FAILED to do.

Trump has had 3 years to make defending the country from a pandemic a priority as well as ensuring that we had the best testing capabilities in the world. But he FAILED to do that. He thought it was more important to give the richest 10% Trillions of dollars in tax cuts. That money could have been used to prepare and prevent this disaster from happening!

Sorry, but your twisting or fabricating what epidemiologist have said. Most epidemiologist believe these disasters can be prevented and if they are not, they can eventually be contained.

LOOK AT TAIWAN AND JAPAN! Yep, no answer for that. Cold hard facts.
Be careful chanting that mantra too often. Cases are increasing in Tokyo.
 

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The litany of policy errors, uninformed decisions, marginalization of medical expert advice, misinformation, failures to act proactively, and general lack of preparation is shocking.

Any other prez, were he not the leader of a cult like Trump, would have a favorable opinion poll rating below 30%.

That doesn't explain why it's actually going up, as the cult has supported him all along and the dems haven't.

It's only the folks in the middle that move on much of anything, really.

The D's have slid tremendously to the Left you know. They really screwed up in 2020, they should have recruited a candidate closer to the center like Mitt Romney.
 

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A vindictive POTUS who ignores the moral values in the Mission Statement, i.e. The Preamble to COTUS, who has violated his oath to support COTUS in words and acts, is unworthy of the office of trust. President Trump has dishonored the office he has had the privilege of this high office, as have the Senators who failed to remove him when the opportunity was there.

Examples in evidence:


"While the coronavirus spreads across the nation with no regards to state borders, the nation's governors are taking wildly different approaches to tackling the disease, resulting in a patchwork national map that undermines our ability to stop COVID-19 effectively. Coupled with the disastrous leadership of a president more interested in retaliating against his perceived enemies than employing his powers for good, the fractured response to coronavirus reveals how much has to be healed in our nation's system. It also sets in motion an inevitable showdown between Trump and those state leaders who are taking coronavirus seriously, a divide that is only going to get worse given Trump's toxic tendency to blame others for his own shortcomings"


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sharpened her criticism of President Trump’s early dismissal of the coronavirus, saying the delay cost American lives.

“His denial at the beginning was deadly,” said Pelosi to open her interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper.

“His delaying of getting equipment — it continues — his delaying of getting equipment to where it is needed is deadly, and now I think the best thing is to prevent more loss of life rather than open things up because we just don’t know. We have to have testing, testing, testing — that’s what we said from the start before we can evaluate the nature of it in some of these other regions as well.”


  • PBS NewsHour reporter Yamiche Alcindor confronted President Donald Trump with his own statements during the daily coronavirus taskforce briefing on Sunday as US coronavirus cases rose to nearly 140,000.
  • In response, Trump snapped at Alcindor to "be nice" and not "be threatening."
  • The president continued berating Alcindor as she pressed on and tried to redirect his attention to her question about earlier statements he made to Fox News host Sean Hannity about the shortage in medical equipment as states battle the novel coronavirus.
  • "When journalists get up and ask questions that are so threatening—" Trump began. Alcindor hit back: "I was quoting you directly from your interview with Sean Hannity."
Belongs in FLAME Zone.

Don't you Cock Sucking Assholes ever get tired of Trolling America, our President, and being Gleeful over People dying because China attacked the US with a Biological weapon that the dumb-asses couldn't control and unleashed on the whole world?

May God Curse you and everything and everyone you care about. May you be destitute, and hungry, in pain and lonely, and may people shun you when they see you.

And may you always have perpetually dirty underwear.
Only a 5th of all corona cases are in the USA.
The virus is global.
Very narrow minded to only think of yourself.

 

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Epidemiologists have been saying since January this wouldn't be contained due to its symptomology. We likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of cases here before we knew it and this was over before it really began. At the time we had only 5 cases here and yet epidemiologists knew this was going to blow up on a global level.

Blame Trump all day and twice on Sundays if it makes you happy. The facts are that this was not going to be stopped, and scientists knew it once they knew what they were dealing with.

What we're dealing with now is exactly what they said was going to happen and the measures in place are there only to try to keep the hospital systems from being swamped, not to 'stop this' or anything else.

You cannot stop it, you can only slow it and it's been that way since Minute 1. It's math, it's always been math and the math is proving itself out.
Ok, what about China, Japan and Taiwan. Its already contained in those countries. New reports today say that Italy will have contained the virus by June 1. You can speculate all you want to about the real figure for infections, but you'll never know. But it is a fact that we have what we would call containment in China, Japan and Taiwan.

Trump FAILED and Japan shows that. Had Trump shut the borders and international travel back in January, we would be enjoying the same situation that Taiwan and Japan have been. That's a FACT! The theory that the Pathogen can't be stopped gets has plenty of holes in it as China, Taiwan and Japan demonstrate. IT WAS NEVER A FACT!

Again, China, Japan and Taiwan. Let the facts from those country's sink in.

China, Japan and Taiwan have stopped it. Look at the figures and look at the math.
China is cooking its numbers.

The cockup with the testing here cost us weeks and that isn't on Trump, as much as everyone would like to make it so.

All countries will peak and fall off, including ours. Epidemiologists are now saying that here this will happen Mid to late April here, with outbreaks flaring here and there thereafter as people pop out of their hidey-holes and the virus does what it does. And that's going to happen with full awareness everywhere. You cannot stop this. Period.

The point stands, and that point is that epidemiologists in this country called this a mile out based on the symptomology and they have been dead nuts on the screws.

Blame Trump. Honestly, I don't care. The facts don't jibe with that version of events. He hasn't been perfect but you don't overcome math in a situation such as this.
If China is cooking its numbers where is your PROOF!

WHAT ABOUT JAPAN?

WHAT ABOUT TAIWAN?

The United States could be TAIWAN or JAPAN, but Trump failed to take the same actions as those countries did back in January!

The average Epidemiologist have never said you cannot contain or stop this.

Bill Gates has done more work than most people on these types of diseases and he says 6 to 10 weeks to break this. Then there is the risk of 2nd and 3rd waves, but that those are not for certain. It may be possible to contain any new outbreaks over the next couple of years.

Then there is the development of the Vaccine. But most epidemiologists believe coronavirus will be contained and burned out by the time the Vaccine is ready.

There's proof all over the web about China, FFS. They aren't reporting asymptomatic cases that test positive. That you don't know this boggles my mind.

And what about France, or Spain, or the UK or on and on and on. This is a global pandemic. Did Trump cause failure in Europe as well I wonder.

We should be this, we should be that. The cockup with the testing cost us, which everyone knows and, again, that isn't on Trump. All the Monday morning quarterbacking in the world doesn't change a thing on that whole thing.

And, again, as you seem to have a problem grasping the simple fact that this isn't my opinion but the opinion of epidemiologists, the people that actually know did know and called exactly what was going to happen here.
As Truman said, the BUCK STOPS HERE! Trump's had nearly four years. Americans don't like this situation. Trump will be let go.

As for China, you can't hide the results of what this virus does, because growth in infections and deaths from it is exponential. So unless you can show some unexplained outbreak of death in any part of China right now, you GOT NOTHING!

France, Spain and the UK failed. We want the U.S. President to DO what is needed to be done to protect the population. Its what TAIWAN and JAPAN did. Its what TRUMP could have done and should have done, but FAILED to do.

Trump has had 3 years to make defending the country from a pandemic a priority as well as ensuring that we had the best testing capabilities in the world. But he FAILED to do that. He thought it was more important to give the richest 10% Trillions of dollars in tax cuts. That money could have been used to prepare and prevent this disaster from happening!

Sorry, but your twisting or fabricating what epidemiologist have said. Most epidemiologist believe these disasters can be prevented and if they are not, they can eventually be contained.

LOOK AT TAIWAN AND JAPAN! Yep, no answer for that. Cold hard facts.
"The Buck Stops Here" belonged to Truman but he didn't really mean it. Truman's incompetence, indecision and timid administration led to the quagmire that took the lives of over 50,000 Americans in the Korean conflict but like all democrats he had the support of the media. Republicans historically do not get a fair treatment from pop-culture historians.
 

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A vindictive POTUS who ignores the moral values in the Mission Statement, i.e. The Preamble to COTUS, who has violated his oath to support COTUS in words and acts, is unworthy of the office of trust. President Trump has dishonored the office he has had the privilege of this high office, as have the Senators who failed to remove him when the opportunity was there.

Examples in evidence:


"While the coronavirus spreads across the nation with no regards to state borders, the nation's governors are taking wildly different approaches to tackling the disease, resulting in a patchwork national map that undermines our ability to stop COVID-19 effectively. Coupled with the disastrous leadership of a president more interested in retaliating against his perceived enemies than employing his powers for good, the fractured response to coronavirus reveals how much has to be healed in our nation's system. It also sets in motion an inevitable showdown between Trump and those state leaders who are taking coronavirus seriously, a divide that is only going to get worse given Trump's toxic tendency to blame others for his own shortcomings"


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sharpened her criticism of President Trump’s early dismissal of the coronavirus, saying the delay cost American lives.

“His denial at the beginning was deadly,” said Pelosi to open her interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper.

“His delaying of getting equipment — it continues — his delaying of getting equipment to where it is needed is deadly, and now I think the best thing is to prevent more loss of life rather than open things up because we just don’t know. We have to have testing, testing, testing — that’s what we said from the start before we can evaluate the nature of it in some of these other regions as well.”


  • PBS NewsHour reporter Yamiche Alcindor confronted President Donald Trump with his own statements during the daily coronavirus taskforce briefing on Sunday as US coronavirus cases rose to nearly 140,000.
  • In response, Trump snapped at Alcindor to "be nice" and not "be threatening."
  • The president continued berating Alcindor as she pressed on and tried to redirect his attention to her question about earlier statements he made to Fox News host Sean Hannity about the shortage in medical equipment as states battle the novel coronavirus.
  • "When journalists get up and ask questions that are so threatening—" Trump began. Alcindor hit back: "I was quoting you directly from your interview with Sean Hannity."
Belongs in FLAME Zone.

Don't you Cock Sucking Assholes ever get tired of Trolling America, our President, and being Gleeful over People dying because China attacked the US with a Biological weapon that the dumb-asses couldn't control and unleashed on the whole world?

May God Curse you and everything and everyone you care about. May you be destitute, and hungry, in pain and lonely, and may people shun you when they see you.

And may you always have perpetually dirty underwear.
Only a 5th of all corona cases are in the USA.
The virus is global.
Very narrow minded to only think of yourself.

Progs......impeach...accuse.....impeach....accuse....impeach....accuse......impeach......accuse! They don't take responsibility either.
 

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Epidemiologists have been saying since January this wouldn't be contained due to its symptomology. We likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of cases here before we knew it and this was over before it really began. At the time we had only 5 cases here and yet epidemiologists knew this was going to blow up on a global level.

Blame Trump all day and twice on Sundays if it makes you happy. The facts are that this was not going to be stopped, and scientists knew it once they knew what they were dealing with.

What we're dealing with now is exactly what they said was going to happen and the measures in place are there only to try to keep the hospital systems from being swamped, not to 'stop this' or anything else.

You cannot stop it, you can only slow it and it's been that way since Minute 1. It's math, it's always been math and the math is proving itself out.
Ok, what about China, Japan and Taiwan. Its already contained in those countries. New reports today say that Italy will have contained the virus by June 1. You can speculate all you want to about the real figure for infections, but you'll never know. But it is a fact that we have what we would call containment in China, Japan and Taiwan.

Trump FAILED and Japan shows that. Had Trump shut the borders and international travel back in January, we would be enjoying the same situation that Taiwan and Japan have been. That's a FACT! The theory that the Pathogen can't be stopped gets has plenty of holes in it as China, Taiwan and Japan demonstrate. IT WAS NEVER A FACT!

Again, China, Japan and Taiwan. Let the facts from those country's sink in.

China, Japan and Taiwan have stopped it. Look at the figures and look at the math.
China is cooking its numbers.

The cockup with the testing here cost us weeks and that isn't on Trump, as much as everyone would like to make it so.

All countries will peak and fall off, including ours. Epidemiologists are now saying that here this will happen Mid to late April here, with outbreaks flaring here and there thereafter as people pop out of their hidey-holes and the virus does what it does. And that's going to happen with full awareness everywhere. You cannot stop this. Period.

The point stands, and that point is that epidemiologists in this country called this a mile out based on the symptomology and they have been dead nuts on the screws.

Blame Trump. Honestly, I don't care. The facts don't jibe with that version of events. He hasn't been perfect but you don't overcome math in a situation such as this.
If China is cooking its numbers where is your PROOF!

WHAT ABOUT JAPAN?

WHAT ABOUT TAIWAN?

The United States could be TAIWAN or JAPAN, but Trump failed to take the same actions as those countries did back in January!

The average Epidemiologist have never said you cannot contain or stop this.

Bill Gates has done more work than most people on these types of diseases and he says 6 to 10 weeks to break this. Then there is the risk of 2nd and 3rd waves, but that those are not for certain. It may be possible to contain any new outbreaks over the next couple of years.

Then there is the development of the Vaccine. But most epidemiologists believe coronavirus will be contained and burned out by the time the Vaccine is ready.

There's proof all over the web about China, FFS. They aren't reporting asymptomatic cases that test positive. That you don't know this boggles my mind.

And what about France, or Spain, or the UK or on and on and on. This is a global pandemic. Did Trump cause failure in Europe as well I wonder.

We should be this, we should be that. The cockup with the testing cost us, which everyone knows and, again, that isn't on Trump. All the Monday morning quarterbacking in the world doesn't change a thing on that whole thing.

And, again, as you seem to have a problem grasping the simple fact that this isn't my opinion but the opinion of epidemiologists, the people that actually know did know and called exactly what was going to happen here.
As Truman said, the BUCK STOPS HERE! Trump's had nearly four years. Americans don't like this situation. Trump will be let go.

As for China, you can't hide the results of what this virus does, because growth in infections and deaths from it is exponential. So unless you can show some unexplained outbreak of death in any part of China right now, you GOT NOTHING!

France, Spain and the UK failed. We want the U.S. President to DO what is needed to be done to protect the population. Its what TAIWAN and JAPAN did. Its what TRUMP could have done and should have done, but FAILED to do.

Trump has had 3 years to make defending the country from a pandemic a priority as well as ensuring that we had the best testing capabilities in the world. But he FAILED to do that. He thought it was more important to give the richest 10% Trillions of dollars in tax cuts. That money could have been used to prepare and prevent this disaster from happening!

Sorry, but your twisting or fabricating what epidemiologist have said. Most epidemiologist believe these disasters can be prevented and if they are not, they can eventually be contained.

LOOK AT TAIWAN AND JAPAN! Yep, no answer for that. Cold hard facts.
Epidemiologists have been saying since January this wouldn't be contained due to its symptomology. We likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of cases here before we knew it and this was over before it really began. At the time we had only 5 cases here and yet epidemiologists knew this was going to blow up on a global level.

Blame Trump all day and twice on Sundays if it makes you happy. The facts are that this was not going to be stopped, and scientists knew it once they knew what they were dealing with.

What we're dealing with now is exactly what they said was going to happen and the measures in place are there only to try to keep the hospital systems from being swamped, not to 'stop this' or anything else.

You cannot stop it, you can only slow it and it's been that way since Minute 1. It's math, it's always been math and the math is proving itself out.
Ok, what about China, Japan and Taiwan. Its already contained in those countries. New reports today say that Italy will have contained the virus by June 1. You can speculate all you want to about the real figure for infections, but you'll never know. But it is a fact that we have what we would call containment in China, Japan and Taiwan.

Trump FAILED and Japan shows that. Had Trump shut the borders and international travel back in January, we would be enjoying the same situation that Taiwan and Japan have been. That's a FACT! The theory that the Pathogen can't be stopped gets has plenty of holes in it as China, Taiwan and Japan demonstrate. IT WAS NEVER A FACT!

Again, China, Japan and Taiwan. Let the facts from those country's sink in.

China, Japan and Taiwan have stopped it. Look at the figures and look at the math.
China is cooking its numbers.

The cockup with the testing here cost us weeks and that isn't on Trump, as much as everyone would like to make it so.

All countries will peak and fall off, including ours. Epidemiologists are now saying that here this will happen Mid to late April here, with outbreaks flaring here and there thereafter as people pop out of their hidey-holes and the virus does what it does. And that's going to happen with full awareness everywhere. You cannot stop this. Period.

The point stands, and that point is that epidemiologists in this country called this a mile out based on the symptomology and they have been dead nuts on the screws.

Blame Trump. Honestly, I don't care. The facts don't jibe with that version of events. He hasn't been perfect but you don't overcome math in a situation such as this.
If China is cooking its numbers where is your PROOF!

WHAT ABOUT JAPAN?

WHAT ABOUT TAIWAN?

The United States could be TAIWAN or JAPAN, but Trump failed to take the same actions as those countries did back in January!

The average Epidemiologist have never said you cannot contain or stop this.

Bill Gates has done more work than most people on these types of diseases and he says 6 to 10 weeks to break this. Then there is the risk of 2nd and 3rd waves, but that those are not for certain. It may be possible to contain any new outbreaks over the next couple of years.

Then there is the development of the Vaccine. But most epidemiologists believe coronavirus will be contained and burned out by the time the Vaccine is ready.

There's proof all over the web about China, FFS. They aren't reporting asymptomatic cases that test positive. That you don't know this boggles my mind.

And what about France, or Spain, or the UK or on and on and on. This is a global pandemic. Did Trump cause failure in Europe as well I wonder.

We should be this, we should be that. The cockup with the testing cost us, which everyone knows and, again, that isn't on Trump. All the Monday morning quarterbacking in the world doesn't change a thing on that whole thing.

And, again, as you seem to have a problem grasping the simple fact that this isn't my opinion but the opinion of epidemiologists, the people that actually know did know and called exactly what was going to happen here.
As Truman said, the BUCK STOPS HERE! Trump's had nearly four years. Americans don't like this situation. Trump will be let go.

As for China, you can't hide the results of what this virus does, because growth in infections and deaths from it is exponential. So unless you can show some unexplained outbreak of death in any part of China right now, you GOT NOTHING!

France, Spain and the UK failed. We want the U.S. President to DO what is needed to be done to protect the population. Its what TAIWAN and JAPAN did. Its what TRUMP could have done and should have done, but FAILED to do.

Trump has had 3 years to make defending the country from a pandemic a priority as well as ensuring that we had the best testing capabilities in the world. But he FAILED to do that. He thought it was more important to give the richest 10% Trillions of dollars in tax cuts. That money could have been used to prepare and prevent this disaster from happening!

Sorry, but your twisting or fabricating what epidemiologist have said. Most epidemiologist believe these disasters can be prevented and if they are not, they can eventually be contained.

LOOK AT TAIWAN AND JAPAN! Yep, no answer for that. Cold hard facts.
Be careful chanting that mantra too often. Cases are increasing in Tokyo.
If the following figures for Tokyo were 1,953 infections and 56 deaths, that would still be outstanding. As it is, those are currently the figures for the entire country of Japan. 7 people have died in Japan over the past week from coronavirus. Compare that to the United States. We have a daily death toll in the United States of 500 a day now, while Japan might have 1 person die a day from coronavirus.
 

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Epidemiologists have been saying since January this wouldn't be contained due to its symptomology. We likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of cases here before we knew it and this was over before it really began. At the time we had only 5 cases here and yet epidemiologists knew this was going to blow up on a global level.

Blame Trump all day and twice on Sundays if it makes you happy. The facts are that this was not going to be stopped, and scientists knew it once they knew what they were dealing with.

What we're dealing with now is exactly what they said was going to happen and the measures in place are there only to try to keep the hospital systems from being swamped, not to 'stop this' or anything else.

You cannot stop it, you can only slow it and it's been that way since Minute 1. It's math, it's always been math and the math is proving itself out.
Ok, what about China, Japan and Taiwan. Its already contained in those countries. New reports today say that Italy will have contained the virus by June 1. You can speculate all you want to about the real figure for infections, but you'll never know. But it is a fact that we have what we would call containment in China, Japan and Taiwan.

Trump FAILED and Japan shows that. Had Trump shut the borders and international travel back in January, we would be enjoying the same situation that Taiwan and Japan have been. That's a FACT! The theory that the Pathogen can't be stopped gets has plenty of holes in it as China, Taiwan and Japan demonstrate. IT WAS NEVER A FACT!

Again, China, Japan and Taiwan. Let the facts from those country's sink in.

China, Japan and Taiwan have stopped it. Look at the figures and look at the math.
China is cooking its numbers.

The cockup with the testing here cost us weeks and that isn't on Trump, as much as everyone would like to make it so.

All countries will peak and fall off, including ours. Epidemiologists are now saying that here this will happen Mid to late April here, with outbreaks flaring here and there thereafter as people pop out of their hidey-holes and the virus does what it does. And that's going to happen with full awareness everywhere. You cannot stop this. Period.

The point stands, and that point is that epidemiologists in this country called this a mile out based on the symptomology and they have been dead nuts on the screws.

Blame Trump. Honestly, I don't care. The facts don't jibe with that version of events. He hasn't been perfect but you don't overcome math in a situation such as this.
If China is cooking its numbers where is your PROOF!

WHAT ABOUT JAPAN?

WHAT ABOUT TAIWAN?

The United States could be TAIWAN or JAPAN, but Trump failed to take the same actions as those countries did back in January!

The average Epidemiologist have never said you cannot contain or stop this.

Bill Gates has done more work than most people on these types of diseases and he says 6 to 10 weeks to break this. Then there is the risk of 2nd and 3rd waves, but that those are not for certain. It may be possible to contain any new outbreaks over the next couple of years.

Then there is the development of the Vaccine. But most epidemiologists believe coronavirus will be contained and burned out by the time the Vaccine is ready.

There's proof all over the web about China, FFS. They aren't reporting asymptomatic cases that test positive. That you don't know this boggles my mind.

And what about France, or Spain, or the UK or on and on and on. This is a global pandemic. Did Trump cause failure in Europe as well I wonder.

We should be this, we should be that. The cockup with the testing cost us, which everyone knows and, again, that isn't on Trump. All the Monday morning quarterbacking in the world doesn't change a thing on that whole thing.

And, again, as you seem to have a problem grasping the simple fact that this isn't my opinion but the opinion of epidemiologists, the people that actually know did know and called exactly what was going to happen here.
As Truman said, the BUCK STOPS HERE! Trump's had nearly four years. Americans don't like this situation. Trump will be let go.

As for China, you can't hide the results of what this virus does, because growth in infections and deaths from it is exponential. So unless you can show some unexplained outbreak of death in any part of China right now, you GOT NOTHING!

France, Spain and the UK failed. We want the U.S. President to DO what is needed to be done to protect the population. Its what TAIWAN and JAPAN did. Its what TRUMP could have done and should have done, but FAILED to do.

Trump has had 3 years to make defending the country from a pandemic a priority as well as ensuring that we had the best testing capabilities in the world. But he FAILED to do that. He thought it was more important to give the richest 10% Trillions of dollars in tax cuts. That money could have been used to prepare and prevent this disaster from happening!

Sorry, but your twisting or fabricating what epidemiologist have said. Most epidemiologist believe these disasters can be prevented and if they are not, they can eventually be contained.

LOOK AT TAIWAN AND JAPAN! Yep, no answer for that. Cold hard facts.
"The Buck Stops Here" belonged to Truman but he didn't really mean it. Truman's incompetence, indecision and timid administration led to the quagmire that took the lives of over 50,000 Americans in the Korean conflict but like all democrats he had the support of the media. Republicans historically do not get a fair treatment from pop-culture historians.
It was 36,500 lives and thanks to Truman's efforts, a Communist invasion was defeated and South Korea has developed into strong and prosperous democracy.
 

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Epidemiologists have been saying since January this wouldn't be contained due to its symptomology. We likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of cases here before we knew it and this was over before it really began. At the time we had only 5 cases here and yet epidemiologists knew this was going to blow up on a global level.

Blame Trump all day and twice on Sundays if it makes you happy. The facts are that this was not going to be stopped, and scientists knew it once they knew what they were dealing with.

What we're dealing with now is exactly what they said was going to happen and the measures in place are there only to try to keep the hospital systems from being swamped, not to 'stop this' or anything else.

You cannot stop it, you can only slow it and it's been that way since Minute 1. It's math, it's always been math and the math is proving itself out.
Ok, what about China, Japan and Taiwan. Its already contained in those countries. New reports today say that Italy will have contained the virus by June 1. You can speculate all you want to about the real figure for infections, but you'll never know. But it is a fact that we have what we would call containment in China, Japan and Taiwan.

Trump FAILED and Japan shows that. Had Trump shut the borders and international travel back in January, we would be enjoying the same situation that Taiwan and Japan have been. That's a FACT! The theory that the Pathogen can't be stopped gets has plenty of holes in it as China, Taiwan and Japan demonstrate. IT WAS NEVER A FACT!

Again, China, Japan and Taiwan. Let the facts from those country's sink in.

China, Japan and Taiwan have stopped it. Look at the figures and look at the math.
You have NO idea what is happening in China. STUPID people think Communists would EVER allow any news detrimental to the Party out.
Great, neither do you.
 

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Epidemiologists have been saying since January this wouldn't be contained due to its symptomology. We likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of cases here before we knew it and this was over before it really began. At the time we had only 5 cases here and yet epidemiologists knew this was going to blow up on a global level.

Blame Trump all day and twice on Sundays if it makes you happy. The facts are that this was not going to be stopped, and scientists knew it once they knew what they were dealing with.

What we're dealing with now is exactly what they said was going to happen and the measures in place are there only to try to keep the hospital systems from being swamped, not to 'stop this' or anything else.

You cannot stop it, you can only slow it and it's been that way since Minute 1. It's math, it's always been math and the math is proving itself out.
Ok, what about China, Japan and Taiwan. Its already contained in those countries. New reports today say that Italy will have contained the virus by June 1. You can speculate all you want to about the real figure for infections, but you'll never know. But it is a fact that we have what we would call containment in China, Japan and Taiwan.

Trump FAILED and Japan shows that. Had Trump shut the borders and international travel back in January, we would be enjoying the same situation that Taiwan and Japan have been. That's a FACT! The theory that the Pathogen can't be stopped gets has plenty of holes in it as China, Taiwan and Japan demonstrate. IT WAS NEVER A FACT!

Again, China, Japan and Taiwan. Let the facts from those country's sink in.

China, Japan and Taiwan have stopped it. Look at the figures and look at the math.
Says who, nimrod? Chinese State-Run media?
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A vindictive POTUS who ignores the moral values in the Mission Statement, i.e. The Preamble to COTUS, who has violated his oath to support COTUS in words and acts, is unworthy of the office of trust. President Trump has dishonored the office he has had the privilege of this high office, as have the Senators who failed to remove him when the opportunity was there.

Examples in evidence:


"While the coronavirus spreads across the nation with no regards to state borders, the nation's governors are taking wildly different approaches to tackling the disease, resulting in a patchwork national map that undermines our ability to stop COVID-19 effectively. Coupled with the disastrous leadership of a president more interested in retaliating against his perceived enemies than employing his powers for good, the fractured response to coronavirus reveals how much has to be healed in our nation's system. It also sets in motion an inevitable showdown between Trump and those state leaders who are taking coronavirus seriously, a divide that is only going to get worse given Trump's toxic tendency to blame others for his own shortcomings"


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sharpened her criticism of President Trump’s early dismissal of the coronavirus, saying the delay cost American lives.

“His denial at the beginning was deadly,” said Pelosi to open her interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper.

“His delaying of getting equipment — it continues — his delaying of getting equipment to where it is needed is deadly, and now I think the best thing is to prevent more loss of life rather than open things up because we just don’t know. We have to have testing, testing, testing — that’s what we said from the start before we can evaluate the nature of it in some of these other regions as well.”


  • PBS NewsHour reporter Yamiche Alcindor confronted President Donald Trump with his own statements during the daily coronavirus taskforce briefing on Sunday as US coronavirus cases rose to nearly 140,000.
  • In response, Trump snapped at Alcindor to "be nice" and not "be threatening."
  • The president continued berating Alcindor as she pressed on and tried to redirect his attention to her question about earlier statements he made to Fox News host Sean Hannity about the shortage in medical equipment as states battle the novel coronavirus.
  • "When journalists get up and ask questions that are so threatening—" Trump began. Alcindor hit back: "I was quoting you directly from your interview with Sean Hannity."
Pelosi is a pig. THAT is who should be removed from office. Worst speaker ever. That is what happens when a party picks for divirsity over competence.
 

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The litany of policy errors, uninformed decisions, marginalization of medical expert advice, misinformation, failures to act proactively, and general lack of preparation is shocking.

Any other prez, were he not the leader of a cult like Trump, would have a favorable opinion poll rating below 30%.
"I take no responsibility"
 

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Epidemiologists have been saying since January this wouldn't be contained due to its symptomology. We likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of cases here before we knew it and this was over before it really began. At the time we had only 5 cases here and yet epidemiologists knew this was going to blow up on a global level.

Blame Trump all day and twice on Sundays if it makes you happy. The facts are that this was not going to be stopped, and scientists knew it once they knew what they were dealing with.

What we're dealing with now is exactly what they said was going to happen and the measures in place are there only to try to keep the hospital systems from being swamped, not to 'stop this' or anything else.

You cannot stop it, you can only slow it and it's been that way since Minute 1. It's math, it's always been math and the math is proving itself out.
Ok, what about China, Japan and Taiwan. Its already contained in those countries. New reports today say that Italy will have contained the virus by June 1. You can speculate all you want to about the real figure for infections, but you'll never know. But it is a fact that we have what we would call containment in China, Japan and Taiwan.

Trump FAILED and Japan shows that. Had Trump shut the borders and international travel back in January, we would be enjoying the same situation that Taiwan and Japan have been. That's a FACT! The theory that the Pathogen can't be stopped gets has plenty of holes in it as China, Taiwan and Japan demonstrate. IT WAS NEVER A FACT!

Again, China, Japan and Taiwan. Let the facts from those country's sink in.

China, Japan and Taiwan have stopped it. Look at the figures and look at the math.
China is cooking its numbers.

The cockup with the testing here cost us weeks and that isn't on Trump, as much as everyone would like to make it so.

All countries will peak and fall off, including ours. Epidemiologists are now saying that here this will happen Mid to late April here, with outbreaks flaring here and there thereafter as people pop out of their hidey-holes and the virus does what it does. And that's going to happen with full awareness everywhere. You cannot stop this. Period.

The point stands, and that point is that epidemiologists in this country called this a mile out based on the symptomology and they have been dead nuts on the screws.

Blame Trump. Honestly, I don't care. The facts don't jibe with that version of events. He hasn't been perfect but you don't overcome math in a situation such as this.
If China is cooking its numbers where is your PROOF!

WHAT ABOUT JAPAN?

WHAT ABOUT TAIWAN?

The United States could be TAIWAN or JAPAN, but Trump failed to take the same actions as those countries did back in January!

The average Epidemiologist have never said you cannot contain or stop this.

Bill Gates has done more work than most people on these types of diseases and he says 6 to 10 weeks to break this. Then there is the risk of 2nd and 3rd waves, but that those are not for certain. It may be possible to contain any new outbreaks over the next couple of years.

Then there is the development of the Vaccine. But most epidemiologists believe coronavirus will be contained and burned out by the time the Vaccine is ready.

There's proof all over the web about China, FFS. They aren't reporting asymptomatic cases that test positive. That you don't know this boggles my mind.

And what about France, or Spain, or the UK or on and on and on. This is a global pandemic. Did Trump cause failure in Europe as well I wonder.

We should be this, we should be that. The cockup with the testing cost us, which everyone knows and, again, that isn't on Trump. All the Monday morning quarterbacking in the world doesn't change a thing on that whole thing.

And, again, as you seem to have a problem grasping the simple fact that this isn't my opinion but the opinion of epidemiologists, the people that actually know did know and called exactly what was going to happen here.
As Truman said, the BUCK STOPS HERE! Trump's had nearly four years. Americans don't like this situation. Trump will be let go.

As for China, you can't hide the results of what this virus does, because growth in infections and deaths from it is exponential. So unless you can show some unexplained outbreak of death in any part of China right now, you GOT NOTHING!

France, Spain and the UK failed. We want the U.S. President to DO what is needed to be done to protect the population. Its what TAIWAN and JAPAN did. Its what TRUMP could have done and should have done, but FAILED to do.

Trump has had 3 years to make defending the country from a pandemic a priority as well as ensuring that we had the best testing capabilities in the world. But he FAILED to do that. He thought it was more important to give the richest 10% Trillions of dollars in tax cuts. That money could have been used to prepare and prevent this disaster from happening!

Sorry, but your twisting or fabricating what epidemiologist have said. Most epidemiologist believe these disasters can be prevented and if they are not, they can eventually be contained.

LOOK AT TAIWAN AND JAPAN! Yep, no answer for that. Cold hard facts.

lol. you are simply ranting at this point. But hey, enjoy yourself.

I showed you a source and you discounted it. No facts are enough to overcome your personal viewpoints. I'm glad we established that.

And there are also reports of state media taking down reports of shipments in and out of crematoriums of urns by the thousands. I could link those also, but you've shown facts don't actually matter, so I'm not going to bother. Look it up if you actually care about the truth of what is happening there.

A media controlled completely by the state which has been lying about this from the jump and you are still giving the state the benefit of the doubt that what is being released is the truth, despite their previous lies and despite facts presented to the contrary. Aside from the fact that doing so supports your narrative, I honestly can't imagine why.
I'm trying to get your attention about JAPAN and TAIWAN, but you pretend they don't exist because the facts from there don't fit the narrative your pushing.

You showed a link about asymptomatic infections which is irrelevant to the point I was making.

Even if the crematoriums and urns are really evidence of a higher PAST DEATH COUNT, it does not change my point that China has contained this. The true death count from January-March and the reports of not counting asymptomatic people are not relevant to whether China has contained or defeated this wave of the virus as of TODAY!

China will start to open in up and April. I guess they will soon be dying by the thousands by the end of April based on your predictions. I don't think the Chinese government would plan to open things up if it would only release a massive wave of the virus again. But according to you, its GOING TO HAPPEN! You've labeled that a FACT. We're going to see if it is.
 

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